The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - THE POST MORTEM 1st February

[codspur]

Milan. I should have said Milan.

Imagine my embarrassment.

Say what...we own them bitches

 

[Colonel Dax]

I fail to get your point. we were top at some point too. Should we have won the league too?

Top much earlier in the season though, no? We were 3rd in January with a 10 point gap between us and the scum. That was a great position to be in. Everyone blames Redknapp for our subsequent slide, but IMO it wasn't so black and white.

 

[andyp8080]

Nobody disagrees with that, but if the right player is not available at the right price, you do not buy.

Willian for instance went for £34 million, now that is over paying.

agreed.............although i would rather have brought Danny Graham for £5m that have no one else!!

 

[andyp8080]

£54 million spent since AVB arrived, some penny pinching!

pretty sure some of that was to replace the players we sold for about the same money!!!

 

[Mullers]

Don't disagree with you. Maybe that tells us something though? Not so much about Gyfi's ability (and I like him as a player, goal-scoring, or until this season with us he was, mids aren't all that common) but with how AVB views him and how he might fit into the way he wants us to play as a team? He's played Ade and JD together a few times and it's been ugly most times. Not sure why he hasn't given Ade with Sigs behind him a real look see but he hasn't.

Dempsey has had plenty of goes, and delivered in fairness. Again, I think this points to AVB simply not fancying Sigs though.

I think it's difficult to find a place in the first 11 for Sig, Ade and Defoe showed they could work together last season, they've got goals in them, and like you said Dempsey has done the business, the only possible place I can see for him right now is in midfield with Dembele doing the more defensive role.

 

[kernowspur]

Is 4th place our ceiling? We were 3rd last January.

Yes and then Redknapp went missing because he thought he had the England job.

 

[Colonel Dax]

Yes and then Redknapp went missing because he thought he had the England job.

He fucked up. But he wasn't the only one.

 

[Paolo10]

pretty sure some of that was to replace the players we sold for about the same money!!!

Sold more than we've spent as it happens....again.

Funny that.

 

[Martin Jol Loves Me]

He's not going to spend money the business can't afford, and he's made it very clear that he's not going to base his spending on CL qualification. You mention Rasiak, but he was cheap and we made our money back. That's more than you can say for most of the Comolli-Ramos signings of 2008.

I knew Raziak would be brought up, like that. I meant more panic buying with including him

 

[tiger666]

Sold more than we've spent as it happens....again.

Funny that.

Club balances the books. Shock horror.

 

[Spurs1960]

I never said Penny Pinching. I said Cautious

Reading Facebook at the same time, penny pinching was from there, got em muddled but the principle is the same £54 million is hardly cautious.

 

[Paolo10]

Yeah, balanced. Good one.

 

[tiger666]

Yeah, balanced. Good one.

In the last 5 years we've spent 207 million and made 200 million on players. What's your point?

 

[Spurs1960]

How much sold?

I'll give you a clue, it's more.

We can't give an exact figure because everything is undisclosed but:

Tottenham Hotspur Transfers – January 2013
3 Jan 2013 – Ezekiel Fryers - Standard Liege to Tottenham Hotspur – Undisclosed
4 Jan 2013 - Lewis Holtby - Schalke to Tottenham Hotspur – Free (Holtby will stay at Schalke until end of season)
28 Jan 2013 – Lewis Holtby – Schalke to Tottenham Hotspur – £1.5m (fee makes Holtby a Spurs player immediately, as of Jan 2013)
31 Jan 2013 - Alex Pritchard - Tottenham Hotspur to Peterborough – Loan
31 Jan 2013 - Heurelho Gomes - Tottenham Hotspur to Hoffenheim – Loan
31 Jan 2013 - Simon Dawkins - Tottenham Hotspur to Aston Villa – Loan
31 Jan 2013 - Jermaine Jenas - Tottenham Hotspur to QPR – Undisclosed
31 Jan 2013 - Andros Townsend - Tottenham Hotspur to QPR – Loan

Tottenham Hotspur Transfers – December 2012
31st Dec 2012 – Carlo Cudicini - Tottenham to LA Galaxy – FREE

Tottenham Hotspur Transfers – November 2012
2nd Nov 2012 – Jordan Archer - Tottenham to Wycombe – Loan

Tottenham Hotspur Transfers – October 2012
19th Oct 2012 – Jack Munns - Tottenham to Aldershot – Loan

