The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 6th August 2013

[fatpiranha]

'Gussetrot' is a soft cheese made from dog's milk that is popular in Moldova. It is said to have an aroma reminiscent of the Icelandic delicacy 'hakarl' and a texture and taste similar to the popular Japanese staple 'natto'. You can make your own version at home simply by depositing dog's milk in any warm, moist, dark, yeasty place and leaving it undisturbed for several weeks to ferment and mature.

 

[FinnYid]

I really can't understand how JJ can be so confident Bale is leaving if the fee hasn't been agreed yet. I will only start to panic if we actually accept an offer, but I really can't see the two clubs agreeing the fee this summer.

Real have made most of their major signings before this date (6th of august) par those with one year left on their contracts (Ozil, Owen) and Modric, who was always going to join and it was merely fight for fee. So longer this goes, more and more unlikely transfers seems to me.

 

[Kiedis]

I have no doubt in my mind that in Real Madrid's case, they would have made it clear to Bale's agent what the offer is, who would have relayed it to Bale who then may have accepted it. This would happen if Levy said "fuck off Real Madrid" (i.e. without permission) or was in the final throws of negotiation (with permission).

So I wouldn't read too much into a player's potential agreement as to wages.

Especially considering he's not for fucking sale.

Tor Kristian Karlsen, norwegian scout/director of football/blabbermouth/name-dropper/Guardian contributor has stated that clubs very rarely bid for players that they haven't already approached and sorted out their interest in a transfer, wage demands and so on. It most deals (bar deadline day chaos deals), the transfer fee between the clubs are the last thing that gets sorted.

One can safely assume that Bale is very much aware of what his personal terms will be.

If Karlsen is to be believed.

 

[Gedson100]

I'm just gonna reiterate for the benefit of collective sanity that there is no way that we are gonna recruit a series of wishlist players if we sold Bale.

Maybe one.

If you disagree with me, recall all previous replacements purchased for our star players and then try and think how realistic it is to expect us to spend the last week of the window buying a load of £10-20m players.

 

[Donki]

Real have made most of their major signings before this date (6th of august) par those with one year left on their contracts (Ozil, Owen) and Modric, who was always going to join and it was merely fight for fee. So longer this goes, more and more unlikely transfers seems to me.

IMO they will want him in before their league starts, Bale is this season's "Galáctico" and they will want to do all thier RP bullshit to milk it for all its worth, que the one kid breaking through the barriers to hug him (if he signs). Everyday that goes on is a day closer to us keeping him, they wil have to focus thier intrest else where at some point.

 

[ryantegan]

How can anyone ever tire of hearing that someone is hoping for Bale clarity? It's fresh, it's original and it's damned erotic.

The previous 9,318 posts saying this all gave me the horn. Yes that's right, the horn. I admit it 'kay? Every time this gets said I get the horn. Except this time. Ryan, i'm sorry, i'm sure you're a nice bloke and all that but you do not give me the horn.

It's not you, it's me.

You orrible bastard. Im wearing my best frock as well.

I get your point though. catalyst for shit and all that

 

[tony0379]

How can anyone ever tire of hearing that someone is hoping for Bale clarity? It's fresh, it's original and it's damned erotic.

The previous 9,318 posts saying this all gave me the horn. Yes that's right, the horn. I admit it 'kay? Every time this gets said I get the horn. Except this time. Ryan, i'm sorry, i'm sure you're a nice bloke and all that but you do not give me the horn.

It's not you, it's me.

Oh shut up you tart!

 

[talkshowhost86]

Well I have been informed that I have an inner ear virus which is causing me to have the balance of an ever so slightly touched Gareth Bale.

So it looks like I'll be clinging to the couch all day hoping for something interesting to happen in here.

Oh fuck.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I'm just gonna reiterate for the benefit of collective sanity that there is no way that we are gonna recruit a series of wishlist players if we sold Bale.

Maybe one.

If you disagree with me, recall all previous replacements purchased for our star players and then try and think how realistic it is to expect us to spend the last week of the window buying a load of £10-20m players.

Absolutely this. If we sell Bale there will be a lot of devestated and angry people on this site come the close of the window.

