The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[BringBack_leGin]

Guys, it’s Neil Ashton. Guy has no credibility.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Man Utd for Poche is the most obvious thing since the sun came up this morning. It's going to happen as soon as Jose walks. He's Fergies choice as well.

It will be a long transfer window when that happens.

 

['O Zio]

Why would he move to a club lower in the league, where he would have less control that he has now and a defence that is in a shambles. He’s staying

Because they're a massively bigger club than us with vastly more prestige and money. They're stuck in a bit of a rut at the moment but once they turn that around then it's by far and away a better job than the Spurs job. Just as Leicester winning the league once doesn't suddenly make them a top club, just because Utd have been in a transition period for the past 4-5 years doesn't undo everything they've done over the past 2 or 3 decades.

I'm not saying he'll go there. For what it's worth I don't think he will, at least not yet, but to make out like we're a more attractive job than Man Utd is ridiculous IMO.

 

[danielneeds]

Not worried in the slightest by Utd (or even RM). People should be more focused on Poch's actual quotes from last week, hinting his desire to manage in Italy. He holds the Italian culture in high regard due to his ancestral roots and even referred to it feeling like home when we he was interviewed ahead of last season's game vs Juventus.

I genuinely think this is where his next job will be.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....hettino-reveals-ambition-to-manage-in-serie-a

Mauricio Pochettino says it would be a "wonderful experience" to manage in Italy in the future, but has insisted he is currently happy at Tottenham and targeted winning the Premier League title in the club's new stadium.

The Argentine signed a new five-year contract in May and has since guided Tottenham to their best start to a Premier League season, having won 10 of their opening 13 matches which has left them in third place.
Ahead of Wednesday's crucial Champions League group match against Inter Milan on Wednesday, Pochettino admitted his ambition to one day manage in Serie A as well as take charge of the Argentina national team.

"My contract expires in four-and-a-half years - if [Spurs chairman Daniel] Levy does not fire me first," Pochettino told Gazzetta dello Sport.
"Seriously, today I see myself here. I dream of winning a trophy with Tottenham, maybe the Premier League in our new stadium.

Pochettino has guided Tottenham to their best-ever start to a Premier League season

"In the future to also manage the Argentine team is my desire.

"The important thing is to be happy and I am right now. Me in Serie A? I have Italian origins and it would be a wonderful experience."

He added: "Argentines and Italians are very similar, for the way we live life and for our passion for football. Clearly [to work in Italy] I would need to have a better grasp of Italian, as language is fundamental to communicate with players.

"I remember that my grandfather would speak to me quite often in Italian but I was quite young. I'd need to do a bit of practice before moving to Italy.

"Years ago there were contacts with Sampdoria. I was at Espanyol, they showed an interest but then nothing happened."

He’ll go to Italy in his later years. Same thing as Newells and Argentina. In his prime he wants to be the biggest leagues.

 

[Shadydan]

Yawn...

 

[Blackrat1299]

Yawn...

Have I missed something?

 

[Klinsmannesque]

I think he's invested too much time, energy and emotion with us to just walk away. He's a legacy manager, not a 2 season bish-bash-bosh manager and that is what he'll want to create here.

I hope.

Just start making some subs please.

 

[Shadydan]

Have I missed something?

Just tired of seeing this conversation pop up every time some rag gets a hard on about Poch going to Real or Utd, so boring

 

[fedupyid]

I believe in Poch and think he will stay. I believe Poch has a sense of loyalty. He has ruled himself out of the two big Spanish jobs because of how long he spent at Espanyol. So I think he will stay

 

[Zoltar60]

I believe in Poch and think he will stay. I believe Poch has a sense of loyalty. He has ruled himself out of the two big Spanish jobs because of how long he spent at Espanyol. So I think he will stay

He may have loyalty, he may want to go who knows but one thing is for sure he ain't going there any time soon. No way Levy would allow him to leave it's that simple, maybe if he only had a year or two left on his contract but not when he'll have 4 still left in the summer.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

I doubt he’ll go. But if he did, it’s not like we’d be sniffing around the likes of Fat Sam or Woy for a replacement, is it? We’re a serious draw now, and I don’t think it would be impossible to improve on Poch. I’d prefer him to stay for another couple of seasons, but if he wants to go, I’ll be pretty relaxed about it.

 

[Gareth88]

Let's face it, if Utd were willing to pay the massive compensation fee, they'd also be paying Poch a much higher salary than us and probably give him £500m over 2 or 3 seasons to rebuild with. Basically, they'd go all in and stump up the cash. It's a massive club and it'd be a huge draw for any manager.

There are a couple of question marks for me though...

1) Would Poch want to go there now, or would he want to spend a couple more seasons with his 'project' to see if he could win something?

2) Speaking of 'winning something', would the Man Utd board prefer to go for a tried and tested winner (like Conte or whoever)? Would they take a (admittedly small) risk on Poch?

3) What are the finances like at Utd? They were a bit underwhelming in the transfer market this summer, but that may have been because they didn't trust Jose. However, it could also mean that they don't want to spend literally hundreds of millions to rebuild. If they want Poch, they're going to have to sink £30m to £40m into a compensation package, commit to paying him £10m+ a season (plus bonuses) and potentially give assurances that they'll spend big for a squad overhaul. Do they want to do this?

