The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The SOS Edition 14th May 2014

[Geyzer Soze]

No it doesn't? Just has to be 3-4 syllables, we're not really fussy... Harry Redknapp, avb both worked. Never heard it for Sherwood

yeah, didn't mean rhyme. 'go with' i meant really.

It's why i'm in the FDB camp. Too easy. F-D-B's Blue and White Aaaarmy!

 

[millsey]

who is ajax? can he play leftback?

Rose out Rose out

 

[millsey]

If LvG or Ancelotti is unavailable, I think it's likely going to be between Poch or FdB (even though there are still a few other possibilities like FSW). If we hire Poch or FdB, I'm sure the fans of the losing candidate will give their full support to the selected party.

Are you talking about spurs fans? I'm confused....

 

[millsey]

Obviously they have not seen the new Sainsbury's space...

But yeah spoke to a mate of mine who is a Soton supporter and he is convinced that Poch isn't going anywhere.

Prob because they now think they are on a par with us. Testimony to poch I guess. Fans with blinkers

 

[NHAndy]

Somehow I can't help thinking of Pochettino in parallel with Laudrup: Brief but moderately successful managerial career overseas then 18 months with a mid-table Premier League team. Laudrup seemed to be revered in his time at Swansea for the playing style of the team as well as a decent league position and winning the League Cup.

Then a run of poor results and shown the door. I worry that Pochettino has had that nice little run but nobody knows what lies ahead. When AVB was sacked I think there was quite a lot of talk about Laudrup in here.

(Not that FDB would necessarily be any safer a choice)...

 

[HoltbiusMac]

Somehow I can't help thinking of Pochettino in parallel with Laudrup: Brief but moderately successful managerial career overseas then 18 months with a mid-table Premier League team. Laudrup seemed to be revered in his time at Swansea for the playing style of the team as well as a decent league position and winning the League Cup.

Then a run of poor results and shown the door. I worry that Pochettino has had that nice little run but nobody knows what lies ahead. When AVB was sacked I think there was quite a lot of talk about Laudrup in here.

(Not that FDB would necessarily be any safer a choice)...

Almost everybody who has worked under Pochettino loves him though and the fans at both places do. Laudrup was apparently really aloof and not particularly bothered by the job seeing himself as above the job already. Just because they have similarities I don't think they are actually that similar.

 

[panties]

Not sure how I feel about poch tbh. Will judge on what I see if he joins us. Would prefer Benitez if truth be told

 

[cookiemonster]

Have a bad feeling about this one

We need someone with a proven record,someone who has won titles and cups,someone who is expereinced

Not someone who play nice football and has won sod all

 

[thinktank]

Rodgers had one season in the prem before he moved onto Liverpool.

Poch has proved his philosophy is adaptable to the prem over a season and half. Southampton have played some of best football in the league this year. Why couldn't he do the same to our team?

FdB has only proved he can win the league with the best team in a weak league. Managing players that have all been brought up to play football in the same academy he was. What makes you so sure he could manage a team where the majority of players haven't come through the Ajax academy? Where the players have all be brought up to play different styles of football in different academies around the world? How do you know FdBs philosophy is adaptable to the premiership? He has absolutely no experience as a manager or player here.

It's not that I don't rate FdB but those saying he is less of a risk than Poch are not basing it on much logic or tangible evidence.

There's no logic in any of their arguments. Totally irrational and totally dismissive of his attributes.

And they will look so foolish....

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Somehow I can't help thinking of Pochettino in parallel with Laudrup: Brief but moderately successful managerial career overseas then 18 months with a mid-table Premier League team. Laudrup seemed to be revered in his time at Swansea for the playing style of the team as well as a decent league position and winning the League Cup.

Then a run of poor results and shown the door. I worry that Pochettino has had that nice little run but nobody knows what lies ahead. When AVB was sacked I think there was quite a lot of talk about Laudrup in here.

(Not that FDB would necessarily be any safer a choice)...

