The beginning of the end...

[robertgoulet]

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

 

[sausage]

What happened with Jol? first manager I can remember going was Harry

Story was that apparently he went speaking to Newcastle behind the scenes, Levy bought him a Porsche and he was allegedly a ungrateful about it and sold it on almost straight away, which pissed off plenty of people at the club.

@KETTERING SPUR - it's a fact that was confirmed by Jol, so no idea why you are disagreeing with reality.

 

[robertgoulet]

Feel like Poch is suffering a bit of burn out, I don't think he needs to walk away, I reckon a few honest conversations from Levy and the players will get him to emotionally overcome his current melancholy. This season won't take it's toll like the last.

Poch 1 yr sabbatical after winning the NLD, Mourihno comes in and guides the team to a top 4 and FA Cup while he's out. Poch comes back invigorated and we win the CL/PL title double next season.

 

[SpursSince1980]

If Poch does walk away, I'm not sure it'll have much to do with Levy. As he's been backed.

That said, I really have a hard time seeing him throw in the towel. Seems a really strange thing to do at this stage. There's not a great deal of logic to him wanting to go. Only would make sense if it was for a new challenge (nothing open at the minute), or he's burnt out and needs a break. The latter I can relate to... I'd imagine we all can. It's a pressure cooker job, and high on stress. So, unless he's really down in the dumps and can't take another day in the office, then it's really hard to understand why he'd even consider leaving.

 

[yankspurs]

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Thanks for the opportunity.

 

[markiespurs]

If Poch does walk away, I'm not sure it'll have much to do with Levy. As he's been backed.

That said, I really have a hard time seeing him throw in the towel. Seems a really strange thing to do at this stage. There's not a great deal of logic to him wanting to go. Only would make sense if it was for a new challenge (nothing open at the minute), or he's burnt out and needs a break. The latter I can relate to... I'd imagine we all can. It's a pressure cooker job, and high on stress. So, unless he's really down in the dumps and can't take another day in the office, then it's really hard to understand why he'd even consider leaving.

Poch being burnt out would make a lot of sense, especially given how his character has changed over the last 8 or 9 months.

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

This thread = this scene
Valenciayid = Dwight

 

[kthwlsn]

Story was that apparently he went speaking to Newcastle behind the scenes, Levy bought him a Porsche and he was allegedly a ungrateful about it and sold it on almost straight away, which pissed off plenty of people at the club.

@KETTERING SPUR - it's a fact that was confirmed by Jol, so no idea why you are disagreeing with reality.

An actual Porsche or whoever that era’s version of Kia Havertz was?

 

[ReadieSpur]

It feels like a narrative is building around this and it's slightly concerning. I fear that a loss at the weekend will feed it and it will become self fulfilling.

 

[Spursfan1414]

There's a thousand completely non-Tottenham reasons why Poch might not be right at the moment, worth remembering that he has a life outside of football and just like any other person his performance at work could be affected by it.

 

[markiespurs]

Feel like Poch is suffering a bit of burn out, I don't think he needs to walk away, I reckon a few honest conversations from Levy and the players will get him to emotionally overcome his current melancholy. This season won't take it's toll like the last.

Not so sure it’s as simple as a few honest conversations from Levy and the players, hope it is though.

If it is burnout, then unfortunately I fear that time away from the pressures and stresses of the game is the only long term solution.

 

[louisg]

Story was that apparently he went speaking to Newcastle behind the scenes, Levy bought him a Porsche and he was allegedly a ungrateful about it and sold it on almost straight away, which pissed off plenty of people at the club.

@KETTERING SPUR - it's a fact that was confirmed by Jol, so no idea why you are disagreeing with reality.

He sold the Porsche as he already had the exact same one.

 

[markiespurs]

He sold the Porsche as he already had the exact same one.

Bloody annoying that is when someone gives you a Porsche and you already have the exact same one

 

[KingKay]

I personally think this is all blown out of proportion and he wont be going anywhere this season. The negativity from the fanbase and on these forums is dripping through into the press and will only make matters worse

Always the way with a certain section of our fanbase unfortunately.

 

[Coco-1101]

Lpool finished in Pl = 4th
Lost CL final

Next TW signed some players
Finish Second and Won CL

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Tottenham finished in Pl = 4th
Lost CL final

Next TW signed some players

 

[JCRD]

I think it needs someone to walk into the training ground and knock some sense into EVERYONE... we all have highs and lows into a long tenure in a job etc and we all have arguments but sometimes youre so involved that youre not thinking objectively or perhaps even clearly... and then you end up feeling fed up

He aint going to leave but whatever is up with everyone needs fucking sorting out

 

[HildoSpur]

Really don't like how this is building.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

To note:

1) Walker is strangely the subject of odd romanticism. He name was and still is regularly associated with the word 'brainfart', and I'm not buying the 'substantial downgrade' bit.
Since 2013/14 until he left, he had 10 PL assists and 2 goals in 107 PL games.
From 2016/17 until he left, Trippier had 13 PL assists and 1 goal in 63 games.
Trippier had a "bad" season last season, but there's a reason he nabbed Walker's RB spot for the national team.
2) I don't see how that's on topic with the suggestion that we've regressed as a team.

That's before you take into account that we've added a lot of quality in the last few years. It's exactly as Poch explained, that we started waiting for good players rather than signing any old plodder.

I can't agree with any implication that signings like Son, Sanchez, NDombele, Moura and Lo Celso (leaving Sissoko out, as unsure whether he's a good example) are somehow a symbol of squad regression. Beyond Kyle Walker, we've pretty much only sold either plodders or, unfortunately, crocked players.

Trippier did not take Walkers place in the national team. We played 3 at the back when Southgate took over. Walker right side CB Trippier right wing back, which is his best position. Great crosser of a ball, apart from last season when he was either injured or crap. Trip back in the squad today. If he plays full back in a 4 he will be exposed by top quality wide players. Don’tthink He will meet any from Bulgaria and Kosovo.

 

[Cambridge Spur]

I really hope this isn’t true. I want Pochettino to pull through this spell and get us back playing how we know we can. I’m dreading tomorrow’s press conference though.....”So Poch are you leaving?” “Rumour, I don’t discuss rumour”

 

[Stamford]

I really hope this isn’t true. I want Pochettino to pull through this spell and get us back playing how we know we can. I’m dreading tomorrow’s press conference though.....”So Poch are you leaving?” “Rumour, I don’t discuss rumour”

Be great if for once he cut the riddles, shut it down, unified the fan base and then we smash the scum. Now isn't the time for his usual press conferences.