The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - OPEN

[DIEHARD]

15k a week puts things in perspective but put a 6 in front of that 15 and you make 99% of the world go "yep this world is fucked".

Don't want to be a anti-free market capitalist, but Tevez just became the uber uber 1% in Argentina. Probably makes more in one week then a whole flavela in Rio makes in a decade. (I understand Rio is not in Argentina I just don't know what their hoods are called in Buenos Aires)

The separation between rich and poor is just mind boggling. A week to play football and will possibly by a diamond earring set for someone with his new found boats of cash when that child in Africa mines for DeBeers. I know we all play a role in the worlds rat race, but when people that seemingly add very little real world value to society, but still get paid absurd amounts is just wrong. Give one weeks wages to a district of schools in your hometown Tevez. Use that money to impact something and make it be known you are doing it!

Not saying these guys are bad people for taking the money, but the system is broken when a teacher in the inner city of Chicago has to wear a bullet proof vest and Dwayne Wade gets 20m a year to play 82 games and train. Don't get me wrong, Dwayne does a lot of good, but again the system is fucked.

Rant over

That escalated quickly haha

I agree though. I can see why China are doing it, to raise the profile of football over there, but they really are just throwing money at these players who couldn't care less but earn a few bob before retiring. I don't blame the players ofcourse, I'd fucking go there in a flash for a year or two then retire.

 

[Spurger King]

15k a week puts things in perspective but put a 6 in front of that 15 and you make 99% of the world go "yep this world is fucked".

Don't want to be a anti-free market capitalist, but Tevez just became the uber uber 1% in Argentina. Probably makes more in one week then a whole flavela in Rio makes in a decade. (I understand Rio is not in Argentina I just don't know what their hoods are called in Buenos Aires)

The separation between rich and poor is just mind boggling. A week to play football and will possibly by a diamond earring set for someone with his new found boats of cash when that child in Africa mines for DeBeers. I know we all play a role in the worlds rat race, but when people that seemingly add very little real world value to society, but still get paid absurd amounts is just wrong. Give one weeks wages to a district of schools in your hometown Tevez. Use that money to impact something and make it be known you are doing it!

Not saying these guys are bad people for taking the money, but the system is broken when a teacher in the inner city of Chicago has to wear a bullet proof vest and Dwayne Wade gets 20m a year to play 82 games and train. Don't get me wrong, Dwayne does a lot of good, but again the system is fucked.

Rant over

Well that's capitalism for ya! I guess at least one saving grace is that with football it generally is a possible career for most kids in developed and semi-developed countries. Obviously luck comes into it too, but it's not like some of the banking jobs or sports like F1 where you generally have to be rich already just to get your foot in the door.

Football is also generally a meritocracy. Players like Alli were never going to stay in the lower leagues when they carry on performing like he did, and players rarely stay on mega wages if they consistently play shit (unless of course you own an Asian club and are happy to pay over the odds for those past their best).

It is ridiculous though. Can't see it changing unless there's a new world order in charge of everything, and who happen to impose wage caps (which isn't exactly what I see a new world order being interested in, even with John Barnes involved).

 

[DIEHARD]

Well that's capitalism for ya! I guess at least one saving grace is that with football it generally is a possible career for most kids in developed and semi-developed countries. Obviously luck comes into it too, but it's not like some of the banking jobs or sports like F1 where you generally have to be rich already just to get your foot in the door.

Football is also generally a meritocracy. Players like Alli were never going to stay in the lower leagues when they carry on performing like he did, and players rarely stay on mega wages if they consistently play shit (unless of course you own an Asian club and are happy to pay over the odds for those past their best).

It is ridiculous though. Can't see it changing unless there's a new world order in charge of everything, and who happen to impose wage caps (which isn't exactly what I see a new world order being interested in, even with John Barnes involved).

I don't think it should or need to change. We are all in this to earn as much as we can, it just so happens that football pays more than say accountancy. Football provides entertainment and I guess entertaining comes with a price etc. I suspect by raising the profile the Chinese league would get a tonne through sponsorship, they see it as an investment.

It's absurd but if you can get that amount though then none of us would complain.

 

[Cravenspurs]

That escalated quickly haha

I agree though. I can see why China are doing it, to raise the profile of football over there, but they really are just throwing money at these players who couldn't care less but earn a few bob before retiring. I don't blame the players ofcourse, I'd fucking go there in a flash for a year or two then retire.

Well that's capitalism for ya! I guess at least one saving grace is that with football it generally is a possible career for most kids in developed and semi-developed countries. Obviously luck comes into it too, but it's not like some of the banking jobs or sports like F1 where you generally have to be rich already just to get your foot in the door.

Football is also generally a meritocracy. Players like Alli were never going to stay in the lower leagues when they carry on performing like he did, and players rarely stay on mega wages if they consistently play shit (unless of course you own an Asian club and are happy to pay over the odds for those past their best).

It is ridiculous though. Can't see it changing unless there's a new world order in charge of everything, and who happen to impose wage caps (which isn't exactly what I see a new world order being interested in, even with John Barnes involved).

haha...look at this hot head over here

Yeah, all too true Spurger and Diehard. The players have every right to play within the system, it's just the system that is so ass backwards. Unfortunately that is the way of the beast though.

 

[Charly***]

Expect GKN to get more game time in the new year, in the

If we went to a back 3, I imagine Wimmer becomes the cover for Vertonghen, and Davies is surplus to requirements.

Maybe replace Davies with Sessegnon?

Although Davies plays left of a 3 for Wales and he's probably better there than as a marauding full back.

