Bus-Conductor
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Dawson needs to run in the direction of QPR.
The case for Tim Sherwood
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Dawson needs to run in the direction of QPR.
SpurSince57
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Like Ramos, you mean? Or Fruitini? They worked out really well, didn't they?
According to AVB's PR man Jason Burt's latest Torygraph article (I do hope you weren't one of those complaining about Harry's media pals), we haven't paid the Bearded Wonder any compensation and he's currently still receiving his regular salary. That suggests we didn't fire him, as such, and that he's done a Fruitini—the difference being that this time we've got no Jol in the wings. Nor do we have a Harry willing to drop everything and join us just so long as long as the price is right.
I'm totally neutral as regards Sherwood, and so should everyone else be. People like you need to keep their minds open and their mouths shut (or at least, their fingers away from the keyboard).
Blake Griffin
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DFF
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Well with that 12 inch dildo stuck up his arse...I imagine he shall.
Francis Gibbs
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So because we pursued managers with top reputations and they didn't pan out means we should stop trying? ..... ffs I swear 'supporters' like you would simply be happy with mediocrity just to try and prove some twisted point.
You know fuck all about the details of AVBs severance deal it's just your opinion so
how about you keep your mouth shut or your hands away from the keyboard and simply ignore my 'opinion' if you don't like it.
SpurSince57
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[quote="Francis Gibbs, post: 3763918, member: 22805"]So because we pursued managers with top reputations and they didn't pan out means we should stop trying? ..... ffs I swear 'supporters' like you would simply be happy with mediocrity just to try and prove some twisted point.
You know fuck all about the details of AVBs severance deal it's just your opinion so
how about you keep your mouth shout or your hands away from the keyboard and simply ignore my 'opinion' if you don't like it.[/quote]
Aww, paw ickle Fwances… Boofuckinghoo. Blubblubblub.
No, of course we shouldn't stop trying. Where did I suggest that? Are you trying to prove some twisted point? Or are you just a little lacking in the brains department?
You, on the other hand, give every impression that you wouldn't know if someone was up you with an armful of chairs. And no, I don't know the details of the Bearded Wonder's severance deal, for the simple reason that according to his media mouthpiece he doesn't appear to have one, as yet. I wasn't offering an opinion, just pointing out a fact, as expressed by AVB's media pal.
You know fuck all about the details of AVBs severance deal it's just your opinion so
how about you keep your mouth shout or your hands away from the keyboard and simply ignore my 'opinion' if you don't like it.[/quote]
Aww, paw ickle Fwances… Boofuckinghoo. Blubblubblub.
No, of course we shouldn't stop trying. Where did I suggest that? Are you trying to prove some twisted point? Or are you just a little lacking in the brains department?
You, on the other hand, give every impression that you wouldn't know if someone was up you with an armful of chairs. And no, I don't know the details of the Bearded Wonder's severance deal, for the simple reason that according to his media mouthpiece he doesn't appear to have one, as yet. I wasn't offering an opinion, just pointing out a fact, as expressed by AVB's media pal.
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Francis Gibbs
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Aww, paw ickle Fwances… Boofuckinghoo. Blubblubblub
No, of course we shouldn't stop trying, dopey.
You, on the other hand, give every impression that you wouldn't know if someone was up you with an armful of chairs. And no, I don't know the details of the Bearded Wonder's severance deal, for the simple reason that according to his media mouthpiece he doesn't appear to have one, as yet. I wasn't offering an opinion, just pointing out a fact.[/quote]
lol so basically you've just chatted shit ... thanks for confirming what I already know.
Sad little keyboard warriors like you need to take a little break and get our more
Mr Pink
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We'll have a bloody good idea in about 12 hours time BC in terms of his approach/philosophy.
I'm nervous as hell.
0-Tibsy-0
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I'm hoping that we dont have more of a clue of Sherwoods approach in 12 hours as I'm hoping he will have allowed himself to be majorly influenced by Chris Ramsey....
MikeCOYS
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By progressive, I've interpreted as playing smart football. Making the right decision for every pass, move, cross etc.
You're right, he's not perfectly clear, nor that he'll reveal his tactics before facing the Saints.
