Team Whispers: Who should Spurs sign in January?

[MattPhilpott]

I know it’s 3/4 Years too late, but I’m aware Bernard has 6 months left on his deal. The guy is rapid and has such a low centre of gravity that he is almost glued to the floor.

Been very impressed by both him and Taison, I know he is much older though, could provide support for the creative role behind Eriksen and can also play out wide and utilise his pace! If we could get him cut-price or agree a deal for a free?

 

[allpaths]

I can't see us going back in for Zaha.

We need to focus on 3 signings
i) Eriksen backup/upgrade - Eriksen's fitness/form has affected us in November. We need to have options in addition to Lamela. Barkley is the one. If he is not coming, we need to get someone similar.

ii) Rose replacement - IMO, its going to be matter of when he leaves than if. Even if goes in summer, we need to buy a LB. IMO, buy Sessegnon in Jan & loan him back to Fulham till summer. Next season - Davies & Sessegnon duo will do for me.

iii) A striker - Llorente still has to get his PL game going. I would actively look for a striker option. WBA are shit but if Jay Rodriguez is available for reasonable fee, would go for him. He could play alongside Kane or by himself leading the line. Poch got the best of him in past as well. If not, may be a young European Striker with potential.

After the string of bad results recently, didnt poch and lloris say that spurs need a Zaha type that can beat his man one on one as a way to open up bus parkers?

Correct Trix. Zaha has a set clause in his contract from what I hear. I do not know what that clause is. Poch won’t give up on him, and my own personal opinion, is if we matched that clause, woujd Zaha come now? Not sure if he would join in summer, as Poch wants all his eggs agreed, or purchased now. If not water-tight for the summer. I am not aware if we can have such deals with EPL player, unless a loan back deal.

Thanks @Trix and @Hercules that's some much appreciated bit of info. My haunch is that Zaha's clause could be a relegation fee, so if Palace go down I think Zaha would be a certainty.

Zaha would be very servicable, but Richarlson is going to be a superstar imo, would be disappointed to miss out on him.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Cheers @Trix and @Hercules

It begins...

 

[MattPhilpott]

Interesting as well to see all the links to Jann-Fiete Arp not going away! The guy is a serious talent and admits his role model is Harry Kane (I know that’s been mentioned here?) I think given the opportunity to train and play with his idol I think would be very hard for him to turn down!

 

[daryl hannah]

After the string of bad results recently, didnt poch and lloris say that spurs need a Zaha type that can beat his man one on one as a way to open up bus parkers?


Thanks @Trix and @Hercules that's some much appreciated bit of info. My haunch is that Zaha's clause could be a relegation fee, so if Palace go down I think Zaha would be a certainty.

Zaha would be very servicable, but Richarlson is going to be a superstar imo, would be disappointed to miss out on him.

Poch has said we're he wants English players...between Richarlison and Zaha I would have thought Zaha to be the priority.

As for Palace, can't see them letting him go when they are where they are...loan back makes the most sense.

 

[MattPhilpott]

Poch has said we're he wants English players...between Richarlison and Zaha I would have thought Zaha to be the priority.

As for Palace, can't see them letting him go when they are where they are...loan back makes the most sense.

Out of interest does Zaha still count as homegrown and English despite his representation for the Ivory Coast? I wasn’t sure?

 

[tiger666]

Out of interest does Zaha still count as homegrown and English despite his representation for the Ivory Coast? I wasn’t sure?

All that matters is the club they were with before turning 21. He spent 3 years at a club in England before his 21st birthday so will always be classed as homegrown in England.

 

[daryl hannah]

Out of interest does Zaha still count as homegrown and English despite his representation for the Ivory Coast? I wasn’t sure?

I would have thought so. It's not about the national teams players play for - look at Eric Dier - doesn't count as homegrown as he wasn't affiliated with English FA for 3 years before he was 21.

 

[cider spurs]

I understand the wanting of Zaha. I too am in this camp.

Now, I know I can be a lazy fecker at times (the missus tells me so and she's never wrong) so I haven't researched the chances created / big chances or whatever it is being called this week.

Point being it appears some, myself included are calling for pace, hence the admiring glances toward Zaha.

Did we not have Townsend?, was he not pacy and could play of either foot?. Why did we let him go last summer if we feel pace is so important now?.

Now, without answering my own question I know Townsend was pretty dire in the shooting and decision making elements of his game, but he was direct and rapid.

A quick look and I see Zaha in 125 Prem games has assisted 16 goals and scored 20.

Townsend in 128 Prem games has assisted 12 goals and scored 16.

What's the big difference then, is it purely based on chances created by Zaha that makes him so far more superior to some?, is it because he plays for Palace and some think he'll improve immensely under Poch?.

I recall many happy for Townsend to leave, but are we maybe pursuing another pacy type with a not too disimilar end product?.

Like I said, I'm all for Zaha, but I'm still not 100% sold, not even sure why I want him. Am I blinded by the tricks and flicks, looks great, but means sweet FA if no end product.

Maybe somebody could search for chances created as a comparison for the pair of them regarding Prem games only. Does Zaha win this hands down? .

 

[Trix]

I understand the wanting of Zaha. I too am in this camp.

Now, I know I can be a lazy fecker at times (the missus tells me so and she's never wrong) so I haven't researched the chances created / big chances or whatever it is being called this week.

Point being it appears some, myself included are calling for pace, hence the admiring glances toward Zaha.

Did we not have Townsend?, was he not pacy and could play of either foot?. Why did we let him go last summer if we feel pace is so important now?.

Now, without answering my own question I know Townsend was pretty dire in the shooting and decision making elements of his game, but he was direct and rapid.

A quick look and I see Zaha in 125 Prem games has assisted 16 goals and scored 20.