Tottenham Hotspur Transfers – September 2012
6th September 2012 – David Bentley - Tottenham to FC Rostov – Loan
28th September 2012 – Jermaine Jenas – Tottenham to Nottingham Forest – Loan
26th September 2012 – Jordan Archer – Tottenham to Wycombe Wanderers – Loan

Tottenham Hotspur Transfers – August 2012
10th August 2012 – Ryan Fredericks – Tottenham to Brentford - Loan
21st August 2012 - Sebastien Bassong - Tottenham Hotspur to Norwich City – Undisclosed
21st August 2012 - Emmanuel Adebayor - Manchester City to Tottenham – Undisclosed
27th August 2012 – Luka Modric – Tottenham to Real Madrid – £30million
28th August 2012 – David Button - Tottenham to Charlton – Undisclosed
29th August 2012 - Moussa Dembele - Fulham to Tottenham – £15million
30th August 2012 – John Bostock - Tottenham to Swindon – Loan
31st August 2012 - Danny Rose - Tottenham Hotspur to Sunderland – Loan
31st August 2012 – Rafael van der Vaart - Tottenham to Hamburg – £10million
31st August 2012 – Hugo Lloris – Lyon to Tottenham Hotspur – £11.8million
31st August 2012 - Harry Kane - Tottenham Hotspur to Norwich City – Loan
31st August 2012 – Giovani Dos Santos - Tottenham to Real Mallorca – Undisclosed
31st August 2012 - Clint Dempsey - Fulham to Tottenham Hotspur – £6million

Tottenham Hotspur Transfers – July 2012
3rd July 2012 – Lee Angol – Tottenham to Wycombe Wanderers - Undisclosed
4th July 2012 – Gylfi Sigurdsson – Hoffenheim to Tottenham – £8million
5th July 2012 – Ben Alnwick - Tottenham to Barnsley - Free
9th July 2012 – Jan Vertonghen – Ajax to Tottenham – Undisclosed
24th July 2012 – Massimo Luongo – Tottenham Hotspur to Ipswich Town - Loan
31st July 2012 – Steven Pienaar – Tottenham Hotspur to Everton - £4.5m
3rd July - AVB OFFICIALLY SIGNS
Tottenham Hotspur Transfers – June 2012
7th June 2012 - Niko Kranjcar – Tottenham Hotspur to Dynamo Kiev – Undisclosed

 

[mill]

Wise words mate and I agree. I was more commenting on the transfers though. Levy the arch negotiator has become a joke IMO.

He has done well for the club, there is no doubt about that. But I am worried for the future when avb tires of his meddling and penny pinching. Where did the money go that we bid for mounthinio in the summer?

Enic won't invest their own money on players it's all about the new stadium and selling us for a return on their investment

 

[duffster]

Completely agree with this.

Not directed at anyone specific on here but that attitude prevails in my corner of WHL - frankly it stinks. Change for change's sake does not equal progress.

We need cover for Ade & Defoe. Even if we are going to play 1 upfront that still means to need someone on the bench and a 3rd striker to cover injuries, it's why all clubs have a 3rd Keeper and 3 keepers are picked to go to World Cups/Euros. The 3rd striker does not need to be the best player in the club he just has to be good enough to do that job whilst Ade or Defoe (or both) are out.

 

[foxilator]

Top much earlier in the season though, no? We were 3rd in January with a 10 point gap between us and the scum. That is great position to be in. Everyone blames Redknapp for our subsequent slide, but IMO it wasn't so black and white.

It wasnt Levy in the dressing room at half time at the Emirates last Feb when we'd thrown away a 2 goal lead and it was clear to everyone watching that we were way too open and were going to get torn a new one.

That's where the slide started imo.

 

[Spurs1960]

He fucked up. But he wasn't the only one.

Just the responsible one.

 

[Martin Jol Loves Me]

Reading Facebook at the same time, penny pinching was from there, got em muddled but the principle is the same £54 million is hardly cautious.

In light of what other teams are spending and what some people on here "Think" we should be spending, its a drop in the ocean. But I don't know what point you are making. I think Levy is doing a good job. I am confused though as your post points in the same direction

 

[Spurs1960]

We need cover for Ade & Defoe. Even if we are going to play 1 upfront that still means to need someone on the bench and a 3rd striker to cover injuries, it's why all clubs have a 3rd Keeper and 3 keepers are picked to go to World Cups/Euros. The 3rd striker does not need to be the best player in the club he just has to be good enough to do that job whilst Ade or Defoe (or both) are out.

The cover is called Dempsey, the same as it has been to get us into 4th place, although Kane adds percieved depth, not that he will ever play.