The Daniel Levy thread

[Mustard]

That was the case across many forums with many stating it would never been built . It was always an odd assertion given that it this was central behind their purchase of he club and central to their objective either this.

As for Levy well he is quite clearly one of the most talented in his field and he is arguably the club's biggest asset. What I never understood is that so much unwarranted criticism was levelled at him ( when in fact much of the fault was always with the club and its capacity) but his biggest failing largely goes unnoticed.

There are loads of faults with him.

His failure to back managers. Meddling in transfers and cocking them up. Taking the highest wage of a chairman. There's loads of stuff why he is a twat.

Sometimes the stars just align. Not because of some amazing second sight of Levy though.

He's doing well infrastructure wise but player wise we seem to have kicked on when he took more of a back seat in regard to transfers.

He's not some bald deity even if he believes the hype. We should be much further down the line of where we are now under ENIC.

 

[Lilbaz]

There are loads of faults with him.

His failure to back managers. Meddling in transfers and cocking them up. Taking the highest wage of a chairman. There's loads of stuff why he is a twat.

Sometimes the stars just align. Not because of some amazing second sight of Levy though.

He's doing well infrastructure wise but player wise we seem to have kicked on when he took more of a back seat in regard to transfers.

He's not some bald deity even if he believes the hype. We should be much further down the line of where we are now under ENIC.

A lot of assumptions there.

When did he take a back seat in player negotiations? When he hired a dof?

Taking highest wage as a chairman? Think lewis and the board might have had something to say about it. At £2m a year it is a hell of a lot less than we pay agents, let alone players.

Basically we know very little of how the day to day running of spurs goes on. Until levy releases an autobiography all we will get is snippets of itk and interviews in papers with ex managers who are encouraged to twist the knife as it sells papers.

 

[fortworthspur]

he has methodically built us into a very good club without incurring huge debt. I think he's done a great job.

 

[Mustard]

I've always thought we were always a great club with an amazing history.

Although the last 16 years have been a bit barren.

Hopefully the new stadium we helped pay for will help turn this around.

Does anyone know how much ENIC put in of their own money to build it?

 

[Mullers]

I've always thought we were always a great club with an amazing history.

Although the last 16 years have been a bit barren.

Hopefully the new stadium we helped pay for will help turn this around.

Does anyone know how much ENIC put in of their own money to build it?

I have argued that the stadium is not essential for success. Even with the stadium we cannot compete financially with the richer clubs.
The keys to success is a good youth system which provides players for the first team squad.
A good coach/manager.
A good scouting network that will enable us to identify players early and buy them for cheap.
Two of those things look pretty good. Scouting network, not so much. A new DOF needs to be brought in, one that can work with Poch and one that can get on with Levy.

One trophy in 16 years and no trophy for 9 years is terrible, it's awful.
We have had sides good enough to win trophies.The trouble we have had under Poch and Redknapp is that we abandon all competitions except for the league for this bullshit champions league. The champions league is not a magic bullet for anything.

 

[Mullers]

A lot of assumptions there.

When did he take a back seat in player negotiations? When he hired a dof?

Taking highest wage as a chairman? Think lewis and the board might have had something to say about it. At £2m a year it is a hell of a lot less than we pay agents, let alone players.

Basically we know very little of how the day to day running of spurs goes on. Until levy releases an autobiography all we will get is snippets of itk and interviews in papers with ex managers who are encouraged to twist the knife as it sells papers.

I don't see why Levy should be believed and not the ex managers. I'm sure if he does release an autobiography he will work with the press to have snippets released to create headlines and increase book sales.

 

[Lilbaz]

I don't see why Levy should be believed and not the ex managers. I'm sure if he does release an autobiography he will work with the press to have snippets released to create headlines and increase book sales.

I'm saying that then you would have his side of the story. You can believe what you want but it is useful to have more of the picture.

 

[Mullers]

I'm saying that then you would have his side of the story. You can believe what you want but it is useful to have more of the picture.

When ex managers say anything against him he usually does a rebuttal anyway.

 

[kr1978]

When ex managers say anything against him he usually does a rebuttal anyway.

When? Not being snide I genuinely can't remember Levy having a dig at any of our ex managers

 

[Nerine]

What IS currently patently obvious is that seeing this particular thread bumped to the first page on the forum is fucking embarrassing.

