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For the love of Spurs

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Judging by the 'itk' if it is true then it strikes me that Poch doesn't rate GKN and Janssen... In which case why get them.

I don't think we will get anyone in January... It just really isn't the time to buy real quality

Might not be rate them rather they are still very young and could take a season or two, he might simply want ready made players.

Question is would we pay 150k a week for Isco, probably no.
 

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Janssen and Nkoudou have age on their side, don't think we should write them off just yet.

If we do bring a winger in then we might want to think about sending GKN out on loan for the rest of the season imo.

Isn't that what happened in the summer with njie when we signed nkoudou?
 

TEESSIDE1

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To get the quality we need, to be better than we have, will cost big wages. The fee is not the problem. The wages is as it could affect the whole squad. I like what we're doing and how we're doing it. I do not believe we should just throw money at someone just because he fits. It's a risk, and a risk that we cannot afford right now. Maybe one day soon, when the stadium's built etc we can offer better. I love the way we're run.
Look at City, look at their wage bill! They are not far ahead of us, at all. Big salaries and big wages does not make you successful.

You can get around it by giving them a whopping undisclosed signing on fee. If existing players are going to get upset then they're mercenaries and can go jump.
 

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Seriously scouts, what are you fucking watching? Denis Suarez >>>>> Bruma. All these technical AMs >>>>> then goddamn straight line pace.
The problem Spurs have isn't breaking with pace - Walker, Rose, Sissoko all capable of running fast - it's attacking with speed. Moving the ball fast and doing something with it, instead of getting to the edge of the box and slowing play down, losing momentum and allowing the defence back. A sprinter doesn't necessarily fix this, someone with a brain in the final third does. For the time being, perhaps Lamela centrally would work, but in the future it needs to be someone decisive. The names I'd suggest are all at top clubs, which is a shame and I don't watch enough other games to pluck lesser known names out, but imagine someone like Isco in the middle and someone like Aubameyang attacking from wide. Where those players are though, don't know :D

Look at City, look at their wage bill! They are not far ahead of us, at all. Big salaries and big wages does not make you successful.

There is a strong correlation between wage bills and where the teams finish in the league. This may be out of date now, with TV deals skewing the figures, but gives you an idea: http://www.sportingintelligence.com...-be-in-a-two-horse-race-for-the-title-200301/

Their view that 'average wage per first team player' is probably better because City have a large squad and Arsenal overpay their young players.

I suppose the theory is that while transfer fees are determined by other factors - like how English teams pay a lot more for players because other clubs know they can squeeze them - the salaries show the 'worth' of a player, rather than just the cost like the fees do.

Helps if you buy the right players though, instead of just collecting players for the sake of it (Chelsea!) or chopping and changing every season or two (City and Spurs with Njie/GNK).
 

Cravenspurs

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The problem Spurs have isn't breaking with pace - Walker, Rose, Sissoko all capable of running fast - it's attacking with speed. Moving the ball fast and doing something with it, instead of getting to the edge of the box and slowing play down, losing momentum and allowing the defence back. A sprinter doesn't necessarily fix this, someone with a brain in the final third does. For the time being, perhaps Lamela centrally would work, but in the future it needs to be someone decisive. The names I'd suggest are all at top clubs, which is a shame and I don't watch enough other games to pluck lesser known names out, but imagine someone like Isco in the middle and someone like Aubameyang attacking from wide. Where those players are though, don't know :D



There is a strong correlation between wage bills and where the teams finish in the league. This may be out of date now, with TV deals skewing the figures, but gives you an idea: http://www.sportingintelligence.com...-be-in-a-two-horse-race-for-the-title-200301/

Their view that 'average wage per first team player' is probably better because City have a large squad and Arsenal overpay their young players.

I suppose the theory is that while transfer fees are determined by other factors - like how English teams pay a lot more for players because other clubs know they can squeeze them - the salaries show the 'worth' of a player, rather than just the cost like the fees do.

Helps if you buy the right players though, instead of just collecting players for the sake of it (Chelsea!) or chopping and changing every season or two (City and Spurs with Njie/GNK).

Agreed that pace in terms of actual running speed is not our issue, it is guile. Which is clearly what we need. Aubameyang might be a fast mother fucker but he is rather technical and a hell of a finisher. He is not Bruma that is for damn sure. Which you clearly understand and is not meant to be challenging your Aubameyang suggestion.
 