What we played before under AVB wasn't progressive football. AVB played defensive football. The team he set out is very defensive minded - hence the incredible possession and long range shots stats.
By what the fan wants, I think you're over-thinking it a slight. The fan wants effective (fast tempo) football, which leads to creating better opportunities to score goals, which ultimately means progressive football. Dull side-ways and backward passing football under AVB is a very regressive approach.
The goal is to play progressive football. But the tactics and formations you've mentioned is the means for achieving that goal.
In the end of the day, I for one am happy with his approach. He seems like he knows where the problem lies, and is trying to address that - whether he can, is another matter. AVB on the other hand, ignores all the signs that the team is not performing under his tactics, but is too stubborn to change it.
I accept and understand your opinion, but personally, I think he's talking about the overall image.
Strikeb4ck
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Agreed, as long as Ramsey takes control of the more tactical elements of managing, then I'm not worried, he has nothing but excellent reviews.
dondo
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We wouldn't have lost against west ham if he had played. Daws would have dealt with fat sams route 1 football better than vlad or capoue
Kirito
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If we get spanked against Southampton today then the Sherwood lovers are going to look silly. If we win then it will just be the players carrying on their great away form (Joint 1st in league)
He had his home test and failed. His resit is against WBA.
He had his home test and failed. His resit is against WBA.
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And therein lies the one of the biggest parts of the problem.
Losing at home to West ham? = Failure, we don't want him.
Win at Southampton? = Get him in, he could do well, I told you so.
Lost/Draw at home to WBA? = Failure, we don't want him.
This is applicable to anyone, not just Sherwood. We can't see further than the end of our dicks sometimes.
Which is good news for me, coz I is hung 'innit? Bad news for you lot aka 'The Peasantry'
tototoner
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I don't give give a shit about this but he is being slated on twitter over it
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/5339118/Stand-in-Spurs-boss-Tim-Sherwood-admits-hes-a-Gooner.html
TOTTENHAM’S stand-in boss Tim Sherwood has admitted he is a GOONER.
He said: “I’m an Arsenal fan as a kid. My dad still goes to the Emirates every week."
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/5339118/Stand-in-Spurs-boss-Tim-Sherwood-admits-hes-a-Gooner.html
TOTTENHAM’S stand-in boss Tim Sherwood has admitted he is a GOONER.
He said: “I’m an Arsenal fan as a kid. My dad still goes to the Emirates every week."
mawspurs
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Source: Premier League Owl
For those Tottenham fans who do not want to see Tim Sherwood managing their side, even on an interim basis, there are plenty of reasons to justify their position: Sherwood is just an ex-player with no management experience, no career wins, and nothing on his CV which validates his suitability to lead a club of Spurs’ size. That he is reportedly an Arsenal fan is a side-issue, and not overly relevant, but that will doubtless be one of the additional stones thrown.
Beyond all of that, though, the most troubling issue with Sherwood is his relationship with the media.
As events at White Hart Lane have occurred over the past six-months, it’s become increasingly clear that someone within the organisation has been briefing the press and has been playing political games within the club. Information from a very well-informed source has continually found its way into the newspapers, and at times that’s had an extremely destabilising effect on the club as a whole. ‘Exclusives’ about player mutinies, about Andre Villas-Boas, about transfer-targets, about relations between the chairman and the manager…some of those articles have been fabricated, obviously, but a lot of those stories have been leaked.
Whilst the libel laws prevent me from making an outright accusation, it should be fairly obvious who the rat is. Who’s benefited most from Villas-Boas’ departure? Who now seems to have an awful lot of support from journalists who were previously very hostile towards everything to do with Tottenham?
Either Tim Sherwood has been talking out of school, or this is just one huge, unlikely coincidence.
Tottenham will probably lose today, but, on the basis that Southampton are having some form difficulties of their own, they might come away from St Mary’s with a point or better – either way though, nothing which happens this afternoon should disguise the reality that Sherwood is a liability, and someone who simply cannot be trusted to manage a Premier League club at this stage of his career.
Working on the basis that he is, in fact, in possession of Neil Ashton’s phone-number, and he does enjoy his fair share of politicking, does anybody really believe that the flow of information that he’s presumably been providing will stop if he’s given long-term managerial responsibilities?