 

[Mullers]

When? Not being snide I genuinely can't remember Levy having a dig at any of our ex managers

Without looking anything up, from memory I can remember him refuting accusations from Santini, Jol, AVB, Redknapp, Ramos and Sherwood.

 

[Mustard]

Bastard lovers of Levy UNITE!

 

[Shadydan]

I have argued that the stadium is not essential for success. Even with the stadium we cannot compete financially with the richer clubs.
The keys to success is a good youth system which provides players for the first team squad.
A good coach/manager.
A good scouting network that will enable us to identify players early and buy them for cheap.
Two of those things look pretty good. Scouting network, not so much. A new DOF needs to be brought in, one that can work with Poch and one that can get on with Levy.

One trophy in 16 years and no trophy for 9 years is terrible, it's awful.
We have had sides good enough to win trophies.The trouble we have had under Poch and Redknapp is that we abandon all competitions except for the league for this bullshit champions league. The champions league is not a magic bullet for anything.

You're still using the lack of trophies stick to beat him with

 

[Lilbaz]

You're still using the lack of trophies stick to beat him with

Tbf a football clubs success is based on trophies.
We need to start winning them. I think levy would agree with that. He is looking at long term and the academy and stadium are great but if he retires with only a couple of league cups in the cabinet he will see it as a partial failure.

 

[nicdic]

If course trophies are a barometer, but not only has he made it possible for us to compete for trophies but seems to have made us able to compete for the league title. The most competitive league in Europe, the most watched league in the world when we have no right in terms of financial power.

Of course we'd all have loved to win more trophies over the last while, but I'll take it if it means we're going to really compete at the top table over the next while.

 

[Xeeleeyid]

Tbf a football clubs success is based on trophies.
We need to start winning them. I think levy would agree with that. He is looking at long term and the academy and stadium are great but if he retires with only a couple of league cups in the cabinet he will see it as a partial failure.

To a large extent, trophies are down to luck. Take Fergie and Man U. Yeah, Fergie was a great manager and yeah, Man U spent money, but to have such a ridiculous youth crop come through at the same time is to a large extent pure luck. It's the same as the Barca team of the last decade. They've had a few different managers and a few different high profile signings but ultimately its down to the fact that Messi, Iniesta, Basquets, Xavi and Puyol all came through around the same time.

Similarly, Arsenal gambled on Wenger at a time when extensive foreign scouting networks, dietary and fitness levels and sports science and psychology were behind in English football. The stars just aligned.

 

[Shadydan]

Tbf a football clubs success is based on trophies.
We need to start winning them. I think levy would agree with that. He is looking at long term and the academy and stadium are great but if he retires with only a couple of league cups in the cabinet he will see it as a partial failure.

You can hardly blame Levy for that especally when Mullers admits that we've had sides capable of winning trophies...how is that the chairman's fault?

Also there's an element of luck winning a trophy, the most important thing is that wr'be remained competetive and we have improved year on year.

 

[Lilbaz]

Don't take it as a knock to levy. Yes part of it is luck, part of it down to chelsea and city winning the lottery and many other reasons.

Just saying that he has done a great job but we need to win some trophies for him to be remembered as a great chairman. Hopefully this year we can get one.

 

[Trix]

To a large extent, trophies are down to luck. Take Fergie and Man U. Yeah, Fergie was a great manager and yeah, Man U spent money, but to have such a ridiculous youth crop come through at the same time is to a large extent pure luck. It's the same as the Barca team of the last decade. They've had a few different managers and a few different high profile signings but ultimately its down to the fact that Messi, Iniesta, Basquets, Xavi and Puyol all came through around the same time.

Similarly, Arsenal gambled on Wenger at a time when extensive foreign scouting networks, dietary and fitness levels and sports science and psychology were behind in English football. The stars just aligned.

You don't win league titles because of luck!

 

[Ribble]

Tbf a football clubs success is based on trophies.
We need to start winning them. I think levy would agree with that. He is looking at long term and the academy and stadium are great but if he retires with only a couple of league cups in the cabinet he will see it as a partial failure.

He's only 54, could be chairman for another 30 years if he was so inclined!