Townsend in 128 Prem games has assisted 12 goals and scored 16.

What's the big difference then, is it purely based on chances created by Zaha that makes him so far more superior to some?, is it because he plays for Palace and some think he'll improve immensely under Poch?.

I recall many happy for Townsend to leave, but are we maybe pursuing another pacy type with a not too disimilar end product?.

Like I said, I'm all for Zaha, but I'm still not 100% sold, not even sure why I want him. Am I blinded by the tricks and flicks, looks great, but means sweet FA if no end product.

Maybe somebody could search for chances created as a comparison for the pair of them regarding Prem games only. Does Zaha win this hands down? .

Townsend's biggest problem was himself.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

If it was ether or, and seeing as we have had positive ITK on both, i would much rather we get Pulisic then Zaha as i think he has larger potential, is more marketable and significantly younger. I didnt realise Zaha is already 25, Pulisic being only 19 just makes so much more sense to me.

 

[tiger666]

Maybe somebody could search for chances created as a comparison for the pair of them regarding Prem games only. Does Zaha win this hands down? .

 

[thinktank]

I understand the wanting of Zaha. I too am in this camp.

Now, I know I can be a lazy fecker at times (the missus tells me so and she's never wrong) so I haven't researched the chances created / big chances or whatever it is being called this week.

Point being it appears some, myself included are calling for pace, hence the admiring glances toward Zaha.

Did we not have Townsend?, was he not pacy and could play of either foot?. Why did we let him go last summer if we feel pace is so important now?.

Now, without answering my own question I know Townsend was pretty dire in the shooting and decision making elements of his game, but he was direct and rapid.

A quick look and I see Zaha in 125 Prem games has assisted 16 goals and scored 20.

Townsend in 128 Prem games has assisted 12 goals and scored 16.

What's the big difference then, is it purely based on chances created by Zaha that makes him so far more superior to some?, is it because he plays for Palace and some think he'll improve immensely under Poch?.

I recall many happy for Townsend to leave, but are we maybe pursuing another pacy type with a not too disimilar end product?.

Like I said, I'm all for Zaha, but I'm still not 100% sold, not even sure why I want him. Am I blinded by the tricks and flicks, looks great, but means sweet FA if no end product.

Maybe somebody could search for chances created as a comparison for the pair of them regarding Prem games only. Does Zaha win this hands down? .

If you can't follow poch's instructions, what use are you to him?

 

[allpaths]

Poch has said we're he wants English players...between Richarlison and Zaha I would have thought Zaha to be the priority.

As for Palace, can't see them letting him go when they are where they are...loan back makes the most sense.

Understand but I just fancy Richarlson more and think when it comes down making choices on individuals it shouldnt come down to nationality or home grown status, but the quality of player.

And I doubt we'd be able to do any business in january beside a buy and loan back deal for sessognon if we are lucky.

 

[dagraham]

If it was ether or, and seeing as we have had positive ITK on both, i would much rather we get Pulisic then Zaha as i think he has larger potential, is more marketable and significantly younger. I didnt realise Zaha is already 25, Pulisic being only 19 just makes so much more sense to me.

Where is the ITK on Pulisic? He’s looked mustard every time I’ve seen him.

 

[cider spurs]

@tiger666

Thanks mate.

I'll have to factor in the fact of new club and settling in scenario regarding Townsend last season.

So he beats Zaha in both key passes and chances created last season, and the Prem assists and goals are not too disimilar career wise.

Makes it alot more difficult to see the appeal, but I can see he has something, but is it enough.

Above some have said Townsend couldn't follow instructions, so on that basis Zaha is marginally better in some elements and worse in others and he's following the supposed plan of his manager?.

I'll be honest if the chance arose Pulisic would be my first choice also.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

@tiger666

Thanks mate.

I'll have to factor in the fact of new club and settling in scenario regarding Townsend last season.

So he beats Zaha in both key passes and chances created last season, and the Prem assists and goals are not too disimilar career wise.

Makes it alot more difficult to see the appeal, but I can see he has something, but is it enough.

Above some have said Townsend couldn't follow instructions, so on that basis Zaha is marginally better in some elements and worse in others and he's following the supposed plan of his manager?.

I'll be honest if the chance arose Pulisic would be my first choice also.

Last time I checked Zaha was only behind Hazard in successful 'take-ons' and also the most fouled player in the league. I think that gives you a taste of what he does, he beats players.

It's his first touch and strength which put him on another level to the likes of Townsend.

 

[allpaths]

Last time I checked Zaha was only behind Hazard in successful 'take-ons' and also the most fouled player in the league. I think that gives you a taste of what he does, he beats players.

It's his first touch and strength which put him on another level to the likes of Townsend.

It's not fair comparing Zaha and Townsend together, as teams double up and try to restrict Zaha's time and space. While teams arent afraid of Townsend because he is extremely wasteful and not as strong one v one.

 

[cider spurs]

Last time I checked Zaha was only behind Hazard in successful 'take-ons' and also the most fouled player in the league. I think that gives you a taste of what he does, he beats players.

It's his first touch and strength which put him on another level to the likes of Townsend.

That's all good. Certainly need a player to stretch teams, but there has to be an end product.

Like I said I'm not opposed to us signing him, he could be a monster for us, but I'm a greedy fecker, I want end product not just a speed merchant for the sake of it.

I totally understand his stretching the opposition will allow for space elsewhere to be exploited, but I want this and more.

 

[cider spurs]

It's not fair comparing Zaha and Townsend together, as teams double up and try to restrict Zaha's time and space. While teams arent afraid of Townsend because he is extremely wasteful and not as strong one v one.

Its not fair that I keep getting cat shit on my front lawn and I don't own a cat.















I get your point though.