Remember when Berbatov and Keane left for a joint £50m and we ended up with a Pavlyuchenko and Frazer Campbell on loan (with no option to buy)?

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Absolutely this. If we sell Bale there will be a lot of devestated and angry people on this site come the close of the window.

Remember when Berbatov and Keane left for a joint £50m and we ended up with a Pavlyuchenko and Frazer Campbell on loan (with no option to buy)?

We still had Bent though, right?

 

[Rout-Ledge]

We still had Bent though, right?

Yeah, still had Bent. But no Defoe.

We reinforced in other positions that summer (Bentley, Modric, dos Santos, Gomes) but didn't properly reinvest in the strikeforce. That summer we were hoping a relatively new manager would be properly backed, and not left with a disjointed squad haunted by the departure of our best player. We were left with a mess.

I'm worried that we'll be looking back on this summer's purchases of Soldado and Paulinho and saying the same thing about the Bale sale. I'm still highly suspicious of the fact that we've broken our transfer record (by quite a long way) this summer.

I'm hoping history doesn't repeat itself, but this is Levy we're talking about.

 

[TheAmerican]

I really can't understand how JJ can be so confident Bale is leaving if the fee hasn't been agreed yet. I will only start to panic if we actually accept an offer, but I really can't see the two clubs agreeing the fee this summer. We don't need to sell, so will only do it for an insane amount, and I can't see real meeting our valuation. I doubt the eventual bid will be anywhere near 100m, so no deal. Most other ITKs seem to follow this train of thought, it about time more of the media could understand this and not see it as RM's right to take who they want for the price they want!

I am assuming it is because we will only sell once we get a certain price. Then, from that certain price, it sounds as though we have set up a contingency plan. I.e. we have targets lined up, with prices previously discussed with clubs and knowledge that the players would accept terms and move to the club. Therefore, if he stays, we have Bale. If he goes, we get our targeted players and whatever cash to pocket. JJ isn't normally all too optimistic about Levy's actions, so I assume everything has to already be in place and practically guaranteed for him to be so confident.

 

[Vwbottom]

Well I have been informed that I have an inner ear virus which is causing me to have the balance of an ever so slightly touched Gareth Bale.

So it looks like I'll be clinging to the couch all day hoping for something interesting to happen in here.

Oh fuck.

You spin me right round, baby, right round
like a record baby, right round round round.

.......First non-player casualty of the transfer window.

 

[Posco]

Tor Kristian Karlsen, norwegian scout/director of football/blabbermouth/name-dropper/Guardian contributor has stated that clubs very rarely bid for players that they haven't already approached and sorted out their interest in a transfer, wage demands and so on. It most deals (bar deadline day chaos deals), the transfer fee between the clubs are the last thing that gets sorted.

One can safely assume that Bale is very much aware of what his personal terms will be.

If Karlsen is to be believed.

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Tor Kristian Karlsen is a spur as far as I know

 

[CrazyKen]

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Tor Kristian Karlsen is a spur as far as I know

Yes, and he often knows very well what he's talking about

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

JJ's ITK from last week said the way the discussions were going with Real that we would be getting players from them in the deal.

I wonder if this part has changed now because he seems super excited about stage 2 - and while i rate both Coentrao and Di Maria (who i don't think is available and wouldn't come to us), are they players to leave JJ as excited as he seems?! Is there any other gettable players from Real that would??!?

The reason i say this is because i doubt however 'planned' stage 2 is at this point, as soon as we sell Bale the goalposts will move (unless we're dealing with Real)

 

[Kiedis]

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Tor Kristian Karlsen is a spur as far as I know

All norwegians of some class are: King Harald, Egil Olsen and author Jo Nesbø. The latter made a point of it by making the drugdealers in one of his books wear Arsenal shirts. Somewhat off topic, but I'm done now

 

[wee_spur]

Steuea playing 2nd leg tonight, Chiriches news tomorrow?

I assume we're all hoping that they lose?

 

[3Dnata]

Gussetrot is David Pleat saying the name of an ex Brighton manager.
I want solid ITK on a new CB today please.

 

[Legend10]

I assume we're all hoping that they lose?

Yes but they hold hold a 2-0 lead from the away leg, so don't hold your breath!