The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[ChristianBaler]

Poch's coaching style ie implementing his ideas onto his player doesnt suit the knee jerk board of Real Madrid. He'd have to completely change his philosophy and their fans/board do not have the patience to deal with that type of set up

 

[Gareth88]

It’s possible.
I think he’d be fantastic there, actually. With proper backing, you could see him winning lots of trophies and being there for years.
While we watch from the sidelines, pootling around in mid table in a big half empty stadium.....

Cheaper Season Tickets?

 

[cliff jones]

I don't really think u can use this game as an example of that, aside from perhaps playing Dembele.

His alternative to Dier is Wanyama...
His alternative to Trippier is Aurier...
His alternative to Davies is injured...
His alternative to Kane is Llorente...

Not the lineup I wanted to see today but he really doesn't have many options.

he should have picked Aurier or KWP this evening

 

[Davo99]

Pochettino isn’t going go to Madrid. He’s Levy’s dream man. Just like Wenger was a dream for the Arsenal board and shareholders.

 

[bubble07]

Poch has been with us through shit times. He won't leave us just yet. He will give it another full season minimum. Madrid sacking now is ideal as they will appoint Conte on a massive contract

 

[Dov67]

Poch has been with us through shit times. He won't leave us just yet. He will give it another full season minimum. Madrid sacking now is ideal as they will appoint Conte on a massive contract

never worried about him leaving before, but I am worried now, and not about Real Madrid, who I never thought he was suited to in any case.

It's Man U in the summer after the Mourinho leaves that has me a little on edge.

 

[THX2208]

This is not good guys. I'm sure I'm not the only one but I can actually feel that something is very very wrong at our Club at the moment. No new players and playing at Wembley is certainly not ideal.

I really hope we just get through to New Year, get into the New Stadium and maybe sign a decent player when the window opens.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I really hope we just get through to New Year, get into the New Stadium and maybe sign a decent player when the window opens.

Think you need to look up what the word just means.

 

[Davo99]

What did you expect?

I don’t think Poch has even been subtle about displaying his frustration and disappointment at how things have gone.

If we are all honest with ourselves - he deserves to leave.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Poch's coaching style ie implementing his ideas onto his player doesnt suit the knee jerk board of Real Madrid. He'd have to completely change his philosophy and their fans/board do not have the patience to deal with that type of set up

Agree, it's really hard to see any way they make a good fit.

 

[Lighty64]

I can't believe Levy is getting blamed for the total omni-shambles which MACE have made of the stadium delivery. If anyone seriously believes Levy has instigated this situation for some weird reason which you've concocted inside your head, you need to get your f**king bonce seeing to.

Jesus people!!!

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the only thing I believe he was at fault on this was he should of made it 2 years from the very start but to want it finished early enough to hold test events and solve any problems in time for next season. if it could of been finished early enough they could of used it for concerts and other events to cover the cost until it was time to move in officially.

by the time we move out of Wembley we won't be far off of what it cost to rent for the whole season, we wouldn't of suffered restricted attendances, and they wouldn't of held the NFL matches there, they would of most probably switched them to Twickers

 

[THX2208]

Real Madrid are a win at all cost type of club. Their setup is completely different to every other club besides Barcelona. The fans appoint a President. Most times the new President will just fire the Manager for no good reason and you could have just won the League & the Champions League, it still won't matter you'll still get fired. Definitely not the sort of project that Pochettino would want to take on.

 

[Lighty64]

Nah, we don't know anything about him really.
If the new owners say 'You have x amount to use strengthening the squad'...he'll obviously spend it.
We've only ever known on him operating at the end of Joe Lewis' leash.

He knows the business backwards, I'd be amazed if new owners got shot of him if they had the choice.

they can only get rid of him properly by buying his shares which means he would be there in some capacity, though if he is wanting to stay, perhaps that's one of the hurdles that has cost us new owners

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

This is not good guys. I'm sure I'm not the only one but I can actually feel that something is very very wrong at our Club at the moment. No new players and playing at Wembley is certainly not ideal.

I really hope we just get through to New Year, get into the New Stadium and maybe sign a decent player when the window opens.

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Oh WOW!!!!

I can't believe nobody brought this up earlier. this is BIG news!

 

[phil]

Poch is now 3/1 (down from 25/1 this morning) favourite to take over at Real Madrid. I'm not sure that Real Madrid would give him the time he would need to revamp their aging squad but Perez would definitely support him in the transfer market. If he goes there, expect a few players to follow.

His recent comments about the club (i.e. Levy) not being focused on winning trophies and the Daily Mail article (no doubt leaked by Donna) about Poch being happy for Levy to be blamed for the inactivity in the transfer market, suggest that all is not well in the relationship between Poch and Levy. Given the recent comments from both sides, I think 3/1 is a good bet.

Unfortunately, it will be a disaster for the club.

 

[Lighty64]

I can't believe that no one has mentioned his pre match interview, he put the reasons for his unhappiness and to be honest never sounded like he was looking for a route out. don't know if it can be found, I can't, but I listened to it, and Shreaves tweet was very minimal to what was said

 

[DCSPUR]

I can't believe that no one has mentioned his pre match interview, he put the reasons for his unhappiness and to be honest never sounded like he was looking for a route out. don't know if it can be found, I can't, but I listened to it, and Shreaves tweet was very minimal to what was said

right and this post match one doesn't sound like a man on the outs:


Am also hoping that Ossie (who must have a better insight to Poch's thinking than most) is confident he is staying.
And for context on their relationship:
https://twitter.com/barclaysfooty/status/487619896658755585?lang=en

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

I can't believe that no one has mentioned his pre match interview, he put the reasons for his unhappiness and to be honest never sounded like he was looking for a route out. don't know if it can be found, I can't, but I listened to it, and Shreaves tweet was very minimal to what was said

I think he's very diplomatic, but looking at his comments from the end of last season about being bold, through to the various comments this season his attitude has clearly changed. So has the mentality of the squad, best start or otherwise. Neither was an issue before this season.