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You can get around it by giving them a whopping undisclosed signing on fee. If existing players are going to get upset then they're mercenaries and can go jump.

ding ding ding.

100kpw for 1 year = 5.2m
60 kpw for 1 year = 3.1m

just use sign on fee to make up what ever difference..thats lump sum upfront. they will take it in a fucking heartbeat
 

Parkie

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ding ding ding.

100kpw for 1 year = 5.2m
60 kpw for 1 year = 3.1m

just use sign on fee to make up what ever difference..thats lump sum upfront. they will take it in a fucking heartbeat
Sadly the agents of the rest of the players would demand parity. Doesn't matter how it's paid, it is still wages.
 

wallyjakeman

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Sounds like Poch has a clear plan of what is needed in january. IMO the problem is that we will have a tough time getting players with a guaranteed immediate impact while the stadium is being built. We haven't afforded those kind of players in a long time. We have to take our chances with cheaper players and hope it works.
 

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In the last couple of years we've spent :
10m on N'Jie
9m on gkn
22m on Son
30m on Sissoko

70mill on wide attackers, all of whom are not good enough. it's been extremely poor recruitment by the club

They have to get it bloody right this time
 

The Scarecrow

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Judging by the occurances of the last few years, Poch has zero clue what he wants. He sells Lennon and Townsend then brings in N'Jie, who he doesnt give an opportunity to. Then he fucks him off and brings in N'Koudou who likely will be fucked off in the summer since he wont get an opportunity either.
I think it's obvious that he wants a pacey winger with end product. Neither Lennon nor Townsend are in that category. Mane is, but we need to find those players before they go to clubs like Southampton and triple their value. Which is why Poch has turned to Mitchell in the hope of finding the new Mane, or Mahrez for that matter.
 

Japhet

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Agreed that pace in terms of actual running speed is not our issue, it is guile. Which is clearly what we need. Aubameyang might be a fast mother fucker but he is rather technical and a hell of a finisher. He is not Bruma that is for damn sure. Which you clearly understand and is not meant to be challenging your Aubameyang suggestion.


The ball moves a damn sight quicker than any player, or Usain Bolt for that matter. Players who can pass quickly and accurately, teaming up with forwards who can make runs and find space is where speed in attack comes from. Leg speed isn't that important really if players movement off the ball is good enough and they are not always getting in a one on one situation.
 

Shadydan

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In the last couple of years we've spent :
10m on N'Jie
9m on gkn
22m on Son
30m on Sissoko

70mill on wide attackers, all of whom are not good enough. it's been extremely poor recruitment by the club

They have to get it bloody right this time

The only player who has proved not good enough is Njie who has been sent on loan to improve , the rest of them the jury is out.
 

sparx100

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In the last couple of years we've spent :
10m on N'Jie
9m on gkn
22m on Son
30m on Sissoko

70mill on wide attackers, all of whom are not good enough. it's been extremely poor recruitment by the club

They have to get it bloody right this time
Agree its a lot of money but njie and gkn are still young, sissoko is starting to out in some performances and son is just inconsistent. Dont write them off yet.
 

TommyGee

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In the last couple of years we've spent :
10m on N'Jie
9m on gkn
22m on Son
30m on Sissoko

70mill on wide attackers, all of whom are not good enough. it's been extremely poor recruitment by the club

They have to get it bloody right this time

Might be just me but I love having Son amongst the squad.
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Might be just me but I love having Son amongst the squad.
He's quality, no doubt- the problem is his consistency. Some of his goals have been world class this season but just when you think he's going to kick on, he drops a gear. If he could improve his mentality, he'd be lethal.
 

KirstyG

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Expect GKN to get more game time in the new year, in the cup comps innitially.

Deserves a shot - allows a bit of time for other to rest a bit and also I think although he may be hit and miss at times - there have been flashes in his cameos that suggest he could bring something to the party. Hopefully Sissoko can keep improving too, bring some of that power and pace at least until Dembele finds his fitness/groove again.
 

dagraham

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He's quality, no doubt- the problem is his consistency. Some of his goals have been world class this season but just when you think he's going to kick on, he drops a gear. If he could improve his mentality, he'd be lethal.

He is a scorer of great goals, rather than a great goal scorer. And although I think he's a good squad player, his first touch, control and simple passing is often woeful for an international player.
 
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