The Daily ITK Discussion thread January 19th 2012

[hugrr]

The first casualty of ITK is the truth?

Couldn't that be classed as ITK bashing?!? :-?

 

[opensaysme]

God I hope they scrap the transfer window ASAP.

True.

 

[taidgh]

Harry hasn't been looking to upgrade our strikeforce for almost 3 seasons because he was happy with the ones we had.

If that clown Onouha is getting £80,000 a week at QPR,how hard must it be for us to negotiate for any half decent player?

From the Guardian:

It is understood that a fee of between £2.5m and £2.75m has been agreed for Onuoha, who is expected to be offered a weekly salary significantly less than the reported £80,000.​

He won't be getting 80gs a week, so can we put that fallacy to bed now?
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[Twizzle]

this is just the lol before the storm

 

[jbstarr14]

Obviously players like Modric and Bale are the one's i'm talking about. Players with the potential to become world class stars. Bare in mind if they are happy playing champions league by finishing 3rd or 4th each year on 60-80 k a week; they could do the same at Chelsea for double that. Heck they could even go to City and mount a genuine title run. Modric and Bale could get into any team in the world,(Bar Modric replacing Xavi/Iniesta) and to think that they wouldn't consider leaving for any of following clubs would be foolhardy. They can all offer Champions league football minimum and more money.

Chelsea - more money, same current status/reputation
Man UTD - more money, better reputation
Barca - Best team in the world, more money
City - Currently the best team in the league, more money
Real - Most famous club in world football, league leaders, more money

Taking Real and Barca out of the equation, for obvious reasons - Imagine if we were to put together a run and end up finishing second to City. Do you really think players of the calibre of Modric and Bale would move to sides in the premiership that finished lower? I think it much more likely that they would ask for improved contracts, rather than transfers.
As for city, I genuinely feel that we're starting to see a change in spending patterns there. They have to start balancing the books sometime, and I wonder if the spending spree over the last few seasons has simply been a stock-piling exercise in the knowledge that it all had to be done before FFP rules began to take effect. Let's also not forget that with a WC on the horizon, players may well prefer not to spend half a season on the bench, regardless of the size of the paycheque on offer.

Also, it's really only been Modders who's pushed for a move, and that was to a club who were at the time more highly regarded than us, a team who most now accept to be in declne.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that ALL players are motivated either by money, or the chance of a guaranteed winner's medal. I'm sure there are some at our club who are, but I am equally sure that there are some who are just as excited as we are at the progress being made, feeling the same pride in our achievements and the way we have gone about them.
I'd like to think that if we were able to pull off somethingspecial this year, those players we worry about losing would stick around in anticipation of something even more amazing next year.

 

[don1]

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[RuskyM]

I will think you will find Benny did get injured last season against West Brom. pulled a hamstring. Hence Rose was used as left back to keep Bale on the left wing.
Capable playing a position and playing in a position as your trade are 2 separate things.

Except he's proven time and time again for both club and country that he's better at LB than LM.

 

[punkisback]

Taking Real and Barca out of the equation, for obvious reasons - Imagine if we were to put together a run and end up finishing second to City. Do you really think players of the calibre of Modric and Bale would move to sides in the premiership that finished lower? I think it much more likely that they would ask for improved contracts, rather than transfers.
As for city, I genuinely feel that we're starting to see a change in spending patterns there. They have to start balancing the books sometime, and I wonder if the spending spree over the last few seasons has simply been a stock-piling exercise in the knowledge that it all had to be done before FFP rules began to take effect. Let's also not forget that with a WC on the horizon, players may well prefer not to spend half a season on the bench, regardless of the size of the paycheque on offer.

Also, it's really only been Modders who's pushed for a move, and that was to a club who were at the time more highly regarded than us, a team who most now accept to be in declne.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that ALL players are motivated either by money, or the chance of a guaranteed winner's medal. I'm sure there are some at our club who are, but I am equally sure that there are some who are just as excited as we are at the progress being made, feeling the same pride in our achievements and the way we have gone about them.
I'd like to think that if we were able to pull off somethingspecial this year, those players we worry about losing would stick around in anticipation of something even more amazing next year.