I don't think with Laudrup it was because he had a run of bad results or was more to do with the club being concerned that he was no longer putting much effort into the coaching of the team, It was trips to Paris and sitting at his desk rather than on the coaching of the team on the training ground. That's why they started to go through a bad run of results because he was so hand off. I was reading yesterday that Redknapp at QPR has suffered the same dip when Steve Mclaren left QPR and went to Derby who finished above QPR in the end. I think one thing that has been mentioned before is that Poch is a very hard working manager and expects his players to work hard. I don't know how well that is going to go down with our players but I don't think Poch and Luadrup can be compared. Also Laudrup was at a club where the foundations had been set well before he arrived by Martinez, Sousa and Rodgers.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

The fact that so many people are worried about Poch is actually making me think that he'll do well here...

 

[Geyzer Soze]

The fact that so many people are worried about Poch is actually making me think that he'll do well here...

I was just thinking i should go have a good read of the 'why is poch so great' thread to start getting psyched for him because it looks like that's the way it's going to me

 

[bsinghd]

Not convinced with Poch and FDB is a risk too, Benitez would be best appointment. He's won trophies as a manager in different countries and can instil a winning culture and mentality within the squad which was sorely missing this season. Tottenham haven't been bred on success so it's hard for our squads to get into that mindset. Look at Chelsea when AVB was sacked and then his replacement Di Matteo also got the boot, each time the team came back and won something due to their experience regardless of who was in charge.

 

[Snarfalicious]

The fact that so many people are worried about Poch is actually making me think that he'll do well here...

The worst part is the inevitability of these same individuals using any instance where things don't go absolutely perfect to point out that "Poch isn't the right man for be job" shit. We all know it will happen. And, we all know how dumb, knee-jerk and invasive that shit can become.

 

[Yorkville Spur]

Have a bad feeling about this one

We need someone with a proven record,someone who has won titles and cups,someone who is expereinced

Not someone who play nice football and has won sod all

What we need to do, and what Levy has been trying to do for a million years now, is find the diamond in the rough before he's discovered by the mega bastard clubs. Pochettino ticks a lot of boxes--experience in the Prem, a long, distinguished playing career, a famous mentor, by all accounts he works like a dog and he seems to be able to impose his will on his players. All the ingredients are there though there are no guarantees, of course. All I ask is that Levy and company create an atmosphere for him to succeed. Again, FDB and Benitez are solid choices, too, but I can see the attraction to Pochettino by Levy/Lewis and the board.

Hell, what is it, mid-May? Even with a World Cup coming up I can't wait for the Europa qualifiers to get a sense for how this is all going to work out.

 

[anydange]

Look at Chelsea when AVB was sacked and then his replacement Di Matteo also got the boot, each time the team came back and won something due to their experience regardless of who was in charge.

Spot on! Whilst I would be fine with Poch or FdB I would love for Benitez to come in. I think he's the right man, available at the right time. We'd be silly not go for him.

 

[Blackrat1299]

It sounds like we have the committee on this site using alias's to sound out the feeling of the fans!

 

[thinktank]

how?

This is my point...

people keep telling me its proven but I honestly cannot remember 1 single Southampton game last season. Be it league or cup.

They have not excited me

Seriously, wtf Ry?? They have played blistering, high tempo, technical, uber attacking, hardcore pressing football this season. If they had had 2 or 3 stronger players in certain areas (keeper for one) and a bit more quality in depth to fill out their squad to help them pace themselves better over the season, they would have finished above us imo.

This is all very, very strange now tbh.

I know most of us have been traumatised by Timgate, but the blind refusal, by so many, to acknowledge Tino's achievements is simply bizarre. In fact, diabolical.

 

[E17yid]

I have a slight preference for Frank but I won't be disappointed if we get Poch.

If I was Levy and I had to make the call between Poch, FDB and FSW I would be as bald as him as I would have pulled my hair out with the stress. They all have their own set of pros and cons. Whichever one we appoint (looks like Poch) I'll just focus on those positives and tell myself he's the best coach in the world who'll get us top 4. Naturally whoever levy decides to not offer the job will, in my eyes, be a load of shit who wouldn't have worked out.

I fucking love being me.

 

[gregga]

One thing to put forward, and I've said it before, what arguments for FDB can be put forward that don't apply to someone like Neil Lennon?

Ajax don't play against pub teams.