The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 20th August 2021

[wobwob]

Pape Sarr is one for the future. It's a great deal for that price.

 

[nedley]

From Herc’s latest ITK and everything else we’re seeing, my view (all 100% opinion) is:
- Kane stays
- transfer budget thus reduced
- youth/future becomes more focused rather than “here and now” players therefore we sign Georgian kid and Sarr fella
- we need another striker but expect it to be another underwhelming loan deal for an obviously back up striker (a la Vinicius)
- defence sorted by tanganga and Sanchez so no more changes

If this plays out then we are in a stronger position overall but haven’t made a step change to starting 11 so no trees ripping up but a steady move forward. If we can do better in transfer market then happy days.

Key will also be losing a couple of names (Sissoko/NDombele/winks/aurier)

Let’s see!! #coys

That imo will be a terrible window.

 

[sweyid]

If it’s true that we’ve set a deadline for the Kane deal it’s really not strange that we’ve not seem much movement yet. Even if some incomings aren’t dependent on the Kane money from our end a massive cash injection would probably move goalposts etc and spending the cash beforehand could possibly allow City to negotiate a lower fee.

 

[CAS_GG]

From Martinez, Damsgaard, and Vlahovic to this…. Another false hope transfer window at spurs!

If we do sign both Sarr and and the guy from Kazan then that to me suggest we have reverted to List B and Harry is staying

 

[mdharris]

If we got Tomiyasu, Sarr, and Lacroix, and kept HK, I’d consider that a successful window. Our defense would be strengthened significantly. I remain hopeful that ML and the Japanese lad do indeed come in, although the ITK has been quiet on that recently. With Skipp coming through the ranks, hopefully the ongoing rejuvenation of Dele, and Sarr, we’d be stronger in midfield than last year.

Obviously, picking up another striker is key (and seemingly has been a priority), but if we keep Harry for another year then we could feasibly fix the situation in Jan or next summer. It’s not ideal or course. But if we see this as a process, we would have made great strides this summer.

For what it’s worth, if we could sell Harry for a good price and get in a top quality replacement immediately, that would be the best outcome for me.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

The info circulating about Sanchez is really worrying. Maybe he does come good, but I doubt it and he’s not shown consistent signs of being an effective defender in a counterattacking team- he was bought for a Pochettino side, one that favoured possession and a high line, hence the premium on his pace. The Tanganga news is also perplexing; his injury record worries me. So if we don’t sign another RB, we have the worry of injury with Tanganga (although he has so much potential), the concern over the erratic nature of Serge and the gutter shit that is Doherty. I can’t see our defence being any stronger than it was last season, and that isn’t moving forward at all

 

[LeBonge79]

The info circulating about Sanchez is really worrying. Maybe he does come good, but I doubt it and he’s not shown consistent signs of being an effective defender in a counterattacking team- he was bought for a Pochettino side, one that favoured possession and a high line, hence the premium on his pace. The Tanganga news is also perplexing; his injury record worries me. So if we don’t sign another RB, we have the worry of injury with Tanganga (although he has so much potential), the concern over the erratic nature of Serge and the gutter shit that is Doherty. I can’t see our defence being any stronger than it was last season, and that isn’t moving forward at all

As far as Sanchez goes, nobody is gonna suddenly teach him to pass a ball properly if he hasn’t managed it for 20+ years

 

[ssamme]

If we do sign both Sarr and and the guy from Kazan then that to me suggest we have reverted to List B and Harry is staying

For me it is more that we are going through a rebuild where we are focusing on young talents which is what the ITKs have said

 

[spursfan77]

From Herc’s latest ITK and everything else we’re seeing, my view (all 100% opinion) is:
- Kane stays
- transfer budget thus reduced
- youth/future becomes more focused rather than “here and now” players therefore we sign Georgian kid and Sarr fella
- we need another striker but expect it to be another underwhelming loan deal for an obviously back up striker (a la Vinicius)
- defence sorted by tanganga and Sanchez so no more changes

If this plays out then we are in a stronger position overall but haven’t made a step change to starting 11 so no trees ripping up but a steady move forward. If we can do better in transfer market then happy days.

Key will also be losing a couple of names (Sissoko/NDombele/winks/aurier)

Let’s see!! #coys

I can see why Kane wanted out reading that. He wants to be challenging for the league bit top four/rebuild. But we are where we are. In a year’s time with an annual income from the stadium behind us and the Kane fee (if he goes then and not now) we will have a lot of money to spend to properly rebuild. It’s why it’s imperative we move some of the unwanted players on now so we don’t have all that work to do this time next year.

 

[Olliees]

For me the Ndombele situation have changed my expectations for the last week.

