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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The BSoDL Edition 12th July 2013

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Lighty64

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I'm a little concerned at the moment that we're still behaving like a poor club in the transfer market and haven't actually financed a stadium yet. We're still not CL regulars either.
How badly will the stadium impact our spending and for how long?
We don't need to look too far to see the negative short term impact it can have. And the neighbours were in far better shape when they did it than we are imo.

The way Levy works, the main bulk of the stadium will be covered with naming rights.

Yes we will have to suffer a bit on our budget, but I doubt it will take a decade.

Anyway lets all just hope we can get players in that will make a difference, and if we don't hope that the squad we do have don't miss so many sitters with the little service they get, and propel us to regular CL footy.
 

Colonel Dax

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remembering the reason we bought siggy was becos he excelled as a CAM in a 443 formation at swansea.

also holtby can also play as CAM if required. Basically when you look at the squad, all we need is benteke kinda of lone striker, and maybe a cover winger.

I have to disagree with this. If we're switching to a 4-3-3 formation, we'll need someone who can provide something a bit different in the final third. Some creativity, guile and subtlety. Bale on one side, striker in the middle and a Bernard type on the other side. So rather than signing a 'cover' winger, we actually need to acquire someone who can come straight into the 1st team. I'm not convinced Sig is the best player to play in that position. In a midfield 3 certainly, but in the final third our team is crying out for someone like Bernard.
 
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Sometimes it's a bigger risk doing nothing than doing something, I think Levy's not being prepared to go the extra yard to fill serious weaknesses in an otherwise pretty decent nucleus of players in recent years has cost us at least three more seasons in the CL and probably around £100 mill in revenue and the thing is we still have to spend money to get the players we need in, that hasn't gone away.
There will always be poor investments, players that don't work out, you can't live your life thinking of just the negatives because there are plenty that do work out that more than compensate, but standing idly by doing nothing rather than be prepared to pay a little extra to fill and important need isn't the way to find success
Mr Mead, sir, you talk an incredible amount of sense. (I just hope you're not labelled an Anti-Levyite for doing so!)
 

Lloris' Left Peg

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"It will eventually increase our transfer budget". Yep, like The Scum's transfer budget eventually increased; after 10 years.
Unfortunately, until Uncle Joe (our BILLIONAIRE OWNER) is prepared to loosen the purse-strings (and is there any discernible reason why he CAN'T?), I think it's going to be a long time before we compete with the big hitters in the transfer market. And I agree with u, "buying a world class striker or 2 won't guarantee CL football"; there are no "guarantees". But it would certainly help, wouldn't it?

So why buy Paulinho then for 15-17 Million.
 
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We are run as a business, and run very well.

You don't get to be a Billionaire if you keep spending your money!
With respect, Rawhide, I still don't think you've answered the question. I was debating if there was any reason why he can't; not, any reason why he won't.
 

Colonel Dax

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We are run as a business, and run very well.

You don't get to be a Billionaire if you keep spending your money!

Many billionaires as they get older actually give most of their money away. Joe Lewis is 76. There's only so much you can leave for the grandchildren.

As Carnegie once said, "a man who dies rich, dies disgraced."
 

wishkah

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I'm happy with the signing don't get me wrong but not at the expense of a striker.


Your point is extremely valid, and i agree there has to be an element of prioritisation in terms of building a team.

At the same time, as many other posters point out - IF a quality player is available, and the deal makes sense then we should grab that player with both hands as it represents a step up. The same conclusion can be made regarding the player referenced in your username. 12m is a lot of money for a GK and could have been distriibuted elsewhere - especially as Brad isn't terrible when playing regularly. Although Hugo is top quality, fills a void for years to come and enables us to play the AVB way. Whilst our CM options are not a huge priority, Paulinho facilitates the same points as Hugo (age, system, quality).

your point and my counter point are equally valid, I would propose the balancing act of fixing the team, and upgrading the team. I'd hope the Paulinho transfer is alongside the striker upgrade. We shall see i guess.
 

Lloris' Left Peg

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Your point is extremely valid, and i agree there has to be an element of prioritisation in terms of building a team.

At the same time, as many other posters point out - IF a quality player is available, and the deal makes sense then we should grab that player with both hands as it represents a step up. The same conclusion can be made regarding the player referenced in your username. 12m is a lot of money for a GK and could have been distriibuted elsewhere - especially as Brad isn't terrible when playing regularly. Although Hugo is top quality, fills a void for years to come and enables us to play the AVB way. Whilst our CM options are not a huge priority, Paulinho facilitates the same points as Hugo (age, system, quality).

your point and my counter point are equally valid, I would propose the balancing act of fixing the team, and upgrading the team. I'd hope the Paulinho transfer is alongside the striker upgrade. We shall see i guess.

Totally agree with what you are saying. Lets hope a striker is imminent. I hope we keep Ade and Defoe and add one other as I think that is all that is needed and not a whole sale change for the sake of it
 

bugsdad

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Why?
He is the most passionate Spurs through and through player we have. It's a massive shame if he doesn't make it here. Unfortunately it looks like he won't!
Freund was also passionate but useless . Doesn't make him a good player and IMHO he is a very poor player and not up to our standard, rather like Ohara....standing by for more bad rep from the Livermore luvvies, but I dint care. I never want to see him play for us again he's crap.
 

rawhide

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Your point is extremely valid, and i agree there has to be an element of prioritisation in terms of building a team.

At the same time, as many other posters point out - IF a quality player is available, and the deal makes sense then we should grab that player with both hands as it represents a step up. The same conclusion can be made regarding the player referenced in your username. 12m is a lot of money for a GK and could have been distriibuted elsewhere - especially as Brad isn't terrible when playing regularly. Although Hugo is top quality, fills a void for years to come and enables us to play the AVB way. Whilst our CM options are not a huge priority, Paulinho facilitates the same points as Hugo (age, system, quality).

your point and my counter point are equally valid, I would propose the balancing act of fixing the team, and upgrading the team. I'd hope the Paulinho transfer is alongside the striker upgrade. We shall see i guess.
Fuck me! You sound sober Wishkah...
 

rawhide

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With respect, Rawhide, I still don't think you've answered the question. I was debating if there was any reason why he can't; not, any reason why he won't.
Moot point. Or semantics.

Of course there's no reason why he can't. He's not being physically restrained or lost his marbles.

However if there are reasons why it won't happen, they are worth mentioning.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Your point is extremely valid, and i agree there has to be an element of prioritisation in terms of building a team.

At the same time, as many other posters point out - IF a quality player is available, and the deal makes sense then we should grab that player with both hands as it represents a step up. The same conclusion can be made regarding the player referenced in your username. 12m is a lot of money for a GK and could have been distriibuted elsewhere - especially as Brad isn't terrible when playing regularly. Although Hugo is top quality, fills a void for years to come and enables us to play the AVB way. Whilst our CM options are not a huge priority, Paulinho facilitates the same points as Hugo (age, system, quality).

your point and my counter point are equally valid, I would propose the balancing act of fixing the team, and upgrading the team. I'd hope the Paulinho transfer is alongside the striker upgrade. We shall see i guess.


I want a bmw m3. I need a new kitchen.
If a cut price m3 came up for sale are you saying it would make sense to buy that instead of the kitchen?
Paulinho looks a fantastic signing but come the close of the window, if that stopped us buying a striker I'll be bitter.
 
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