Let’s be realistic: once somebody is in the media’s pocket, they never really leave.
If there’s a disagreement in training, a problem at board-level, or an issue with a player, the logical assumption should be that, with Sherwood in charge, the usual ambulance-chasers in the press will get to know about it – and, that’s just not an acceptable situation in the modern day Premier League.
I’ve heard it said that Tim Sherwood deserves a chance, and that he should be given the opportunity to prove himself as a manager.
“Pep Guardiola was successful without experience! So was Tito Villanova!”
They were, yes, but they were also loyal to their employers and they were managers who could be trusted not to put their own best interests ahead of the team’s – and that’s something which Sherwood probably needs to learn.
Ex-players always believe that they’re entitled to ‘have a go’ at management, and invariably there’s someone willing to give them a job – but a club like Tottenham, at which millions of pounds are continually at stake, are not in a position to let someone ‘play manager’ for a bit on the off-chance that it might work out.
Officially, this is someone whose personality and professionalism comes with a question-mark. But, more realistically, Sherwood is probably an overly-ambitious snake-in-the-grass who Daniel Levy would do well to remove before much longer.
For those Tottenham fans who do not want to see Tim Sherwood managing their side, even on an interim basis, there are plenty of reasons to justify their position: Sherwood is just an ex-player with no management experience, no career wins, and nothing on his CV which validates his suitability to lead a club of Spurs’ size. That he is reportedly an Arsenal fan is a side-issue, and not overly relevant, but that will doubtless be one of the additional stones thrown.
Beyond all of that, though, the most troubling issue with Sherwood is his relationship with the media.
As events at White Hart Lane have occurred over the past six-months, it’s become increasingly clear that someone within the organisation has been briefing the press and has been playing political games within the club. Information from a very well-informed source has continually found its way into the newspapers, and at times that’s had an extremely destabilising effect on the club as a whole. ‘Exclusives’ about player mutinies, about Andre Villas-Boas, about transfer-targets, about relations between the chairman and the manager…some of those articles have been fabricated, obviously, but a lot of those stories have been leaked.
Whilst the libel laws prevent me from making an outright accusation, it should be fairly obvious who the rat is. Who’s benefited most from Villas-Boas’ departure? Who now seems to have an awful lot of support from journalists who were previously very hostile towards everything to do with Tottenham?
Either Tim Sherwood has been talking out of school, or this is just one huge, unlikely coincidence.
Tottenham will probably lose today, but, on the basis that Southampton are having some form difficulties of their own, they might come away from St Mary’s with a point or better – either way though, nothing which happens this afternoon should disguise the reality that Sherwood is a liability, and someone who simply cannot be trusted to manage a Premier League club at this stage of his career.
Working on the basis that he is, in fact, in possession of Neil Ashton’s phone-number, and he does enjoy his fair share of politicking, does anybody really believe that the flow of information that he’s presumably been providing will stop if he’s given long-term managerial responsibilities?
Let’s be realistic: once somebody is in the media’s pocket, they never really leave.
If there’s a disagreement in training, a problem at board-level, or an issue with a player, the logical assumption should be that, with Sherwood in charge, the usual ambulance-chasers in the press will get to know about it – and, that’s just not an acceptable situation in the modern day Premier League.
I’ve heard it said that Tim Sherwood deserves a chance, and that he should be given the opportunity to prove himself as a manager.
“Pep Guardiola was successful without experience! So was Tito Villanova!”
They were, yes, but they were also loyal to their employers and they were managers who could be trusted not to put their own best interests ahead of the team’s – and that’s something which Sherwood probably needs to learn.
Ex-players always believe that they’re entitled to ‘have a go’ at management, and invariably there’s someone willing to give them a job – but a club like Tottenham, at which millions of pounds are continually at stake, are not in a position to let someone ‘play manager’ for a bit on the off-chance that it might work out.
Officially, this is someone whose personality and professionalism comes with a question-mark. But, more realistically, Sherwood is probably an overly-ambitious snake-in-the-grass who Daniel Levy would do well to remove before much longer.
