The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 19th August 2016

Hoopspur

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so first Levy needs to agree deals and shift TWO separate players.
then negotiate with the club of the 'proper signing' to agree fee.

in how many days left before window closes?

this sort of ITK is best kept a secret
So are you assuming that all this business that has to be done hasn't actually going for the last month? :rolleyes: DL himself (once more) is only just finishing poring one final slab of concrete (he likes to do everything you know) and is loading his fax machine - yet another cliche, to start negotiating on these transfers.
 

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Strange how so many people talk about fax machines relative to transfer dealings. Nobody uses fax machines for transfers any more, those days are long gone.
 

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Yes well times change, and the club has needed to addapt to those changes. Levy has publically said what type of players we will be looking at. Poch has publically said what type of players he likes and wants to bring in. Yet we go through 2 months of a transfer window with fans hoping/expecting we get established top class superstars. Not only that but they are then dissapointed when we end up not buying them. You can point to the club moto and quote Billy Nick till the cows come home but unfortunately Dorothy we are not in Kansas any more. It is afar cry from the 1960's when those quotes and moto were relevant and unfortunately it is a completely different set of rules now as far as transfers are concerned.
At the same time Spurs must be able to compete in the transfer market for the best players. Hoping to constantly unearth 'gems' like Alli and Dier could see Spurs slip down the league table when other clubs are willing to spend money to bring in talent.

Our interest in Batshuayi was widely reported - yet we weren't able to bring in that player. I know that Chelsea came in and grabbed him from under our noses (how many times have they done that?) but you'd think this club would have been more committed to bringing in this talented player and getting the deal wrapped up before another club came in and snatched him.

We were supposed to be interested in Wijnaldum. Liverpool got him.

Tottenham Hotspur needs to compete effectively both on the field and off it. We're doing well on the field due in great part to the efforts off the field. Other clubs (particularly with new tv money) are bringing in high-priced quality players. If Spurs can't, or won't, compete for these players then I'm not so sure that we'll be able to maintain top four status.

If we can't maintain a spot in the Champions League what then? Will our stars want to stay? Imagine a scenario when we're about to kick-off the season in the new stadium and Harry Kane asks for a move. Not good.

The Club needs to spend to compete. Typically you get what you pay for. Depending on unearthed gems and bargains could have a profound effect on the Club's position in the league going forward.
 

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If Bentaleb and Chadli are true sportsmen (and want to play on a regular basis) then they'll want to move. Not too long to see how this pans out...
An issue may be finding someone to take on Bentalebs wages, not necessarily suitors for the player himself.

Unless of course he's willing to take a pay cut, which given how stubborn he's reported to have been during contract negotiations seems unlikely.
 

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Good to see we approach the end of the window with the anticipation of the fabled "big name signing". It's the same every window and it very rarely materialises.

I expect it will just be Count Dooku and no one else. It will leave us short imo, with Eriksen as the only real playmaker in the squad, but I'm not expecting anything else.
At the same time Spurs must be able to compete in the transfer market for the best players. Hoping to constantly unearth 'gems' like Alli and Dier could see Spurs slip down the league table when other clubs are willing to spend money to bring in talent.

Our interest in Batshuayi was widely reported - yet we weren't able to bring in that player. I know that Chelsea came in and grabbed him from under our noses (how many times have they done that?) but you'd think this club would have been more committed to bringing in this talented player and getting the deal wrapped up before another club came in and snatched him.

We were supposed to be interested in Wijnaldum. Liverpool got him.

Tottenham Hotspur needs to compete effectively both on the field and off it. We're doing well on the field due in great part to the efforts off the field. Other clubs (particularly with new tv money) are bringing in high-priced quality players. If Spurs can't, or won't, compete for these players then I'm not so sure that we'll be able to maintain top four status.

If we can't maintain a spot in the Champions League what then? Will our stars want to stay? Imagine a scenario when we're about to kick-off the season in the new stadium and Harry Kane asks for a move. Not good.

The Club needs to spend to compete. Typically you get what you pay for. Depending on unearthed gems and bargains could have a profound effect on the Club's position in the league going forward.
We have been outspent by Liverpool season after season and yet finished above them how many times in the last 6-7 years? Leicester won the league last season spending a fraction of the money the chasing pack did. Athletico constantly compete with real and barca despite spending a fraction of the money they do. Don't get sucked into the Sky rhetoric that money guaranties success because it doesn't as last season proved all over the league. A solid Infrastructure, top level scouting and good coaching has proved many times in the past to be more than an equal to pure spending power. MP wants it this way, so that is the only way to go IMO.
 

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Some people buy a Ferrari others buy a Ford. Both do the same job but one costs a hell of a lot more to maintain.
Expensive players may sometimes be better but nothing is guaranteed.
So, unless we have the multi-millions of City, Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool, we buy less expensive that we can tune up and make slight alterations to so we get the end result and can compete.
Our mechanics are top notch don't you know?
 
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We have been outspent by Liverpool season after season and yet finished above them how many times in the last 6-7 years? Leicester won the league last season spending a fraction of the money the chasing pack did. Athletico constantly compete with real and barca despite spending a fraction of the money they do. Don't get sucked into the Sky rhetoric that money guaranties success because it doesn't as last season proved all over the league. A solid Infrastructure, top level scouting and good coaching has proved many times in the past to be more than an equal to pure spending power. MP wants it this way, so that is the only way to go IMO.

Whilst I agree mostly to what you say I do believe that you can mix the two. We lack an experienced head and a Payet style player in which we must invest. From what we saw last year and in the first two games this season I cannot see us being top four without spending what is needed on the above. In my opinion the lack of the above it cost us the league title last year.
 
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