The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Hercules]

you are stretching

I am being a realist and logical. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I think the answer could lie somewhere in the middle. Poch is a class guy, he is not going to bad mouth the club or Levy in public. But, that does not mean he is happy with the business the club is (not) doing. Poch says what he is expected to say - because its in his best interest.

If he has to go into the season with the players he has - he wants them thinking positively - not having a negative attitude that the club is settling for poor options.

 

[Shadydan]

We lack a few players! We know we are a very good time, but those 'few players' is the difference. And in that I mean players within our budget.

But that's obvious to everyone though, we do lack players but it sounds to me as if he understands the situation at Spurs. I' would love to know how that quote matches up to him being frustrated with Levy despite there being a selection of quotes you could have chosen which contradicts your opinion...strangely you chose that one.

 

[Hercules]

But that's obvious to everyone though, we do lack players but it sounds to me as if he understands the situation at Spurs. I' would love to know how that quote matches up to him being frustrated with Levy despite there being a selection of quotes you could have chosen which contradicts your opinion...strangely you chose that one.

My frustration comes through when we are so close, we do not follow up. Think back when Harry needed couple signings to push us on, before the England stuff begun. We came 3rd season before last, and did not really imho back the manager the way we should. And I do not buy the Sissoko argument neither in whole. We finished 2nd and I wonder if our Daniel to keep the cheque book closed, and pray Poch does it again.

Hopefully you can understand my mindset now.

 

[Mustard]

Poxit begins...

Thanks Dan

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

But that's obvious to everyone though, we do lack players but it sounds to me as if he understands the situation at Spurs. I' would love to know how that quote matches up to him being frustrated with Levy despite there being a selection of quotes you could have chosen which contradicts your opinion...strangely you chose that one.

TBF you, me and everyone else has no idea what 'the situation at Spurs' actually is. It's very strange how, for example, people use the stadium as the, or one of the reasons we aren't active in the transfer market and Levy saying the new stadium won't effect transfers gets ignored. It's either an issue or not, who knows, but people shouldn't pretend they know what the situation is, because, to be honest, the only ones that do are either very very bald and short or fucking good looking and metrosexual. I wouldn't write anything off

I guess what I'm trying to say is if you can make an assumption one way then a similar leap of faith in the other direction shouldn't be so readily dismissed. Or something like that, I haven't taken my tablets yet. EDIT: Fucks sakes I have no idea what i'm talking about

 

[ebzrascal]

My frustration comes through when we are so close, we do not follow up. Think back when Harry needed couple signings to push us on, before the England stuff begun. We came 3rd season before last, and did not really imho back the manager the way we should. And I do not buy the Sissoko argument neither in whole. We finished 2nd and I wonder if our Daniel to keep the cheque book closed, and pray Poch does it again.

Hopefully you can understand my mindset now.

I totally agree with this and I am wondering if Poch and Levy actually lack the ambition to take that final step and win things.
We are so close and this position will not last forever especially if we are not successful. Like you say we had a very good team under Harry and failed to push to the next level. A bit of me would like the media and the likes of talksport to put some pressure on Levy and challenge him to do more.

The stadium is great and an important step but it is not more important than success on the pitch. We as fans are not asking for crazy signings but when we don't do deals for quality players at around the £25 million mark it is frankly embarrassing.

The £800 million stadium cost seems to include a ton of flats and other developments which I am sure will be sold off very quickly at a good profit. I would be interested to know how much the actual stadium cost to build as I am thinking it would be quite a bit less than the full development costs.

We have taken in probably £80-90 million in player sales this summer plus we probably will have £90 million more from Tv alone next season. I am thinking we will also make a few quid from being at Wembley, surely we can afford a few exciting to energise the fan base and strengthen the squad. If we cannot identify players to challenge the first team then what exactly are our scouts doing!!

I like Poch but he needs to stop talking like we have the best squad in the league as we didn't win the title and we flopped in europe, We obviously need improvements and if he does not see it that is very disappointing.

 

[Hercules]

I totally agree with this and I am wondering if Poch and Levy actually lack the ambition to take that final step and win things.
We are so close and this position will not last forever especially if we are not successful. Like you say we had a very good team under Harry and failed to push to the next level. A bit of me would like the media and the likes of talksport to put some pressure on Levy and challenge him to do more.

The stadium is great and an important step but it is not more important than success on the pitch. We as fans are not asking for crazy signings but when we don't do deals for quality players at around the £25 million mark it is frankly embarrassing.

