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'O Zio

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Hard to see a good fit for the RM job right now. But some big clubs have made some strange decisions lately.

Tuchel seems a really bad fit for the player power at PSG, if they’d waited, Zidane would have been a better fit. Bayern had a whole season to figure out who to get and ended up with Kovac, when they could have had Tuchel or Sarri or possibly Conti.

I think Emery is a decent choice at Arsenal, but they could have had Tuchel earlier lined up or Sarri now if they’d waited.

Agree. Tuchel is just totally the wrong fit for PSG and I can't imagine him lasting there all that long. I'm not entirely sure about Zidane as a manager but he would probably be a good fit for PSG for much the same reason he's a decent fit for Madrid i.e. his reputation means he gets the respect of the players and he doesn't pester them too much just lets them do their thing within reason.

I think Pochettino would be a bit daft to take the RM job, it’s a poor ideological match. Managing ageing egos really isn’t his thing and he’d have to do the treble every year for three years to be considered a success.

I’m sure he’d like them on his CV at some point, but now really isn’t the time is it?

Spot on. I understand it's hard to turn them down because it's probably the most presigious job in football but at the end of the day he just doesn't suit their dressing room at all. He's clearly a real coach of a manager and likes to be properly hands on and improve the players, but half the Madrid squad have such big egos they don't think there's anything they need to learn. Remember when Benitez was there? He tried to coach them and they just openly laughed in his face and told him what can you possibly teach us. I can imagine similar happening with Poch. He had a few of those type of players at Spurs when he took over and got rid of them as soon as possible. The trouble is, at Madrid the star players are bigger than the manager so he won't be able to just chuck Ronaldo etc. out of the club, he'll have to pander to them.
 

VegasII

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Clearly Madrid need to look a little further...

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UncleBuck

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Brave appointment from Derby and I do applaud them, it’s great to see a club take a fresh approach as opposed to appointing Allerdyce/Pardew et al.
We moan constantly that we don’t give young English managers a chance and we’ve now had Gerrard, Barton and Lampard get jobs over the last few weeks.
Great for English football if you ask me, let’s hope they don’t knob it up as I’d love to see more English managers in the prem league.
 

Pellshek

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We know Poch, so we love him, but objectively, from the outside, what makes him more attractive than, say, Conte, Allegri or Wenger?

Conte has won, what, 4 League titles in 5 years or something? Ditto Allegri. Wenger is one of the most widely respected and well known coaches in the world. We know dreamboat Poch is dreamboat, but I can imagine your average Madrid fan saying, "Who?" Or, at least, "meh". Objectively, it's pretty hard to justify him being such a red-hot #1 choice.
 

beats1

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Brave appointment from Derby and I do applaud them, it’s great to see a club take a fresh approach as opposed to appointing Allerdyce/Pardew et al.
We moan constantly that we don’t give young English managers a chance and we’ve now had Gerrard, Barton and Lampard get jobs over the last few weeks.
Great for English football if you ask me, let’s hope they don’t knob it up as I’d love to see more English managers in the prem league.
I cant agree one bit, this a hire like Pardew and Allardyce, its because he knows the right people he got his job.

He hasnt exactly done anything to show he may be a good manager. He has started coaching and worked his way up
 
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We know Poch, so we love him, but objectively, from the outside, what makes him more attractive than, say, Conte, Allegri or Wenger?

Conte has won, what, 4 League titles in 5 years or something? Ditto Allegri. Wenger is one of the most widely respected and well known coaches in the world. We know dreamboat Poch is dreamboat, but I can imagine your average Madrid fan saying, "Who?" Or, at least, "meh". Objectively, it's pretty hard to justify him being such a red-hot #1 choice.
From the madrid POV, he took them to task in the CL
 

Sweetsman

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A lot of this stuff about Poch has to do with Perez being caught out by Zidane's decision, so Marca are trying to counter that. There's a lot of post hoc rationalisation for a series of unexpected events: Bale's impact, postmatch comments by Bale and Ronaldo, Zidane resigning. Of course, I could end up with egg on my face and a broken heart if Pochettino does a volte face and signs for them. He has a book signing today in Barcelona today, doesn't he? He will face a few questions then. He will have betrayed the trust of a lot of people, such as Lloris, if he does go.
 

allatsea

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Brave appointment from Derby and I do applaud them, it’s great to see a club take a fresh approach as opposed to appointing Allerdyce/Pardew et al.
We moan constantly that we don’t give young English managers a chance and we’ve now had Gerrard, Barton and Lampard get jobs over the last few weeks.
Great for English football if you ask me, let’s hope they don’t knob it up as I’d love to see more English managers in the prem league.

Agree with you except the likes of Gerard and Lampard have not done any real coaching or been a number two anywhere. Only in professional football do you get the top job at a club without having demonstrated your ability as a coach or a number two. Madness.
 

wirE

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Agree with you except the likes of Gerard and Lampard have not done any real coaching or been a number two anywhere. Only in professional football do you get the top job at a club without having demonstrated your ability as a coach or a number two. Madness.

Couldn't agree more. There's that saying that your reputation precedes you. I think Derby has gone with that
 

Mullers

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I'm glad ZZ left on his own terms, all the speculation about his job was disrespectful. Hope they hire a really shit manager.
 

Pellshek

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"Yes, ZZ left because he felt he didn't have any real control over what was happening at Real...but wouldn't you like to be our manager?"

Not a great prospectus.
 
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