Aurier and Sissoko on their own wouldn’t bring us a big fee, but with Ndombele in that mix, we should be looking at between 50-70 million in sales for the three of them. Sarr replacing one of them on the cheap, would then leave a good chunk for a decent striker. Might be too optimistic, but here’s hoping.

 

[Matthew]

The Sarr ITK is interesting when we think back a few weeks and hear that we were going to splash cash to get CL and buy quality. Seems we are back with clever punts for smaller cash.

Could work, could be smart. Feels sad though

hmmm, not sure! Just stinks on nkoudou/Njie

 

[thelak]

From Herc’s latest ITK and everything else we’re seeing, my view (all 100% opinion) is:
- Kane stays
- transfer budget thus reduced
- youth/future becomes more focused rather than “here and now” players therefore we sign Georgian kid and Sarr fella
- we need another striker but expect it to be another underwhelming loan deal for an obviously back up striker (a la Vinicius)
- defence sorted by tanganga and Sanchez so no more changes

If this plays out then we are in a stronger position overall but haven’t made a step change to starting 11 so no trees ripping up but a steady move forward. If we can do better in transfer market then happy days.

Key will also be losing a couple of names (Sissoko/NDombele/winks/aurier)

Let’s see!! #coys

This is kind of why Kane wants to leave

if he stays we don’t invest in the squad properly

There doesn’t seem to be a situation where we keep Kane and then push the boat out to improve the squad too - which I believe despite the poor way he has gone about it is what he always wanted here

Can see the pendulum swinging back quite soon to realising not much has changed in how we do business or our ambitions as a club even if hopefully the young unproven talent we are going for has a better success rate than most of our transfers in the last 5 years

 

[Liamyid28]

It could also be another kante or ndidi, we go on about leicester having great recruitment then moan when we go for someone like this? If it doesn’t work out it’s 10mill not the end of the world and who knows he could turn out to be a gem.

 

[thelak]

For me the Ndombele situation have changed my expectations for the last week.

Aurier and Sissoko on their own wouldn’t bring us a big fee, but with Ndombele in that mix, we should be looking at between 50-70 million in sales for the three of them. Sarr replacing one of them on the cheap, would then leave a good chunk for a decent striker. Might be too optimistic, but here’s hoping.

Not sure who in the current climate is going to risk a sizeable fee on TND knowing they could be getting a total dud

I can’t see anything other than a loan realistically

 

[Matthew]

From Herc’s latest ITK and everything else we’re seeing, my view (all 100% opinion) is:
- Kane stays
- transfer budget thus reduced
- youth/future becomes more focused rather than “here and now” players therefore we sign Georgian kid and Sarr fella
- we need another striker but expect it to be another underwhelming loan deal for an obviously back up striker (a la Vinicius)
- defence sorted by tanganga and Sanchez so no more changes

If this plays out then we are in a stronger position overall but haven’t made a step change to starting 11 so no trees ripping up but a steady move forward. If we can do better in transfer market then happy days.

Key will also be losing a couple of names (Sissoko/NDombele/winks/aurier)

Let’s see!! #coys

have I missed this update?

 

[Olliees]

hi early who in the current climate is going to risk a sizeable fee on TND knowing they could be getting a total dud

I can’t see anything other than a loan realistically

Hope we can use him as part of a swap deal with some club who thinks they can make him great.

 

[Wsussexspur]

Not ITK bashing at all, you’re all legends in my eyes and the info you provide is like crack to me but we’ve gone from some ambitious incomings not dependant on Kane’s sale, to a couple of prospects and loans coming in. It’s just a bit deflating when we all agreed we needed major squad reconstruction, and that was the message from the top but we are likely going end up with minor tweaks with some of the problems from the last few seasons still playing a major role in the first team squad

Thats why always take the usual early/mid summer excitement of "we have money to spend its not dependent on Kane leaving and the meeting at uncle Jo's have led to something which will mean money will be invested etc" with a huge pinch of salt.

On other side of coin we might have money to spend but have the same problem every other club has that with transfer market dead in Europe it's proving extremely hard to clear the dead wood at the club. We have alway known we need to do this to bring in new players.

 

[carpediem991]

All well and fine with prospects, but if we dont sign another first team RB and a first team midfielder and a system fitting back up attacker its going to be a long season.

Ah well, lets give it a long week first.

 

[WhiteStripe]

Well , it shouldn't have been. A good deal was there to be done for us for a proven premier league level goalscorer and we were probably too involved looking to Europe.

I like Ings, in fact I have often said we should be looking at him. That doesn’t change the fact that he is 29, has been injury prone in the past, commands a high wage and if Kane were to stay could not be guaranteed as many starts as he would demand. We will have looked at him, we may have decided to sound him out, but wages and regular starts will have been an issue.

 

[DannyNZ]

Hope we can use him as part of a swap deal with some club who thinks they can make him great.

Or into a league where midfielders aren’t expected to run around much or do any tracking.