That is what I hope for. At least one more season with us to prove that we can wing the league. My post was probably the worst possible scenario; but I do believe that we need a new stadium to really get on the same level as everyone else.

 

[StartingPrice]

I reckon you should ask Ian Broomfield if you can join the scouting team, like you mentioned the other day.

IB: Now, Hotty, remember we're here to spot the next Spurs superstar, not to check out the men in their short shorts.

HS: I know, Ian, what do you take me for. I'm a dedicated professional.

IB: Of course you are, I'm sorry. Right here come the teams, let's see if we can find us a gem.

HS: Ooh, nice balls.

IB: Hotty! What did I tell you?!

HS: I'm talking about the Nike T90 Tracer Hi-Vis Winter Edition balls they're warming up with.

IB: Ah, right you are, carry on.

HS: Nice tackle.

IB: Goddammit, Hotty!

HS: Calm down, I'm talking about the challenge that guy just made.

IB: Sorry, my fault again, I shouldn't be making assumptions.

HS: Honestly it's ok, let's just watch the game.

IB: Good idea. What do you think of that striker?

HS: Damn, my crotch is all wet now.

IB: What?!?!?!

HS: I've just spilt my tea down myself, Ian, because some idiot kicked the ball at me.

IB: I'm so sorry, Hotty, I'm not used to having a woman working with me. I really do apologise.

HS: Nothing to apologise for. Oh shit, would you look at that cock!

IB: Oh come on, there can't be anything innocent about that remark? Oh, hang on, I see what you mean. I wonder who invited John Terry to the game.

:grin:

HS: "Wot the fack d'you do that for...facking idiot..wot, wot, you were tryin' to score...it's no wonder you're in the reserves...fack off, fack off" Eek

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

What's the deadline for signing a player in time to be able to play on Sunday?

Are we stuck with vdV as a lone forward yet (a job he actually did really well against Blackburn last season, but that's another thread)?

 

[PrettyColors]

What's the deadline for signing a player in time to be able to play on Sunday?

Are we stuck with vdV as a lone forward yet (a job he actually did really well against Blackburn last season, but that's another thread)?

It's passed IMO. If we sign Leandro tomorrow, hell if we sign anyone tomorrow, no way they play vs. City.

'Arry's not going to just make a guy start against the League fucking Leaders for his debut. I'd say (and yes, I know you won't like it) we go with Defoe up top. He's said he sees Defoe as the starter v. City, and if we put VDV alone up top in the 4-6-0 Defoe will throw a tantrum, and Pav may break out of his coma to blink angrily.

No, I think we go Defoe up top. I also think we don't win the game.

 

[Bware]

I'm growing incredibly disillusioned with this transfer window. Since we got rid of Comolli, we seem to be playing the waiting game with all our targets as opposed to going out and getting the players we want. If we want Damiao or Remy, then we should get our asses to Brazil/France and try and do a deal for him as opposed to waiting it out and trying to save a couple of million, hoping other targets open up in the last 24 hours, or that a special player who we don't need becomes available for cheap. When it comes to signing a striker, we shouldn't be using this TK Maxx philosophy. It always affects our season too much to be effective. We should do our business early, get the players we want/get rid of the ones we don't, and then leave the 'Levy signings' for later if they are there to be had.

 

[ravo]

It's passed IMO. If we sign Leandro tomorrow, hell if we sign anyone tomorrow, no way they play vs. City.

'Arry's not going to just make a guy start against the League fucking Leaders for his debut. I'd say (and yes, I know you won't like it) we go with Defoe up top. He's said he sees Defoe as the starter v. City, and if we put VDV alone up top in the 4-6-0 Defoe will throw a tantrum, and Pav may break out of his coma to blink angrily.

No, I think we go Defoe up top. I also think we don't win the game.

I agree (even though it's probably not the right place for it), there is no way that Defoe won't start.