The £800 million stadium cost seems to include a ton of flats and other developments which I am sure will be sold off very quickly at a good profit. I would be interested to know how much the actual stadium cost to build as I am thinking it would be quite a bit less than the full development costs.

We have taken in probably £80-90 million in player sales this summer plus we probably will have £90 million more from Tv alone next season. I am thinking we will also make a few quid from being at Wembley, surely we can afford a few exciting to energise the fan base and strengthen the squad. If we cannot identify players to challenge the first team then what exactly are our scouts doing!!

I like Poch but he needs to stop talking like we have the best squad in the league as we didn't win the title and we flopped in europe, We obviously need improvements and if he does not see it that is very disappointing.

Poch won't rock the boat. If anyone actually really believe that he is happy with the squad, they are well and truly misguided.

 

[thebenjamin]

Poch won't rock the boat. If anyone actually really believe that he is happy with the squad, they are well and truly misguided.

He may not rock the boat, but there are a good few clubs in Europe who'd give him a blank chequebook to sign who he wanted. PSG I'm sure would give him unlimited funds to have a go at the CL.

 

[Krule]

He may not rock the boat, but there are a good few clubs in Europe who'd give him a blank chequebook to sign who he wanted. PSG I'm sure would give him unlimited funds to have a go at the CL.

That's very,very true but fortunately for us that is not the type of manager he is. He truly believes in building a dynasty of success by developing young players and creating a team spirit which is second to none. Mourinho and others may like splashing the cash and bringing in established players for phenomenal fees and admittedly it has proved a successful recipe for winning trophies.Poch however, is a purist..somebody who gains more personal satisfaction from seeing a player like Dele Alli become the player he is today under his guidance rather than be paid a massive salary for spending a totally disgusting fortune in the transfer market on whoever is top of the current listings.
I truly admire the guy for his beliefs but we must accept that we live in a demanding world and unless some sort of trophy comes to the club soon then our star players will naturally look to pastures new for the success they crave. He needs to temper his reluctance to buy talent rather than nurture it...accept that there are certain weaknesses within the squad and we must fill the gap immediately rather than try and allow someone to grow into it over a couple of seasons.
We have a marvellous opportunity to maintain the pace of growth shown recently...let's not slip back into mid table mediocrity but continue to be a major title challenger. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and realise the limitations of the team you currently have....but if buying one or two players could prove to be that crucial stepping stone to actually lifting a trophy then do it and show the same conviction in your purchasing beliefs as you do in your ability to develop talent.

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

http://www.espnfc.us/english-premie...46/mauricio-pochettino-joins-the-espn-fc-desk

Great interview and the manager just oozes class (and sweat )

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

and Levy saying the new stadium won't effect transfers gets ignored. It's either an issue or not, who knows,

You keep bringing this up - but the answer has never changed. "Technically" the stadium has no impact on transfer strategy because transfers are funded by outgoing sales. There is probably a small percentage of revenue that is devoted to transfer sales and new contract - but that percentage is very small, and pales in comparison to other teams.

The reason the percentage is small is so that the club can fund the debt on building the new stadium. But, the policy has been in place for years, so that there is no change in the transfer policy as a result of the new stadium. I imagine the percentages of revenue devoted to debt retirement and to transfers will remain unchanged for the foreseeable future - what will change is the revenue - so the transfer budget will increase over time.

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

I totally agree with this and I am wondering if Poch and Levy actually lack the ambition to take that final step and win things.
We are so close and this position will not last forever especially if we are not successful. Like you say we had a very good team under Harry and failed to push to the next level. A bit of me would like the media and the likes of talksport to put some pressure on Levy and challenge him to do more.

The stadium is great and an important step but it is not more important than success on the pitch. We as fans are not asking for crazy signings but when we don't do deals for quality players at around the £25 million mark it is frankly embarrassing.

The £800 million stadium cost seems to include a ton of flats and other developments which I am sure will be sold off very quickly at a good profit. I would be interested to know how much the actual stadium cost to build as I am thinking it would be quite a bit less than the full development costs.

We have taken in probably £80-90 million in player sales this summer plus we probably will have £90 million more from Tv alone next season. I am thinking we will also make a few quid from being at Wembley, surely we can afford a few exciting to energise the fan base and strengthen the squad. If we cannot identify players to challenge the first team then what exactly are our scouts doing!!

