The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 10th June

[dondo]

So, Man U strengthens, while we let an asset go for £40M less?

Who is the winner here?

Who said anything about 40m less ?

 

[spurfetto]

I do agree with this narrative and see where it’s coming from however we all need to just calm down a little. It’s still early in the window, we have clearly already shown ambition we never have before giving Kane, Eriksen, Alli and Poch deals over and above our wage structure. We can’t instantly blow money on new players as although the new stadium leads to greater future income that income isn’t there yet. 3 years of champs league football money and TV money = stable enough to hand out big new deals. By all means positive steps being taken. Let’s see who the new signing is that is imminent according to GF and see what the building up leads to that Val has alluded to thanks for all the Info Herc, love how involved you are man!

Couldn't agree more mate ?

 

[Hercules]

We have circa 150m to spend! That is NOT reliant on sales!
Our net spend we want to be very favourable by close of window!!!...

 

[hellava_tough]

Can't deny that there are startling similarities between this Toby fiasco and the 'things have changed' narrative this summer, and the Walker to City deal last summer.

Hope it's different but clear parallels already appearing.

To be fair, we've absolutely smashed our wage structure in recent days

That's got to be considered 'change'

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Who said anything about 40m less ?

If we hold him until next summer - he goes for £25M....

 

[Norvern Munkey]

Toby going to United can be the only realistic option and people can be disappointed at it happening at the same time

They aren’t mutually exclusive, it’s a shit situation.

They arent mutually exclusive i agree but who knows in 6 months toby might have moved for 50 mill, got his big payday for daddy and be unfortunately sidelined injured at united rather than with us.... that would stop it being a shit situation and make it an ironically satisfying situation.

 

[Lighty64]

Can't deny that there are startling similarities between this Toby fiasco and the 'things have changed' narrative this summer, and the Walker to City deal last summer.

Hope it's different but clear parallels already appearing.

no because at the time signings weren't as inflated, and Walker had a longer contract, but wasn't truly happy. Poch wants a happy squad, 1 bad apple, whinger in the ranks can cause disruption. if your not on board please jump ship and swim elsewhere, because a happy squad can help build confidence

 

[klynnspur2]

Evening First time poster.
Fuck me it's like a funny farm in here ?
Got to sell him before WC cos it's more than poss that this injury could hit again and let's face it we'd all piss ourselves laughing at the yanited fans we all know!!! Glass half full peeps ?

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

We have circa 150m to spend! That is NOT reliant on sales!
Our net spend we want to be very favourable by close of window!!!...

I think this gets confusing to people. It reads like a net spend of £150M

But, I think what you are trying to say is we can buy before selling, but that our net spend will still be closer to £50M once the dust settles on the window.

 

[SpartanSpur]

I do see where people are coming from on here tonight, does feel a bit 'same old, same old', but you also have to realise Levy did just get Poch and Kane to sign record deals that absolutely smashed our current records. Which optimistic ITK like Herc told us. Hopefully quite a few more to follow.

Anyone who read the excellent post from Trix in the Grealish thread will also realise how hard it is for us to land major signings early.

And to those saying that we are strengthening Utd's biggest weakness. They had one of the best defensive records in the league, they struggled to keep pace with City due to dour football that was classic Mourinho. He gets in their side but I'm not convinced that's their big weakness.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Like spoilt kids at xmas on here.

Nope like fans who have just paid for the most expensive season tickets in the country in the second largest stadium and aren’t willing to accept second best anymore. If the club want to charge us top dollar then we have every right to expect top quality on the pitch, not (as has been alluded to) a series of middle tier hit and hope signings with limited financial downside.

 

[tony0379]

So why were we in for Martial when we knew it was going to be an impossible deal to pull off? Wasted a month fucking about again.

 

[tommyt]

I don’t think ITK have factored in contract renewals, and thats where this magic £150 million has come from. Our spend will probably be much lower for incomings.

I think that has definitely been considered, just not completely clarified.

The problem is, people want exact figures and we're never going to be privy to that detailed information.

It's the transfer window. It's the daily itk thread. The information contained is never going to be the most up-to-date thinking of DL, Pochettino and the team, but it's close to it and a snapshot of it.

Just enjoy the ride ??

 

[wiggo24]

no because at the time signings weren't as inflated, and Walker had a longer contract, but wasn't truly happy. Poch wants a happy squad, 1 bad apple, whinger in the ranks can cause disruption. if your not on board please jump ship and swim elsewhere, because a happy squad can help build confidence

Was referring more to the *choice* (aware that i might be unavoidable) to sell to direct rivals, rather than the sale of unhappy players.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Nope like fans who have just paid for the most expensive season tickets in the country in the second largest stadium and aren’t willing to accept second best anymore. If the club want to charge us top dollar then we have every right to expect top quality on the pitch, not (as has been alluded to) a series of middle tier hit and hope signings with limited financial downside.

Who do we have that is not top quality?

(Besides Sissoko...)

 

[dondo]

If we hold him until next summer - he goes for £25M....

He will be sold this summer imo you just don’t bend over backwards to the first offer that comes in.
We don’t want to sell to a rival, they don’t want to sell to a rival both or nothing imo.

 

[KlinsmansCoughMixture]

I think this gets confusing to people. It reads like a net spend of £150M

But, I think what you are trying to say is we can buy before selling, but that our net spend will still be closer to £50M once the dust settles on the window.

What about contract renawals though, i bet no one is factoring these in as part of the £150

 

[tommyt]

So why were we in for Martial when we knew it was going to be an impossible deal to pull off? Wasted a month fucking about again.

Really? Maybe it only became apparent recently after all avenues have been exhausted.

I'd like to think so anyhow.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

He will be sold this summer imo you just don’t bend over backwards to the first offer that comes in.
We don’t want to sell to a rival, they don’t want to sell to a rival both or nothing imo.

right, but in your scenario - to which I responded - you said Man United would buy someone else, and we would put Toby in the reserves for 6 months.

Hence - my response that Spurs are the only loser in that scenario. United strengthen, and instead of ~£65M for Toby, Spurs get £25M or worse, if he gets injured again...

If the United offer is legit, its a no-brainer for Spurs.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I think this gets confusing to people. It reads like a net spend of £150M

But, I think what you are trying to say is we can buy before selling, but that our net spend will still be closer to £50M once the dust settles on the window.

Our sum for buying is our sum for buying. However that sum has to be financed one way or another, and over the summer outgoings are a way to finance (part of) it. But outgoings and incomings are not religiously linked. I think.