 

[nailsy]

Nothing has changed. Zaha is not for sale. They are looking to add players. (Jay Rodriguez)

Any idea if he's got a relegation release clause?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Moving the ball fast and doing something with it, instead of getting to the edge of the box and slowing play down, losing momentum and allowing the defence back. A sprinter doesn't necessarily fix this, someone with a brain in the final third does.

Amen to this, but it also goes for the CM area too.

 

[nuttynoah]

Jay Rodriguez would fit in well, dunno about dealing with soton again though.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

So according to the latest ITK Poch is worried about a lack of pace and burning out player like Alli, but continually picks him, even when he's been poor for weeks on end, when he could be playing Son (who was on form until he kept getting dropped for Alli) Sissoko, GKN or even Onomah and possibly solving the pace and burn-out issues at the same time ?

I'm not saying I want or think any of those should be automatic replacements for Alli every week, but surely they could be used to alternate and freshen him up more than they have ?

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Well that's capitalism for ya! I guess at least one saving grace is that with football it generally is a possible career for most kids in developed and semi-developed countries. Obviously luck comes into it too, but it's not like some of the banking jobs or sports like F1 where you generally have to be rich already just to get your foot in the door.

Football is also generally a meritocracy. Players like Alli were never going to stay in the lower leagues when they carry on performing like he did, and players rarely stay on mega wages if they consistently play shit (unless of course you own an Asian club and are happy to pay over the odds for those past their best).

It is ridiculous though. Can't see it changing unless there's a new world order in charge of everything, and who happen to impose wage caps (which isn't exactly what I see a new world order being interested in, even with John Barnes involved).

Nice opening paragraph (no way am I a teacher on holiday)

 

[guy]

In the last couple of years we've spent :
10m on N'Jie
9m on gkn
22m on Son
30m on Sissoko

70mill on wide attackers, all of whom are not good enough. it's been extremely poor recruitment by the club

They have to get it bloody right this time

Not sure how so many can disagree with this.

NJie showed absolutely nothing in his time here to suggest he would make it and was swiftly sent on loan where apparently he’s been poor

Sissoko is well, Sissoko. Not the attacker with end product we needed. And for 30mill

Son is wildly inconsistent, can be brilliant but then misplaces 5-yard passes time and time again, and his first touch can be awful

GKN has shown glimpses of skill but he’s never going to be a world beater is he? Has failed to make the starting XI. Winks, alli, etc have shown its possible

None of them have been a success thus far, let alone the creative/goal scoring force we have all craved for 2 or more years. That is a fact

 

[TommyGee]

Not sure how so many can disagree with this.

NJie showed absolutely nothing in his time here to suggest he would make it and was swiftly sent on loan where apparently he’s been poor

Sissoko is well, Sissoko. Not the attacker with end product we needed. And for 30mill

Son is wildly inconsistent, can be brilliant but then misplaces 5-yard passes time and time again, and his first touch can be awful

GKN has shown glimpses of skill but he’s never going to be a world beater is he? Has failed to make the starting XI. Winks, alli, etc have shown its possible

None of them have been a success thus far, let alone the creative/goal scoring force we have all craved for 2 or more years. That is a fact

Did you just reply to yourself?

 

[guy]

Did you just reply to yourself?

Yes, yes I did.

No, replying to the disagree'ers to my post

 

[Shadydan]

Not sure how so many can disagree with this.

NJie showed absolutely nothing in his time here to suggest he would make it and was swiftly sent on loan where apparently he’s been poor

Sissoko is well, Sissoko. Not the attacker with end product we needed. And for 30mill

Son is wildly inconsistent, can be brilliant but then misplaces 5-yard passes time and time again, and his first touch can be awful

GKN has shown glimpses of skill but he’s never going to be a world beater is he? Has failed to make the starting XI. Winks, alli, etc have shown its possible

None of them have been a success thus far, let alone the creative/goal scoring force we have all craved for 2 or more years. That is a fact

If you read the responses it will tell you why people disagreed, you're suggesting that these players aren't good enough and a waste of money when the truth is that the jury is still out on them.

 

[leffe186]

Did we not have ITK that we were looking at Fulham's Ryan Sessegnon in the past? Maybe we are looking to sell BD and bring in this kid.

Well the ITK just says that Palace are asking the question, not that we're looking to sell. Given that it seems we're interested in Zaha we'd have to at least entertain the possibility of a deal.

 

[Lilbaz]

It's Pochettino, not I, who is the source of the worry about fatigue, too small squad. His worry, after three summer transfer windows, saddens me. That's what I'm commenting on, the actual ITK. The comments about squad size is not my subjective view (in this thread). I don't understand why you keep making an argument out of it in this thread.

I'm not. You said you were sad and i was trying to cheer you up.

 

[Col_M]

Nice to see The Goat's Gazebo back in action

I think you're in the wrong website you pervert!!

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

interesting to see that the info from the Goat about Bazoer came 2 days before he was announced by Wolfsburg, not that i'm shitting on The Goat and ITK just interesting to know what the difference is between the info that is given to our best ITK'ers and the now

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

interesting to see that the info from the Goat about Bazoer came 2 days before he was announced by Wolfsburg, not that i'm shitting on The Goat and ITK just interesting to know what the difference is between the info that is given to our best ITK'ers and the now

What does that mean? 'the now'?

Also, how old was the ITK when it was posted? How long did it take to get from the source to the ITK?

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

What does that mean? 'the now'?

Also, how old was the ITK when it was posted? How long did it take to get from the source to the ITK?

well that's what i'm asking in my comment