I like Poch but he needs to stop talking like we have the best squad in the league as we didn't win the title and we flopped in europe, We obviously need improvements and if he does not see it that is very disappointing.

Give me strength, Poch and Levy are holding us back

Honestly, sometimes I do wonder how some people don't realise how lucky we are. You could be an Oxford United fan or Plymouth Argyle. Perspective is lost on some I guess

 

[ebzrascal]

That's very,very true but fortunately for us that is not the type of manager he is. He truly believes in building a dynasty of success by developing young players and creating a team spirit which is second to none. Mourinho and others may like splashing the cash and bringing in established players for phenomenal fees and admittedly it has proved a successful recipe for winning trophies.Poch however, is a purist..somebody who gains more personal satisfaction from seeing a player like Dele Alli become the player he is today under his guidance rather than be paid a massive salary for spending a totally disgusting fortune in the transfer market on whoever is top of the current listings.
I truly admire the guy for his beliefs but we must accept that we live in a demanding world and unless some sort of trophy comes to the club soon then our star players will naturally look to pastures new for the success they crave. He needs to temper his reluctance to buy talent rather than nurture it...accept that there are certain weaknesses within the squad and we must fill the gap immediately rather than try and allow someone to grow into it over a couple of seasons.
We have a marvellous opportunity to maintain the pace of growth shown recently...let's not slip back into mid table mediocrity but continue to be a major title challenger. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and realise the limitations of the team you currently have....but if buying one or two players could prove to be that crucial stepping stone to actually lifting a trophy then do it and show the same conviction in your purchasing beliefs as you do in your ability to develop talent.

We all due respect Poch is not the only coach who improves younger players and you could argue that there a number clubs around Europe and even a club like Southampton who do it far better than we do on a lower budget.

In my view we still don't attract the players we should do for our size. We should be taking more chances on players around the age of 19/20 if we don't want to pay fees over £20 million

 

[ebzrascal]

Give me strength, Poch and Levy are holding us back

Honestly, sometimes I do wonder how some people don't realise how lucky we are. You could be an Oxford United fan or Plymouth Argyle. Perspective is lost on some I guess

I know some spurs fans are happy seeing good football and coming we second and getting to semis every now and again. But after seeing Leicester win the league id quite like to see us get a title before I'm too old to know what day it is... I see us squandering chances when our rivals were weaker than normal. I see next season as a big chance especially as City and Many U will have many new players to integrate. Does Levy want to win as much as the fans do? I'm not sure the answer is yes...

 

[shelfboy68]

My frustration comes through when we are so close, we do not follow up. Think back when Harry needed couple signings to push us on, before the England stuff begun. We came 3rd season before last, and did not really imho back the manager the way we should. And I do not buy the Sissoko argument neither in whole. We finished 2nd and I wonder if our Daniel to keep the cheque book closed, and pray Poch does it again.

Hopefully you can understand my mindset now.

This has been the frustration for years we get close to stuff and then it's like levy shits himself and says " oh no I can't have good old spurs finishing that high".
All seems odd as we are not too far away in reality.

 

[Hercules]

This has been the frustration for years we get close to stuff and then it's like levy shits himself and says " oh no I can't have good old spurs finishing that high".
All seems odd as we are not too far away in reality.

Levy imho is brilliant on stadium etc. That is his expertise. Player acquisition he is not. I get the feeling he would love Poch tonrepest his acts with zero spend. If he sells and brings in X monies, half, or less would be his budget, which includes wages. All opinion though.

 

[Gb160]

This has been the frustration for years we get close to stuff and then it's like levy shits himself and says " oh no I can't have good old spurs finishing that high".
All seems odd as we are not too far away in reality.

Yes thats probably it, Levy doesn't want us to win anything.
Jesus Christ.

 

[Dennism]

I know some spurs fans are happy seeing good football and coming we second and getting to semis every now and again. But after seeing Leicester win the league id quite like to see us get a title before I'm too old to know what day it is... I see us squandering chances when our rivals were weaker than normal. I see next season as a big chance especially as City and Many U will have many new players to integrate. Does Levy want to win as much as the fans do? I'm not sure the answer is yes...

I am not a critic of Levy and back Poch all the way. However, I must admit a certain envy for Leicester fans. They have seen their team win the league and, as I near my sixties, I doubt if I will ever see Spurs win it.

 

[shelfboy68]

Yes thats probably it, Levy doesn't want us to win anything.
Jesus Christ.

Shove a tampon in love no one is interested in your constant whining of anyone's comments on here goodbye.