I think only a fool would think he's got no problem with us not signing players and pushing on. What he has now is a thankless task. He wants to win things but I think he's probably realising Levy is more content with him being a Wenger. Get us top four and keep the bucks rolling in - and do it all on hardly any money at all. But if that is what Levy thinks, and history shows it is judging by his failure to back Redknapp or AVB when they asked for it, and selling our front line and leaving Ramos with no attack, then he's living in a fantasy world. He's bungled the stadium timetable, ripped off us season ticket holders and failed to back his manager. I am one of Levy's biggest defenders and the upgrade in stadium and training ground WILL have a much needed lasting legacy in the long term. But let's not kid ourselves that in the short term Levy hasn't fucked over manager after manager. We know he has.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

I think we need to go back to what was said in May:

From a position of strength, Pochettino sent a message to Levy that sounded suspiciously like an ultimatum: if the club want to take the next step to the biggest trophies, they have to invest more lavishly in top signings.

Pochettino was asked whether he would definitely be at the club next season. He had been asked the same question last Friday and, once again, he gave an ambiguous answer.

“I repeat from my last press conference – today, 100% I feel that I am here,” he said. “But the most important thing is that tomorrow all can change because it’s not in my hands.”

Pochettino needed no second invitation to enter into great detail about how the club could improve. “I have very clear ideas of what we need to do,” Pochettino said. “I don’t know if the club will agree with me or not. We are going to talk next week to create the new project. It is a little bit up to Daniel and the club to agree with us.

“If we want to be real contenders for big trophies, we need to review a little bit the thing. We need to create dreams that will be possible to achieve. Maybe we are a bit disappointed and frustrated because now we are close [to trophies].

“I think Daniel is going to listen to me, of course. You need to be brave. Being brave is the most important thing and take risks. I think it’s a moment that the club needs to take risks and tries to work, if possible, harder than the previous season to be competitive again, because every season will be more difficult. It’s not only the big clubs. The clubs in behind us like Everton, West Ham or Leicester – they are working so hard to be close to the top six.”


Tie that with the comments that came out in the last few days:

Before the daunting task of facing Manchester City at Wembley on Monday, it was intriguing to hear the former Argentina defender’s assessment of the campaign.

“I don’t know why, it is difficult to explain,” Pochettino said. “The circumstances, because many things happen; I am disappointed we are still waiting for the new stadium when the expectation was to be there at the beginning of the season. I don’t know, many things happened in the summer, many things that make myself not in my best mood or best humour. I know I always have a good relationship with you but my feeling is not the best feeling. I had better feelings in previous seasons.”

“The circumstance that happened in the last years, I think the club is not focused completely in winning titles or winning games,” Pochettino admitted. “We have a lot of focus and you know very well when you are competing with sides, like we are in Champions League and Premier League, the most important thing is to fight in the same conditions as others.

“But the club needs to be all focused in trying to win titles. Because today we need to fix other problems and different circumstances that happen that don’t help the team or the club to only be focused on winning titles. Sometimes people expect that we should be winning or we must win titles when the circumstances are not ideal. To go further, you know better than us.”

As he acknowledged, a new stadium is no guarantee of success – especially against the spending power of a team such as City.

“I don’t have the answer how we are going to act when we are going to move there. It is easy to see in the last few years how we act in front of the market, how we act in front of everything and how the other teams were acting. That is the difference. Everything is not perfect but we are in a circumstance and a project that is completely different to another club, at the moment. But maybe when we arrive at the new stadium maybe we will be in the same project, have the same resources as different teams like Liverpool, Man City, United, Chelsea or Arsenal. The way we have been competing in the last few years, the frustration is massive because we have had less in every single aspect.”

He couldn't be much clearer, Real come calling he's gone imo.

 

[Davo99]

I think the fundamental problems at Tottenham stem from those running the club and if I’m being totally honest with myself, it would be unfair to stand in Poch’s way should he wish to leave for either Madrid or Man United. I’d be absolutely gutted, but he would deserve it.

What I’m worried about is if we lose Poch and end up going backwards, or at least set back a couple of seasons with a new manager coming in and the transition that brings, that we indeed won’t win anything with this very talented group of players and we are really going to be cementing the reputation of legends, of nearly men, the whole Spursy thing. The more it goes on, the more it will be ingrained. A lot of football is psychological and the need to rid ourselves of this tag and reputation is almighty and the time really is now. I fear if we go those two steps back, we will never really recover, mentally as a club. As crazy as that sounds I genuinely believe that. The pressures and players mental strength is a huge part of football but I can’t help but fear it’s our greatest struggle.

To think we haven’t played well all season and up until tonight were just 2 points off the top shows, to me anyway, how doable it actually is winning the league. Yet we will somehow find a way of cocking it up. Even if we were 4 clear with 2 to go. How many goals have we conceded lately that were all of our own making?

I can’t help but feel we fucked things up even more drastically than first thought in the summer. Buy s couple of players in the right areas and the lift around the club that would have come with it and who knows what might have happened. The nervousness in the market set a precedent for the season so far. The whole handling of the stadium has been embarrassing. It’s very, very disappointing and I’ve never really been a critic of Levy and co. much in the past.