So a few things to consider.

He would basically be starting fresh and have to try and implement his philosophy into the team, I think Levy as much as a tight arse as he is knows what he has in Poch and I do not seem him letting Poch have his head turned. With the new stadium and lots of sponsorship deals I think Poch will have a nice transfer budget to work with in the summer.

I think all speculation of course but he would look at United a giant of a club and think that task looks a bit much, Jose Mourinho is no doubt one of the world's most successful managers and he is having a tough time trying to steer that ship. They in my opinion are fucked for the next few years and bar a total shake up of their club are going to struggle for longer than that.

 

[THX2208]

Guys, it’s Neil Ashton. Guy has no credibility.

Could not agree with you more but what really is surprising is the amount of Liverpool fan's texting me and laughing. This is one of the reasons I really do hate them. Their supporters are vile and their club has the whole we're victims attitude. Pure scum ?

 

[THX2208]

I normally don't curse but this guy is a fucking imbecile.

 

[shelfboy68]

I doubt he’ll go. But if he did, it’s not like we’d be sniffing around the likes of Fat Sam or Woy for a replacement, is it? We’re a serious draw now, and I don’t think it would be impossible to improve on Poch. I’d prefer him to stay for another couple of seasons, but if he wants to go, I’ll be pretty relaxed about it.

Think we are seen as a good draw rather than serious as that would imply intent to win top prizes which of course we don't.
Top manager's command big budgets to Hoover up top players and then deliver the goods, I think when poch leaves in the future the club will look for a similar fit to now certainly if ENIC are still here as their MO will not change.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Think we are seen as a good draw rather than serious as that would imply intent to win top prizes which of course we don't.
Top manager's command big budgets to Hoover up top players and then deliver the goods, I think when poch leaves in the future the club will look for a similar fit to now certainly if ENIC are still here as their MO will not change.

OK, so forget the word serious, do you think we wouldn’t be able to improve on Poch? I don’t know why you brought ENIC into it, and I don’t know how you fit our purchases of Sissoko and Sanchez into your worldview of a unchanging ENIC MO, but that doesn’t have much relevance to my post anyway.

 

[shelfboy68]

OK, so forget the word serious, do you think we wouldn’t be able to improve on Poch? I don’t know why you brought ENIC into it, and I don’t know how you fit our purchases of Sissoko and Sanchez into your worldview of a unchanging ENIC MO, but that doesn’t have much relevance to my post anyway.

Like I said if poch leaves it will be a poch mk 2 and as for ENIC I'm referring to the fact they own spurs so through them and levy they identify the fit of manager they require which is one that doesn't spend a lot.
As for sissoko or Sanchez I don't know what your going on about mate as i made no reference to them in my response to yours so not sure why you brought them up or where your going with it.

 

[jamesinashby]

I believe in Poch and think he will stay. I believe Poch has a sense of loyalty. He has ruled himself out of the two big Spanish jobs because of how long he spent at Espanyol. So I think he will stay

I often wonder when stories like this appear if it is false news. Whether true or false, it has given us an interesting topic to talk about. Accepting there is a modicum of truth to this, two points. My own feeling is that Poch is young enough to not rush after another job. I get the feeling he loves Spurs and the players and would love to lead them to greatness. So I feel that if he went anywhere he wouldn't look at a team in decline knowing he would have to start building a squad all over again. For what its worth, I think he would tell Utd, 'Thank you but no thanks.'

COYS

 

[brendanb50]

I agree but think it's also harsh, very rarely do we have game changers on the bench.

To me Poch is a coach, the improvement he gets out of players is phenomenal which is why I'd love to see him work with an upgrade on Aurier, Sissoko, Wanyama etc. The reality is if Spurs don't give him that opportunity Utd or Madrid will.

I think this is it and where we are:

He's a perfect fit for us - his passion, style of play and ability to work on a budget are absolutely key fits for us as a club. As well as his ability to get the most out of players. I for one don't think we can replace him at the moment.

The new stadium buys us a bit more of his time. He's invested in us as a club and we're invested in him. He wants some time in the new stadium to make something happen IMO.

Longer term to echo your last point, we need to show him we will back him. In adding quality and chances to upgrade the squad with some net spend. A few seasons in the new stadium with no real backing could get very tenuous for him. I'm sure we will but that's a scenario where i see him getting fed up of things.

 

[hellava_tough]

He would basically be starting fresh and have to try and implement his philosophy into the team, I think Levy as much as a tight arse as he is knows what he has in Poch and I do not seem him letting Poch have his head turned. With the new stadium and lots of sponsorship deals I think Poch will have a nice transfer budget to work with in the summer.

I think all speculation of course but he would look at United a giant of a club and think that task looks a bit much, Jose Mourinho is no doubt one of the world's most successful managers and he is having a tough time trying to steer that ship. They in my opinion are fucked for the next few years and bar a total shake up of their club are going to struggle for longer than that.

I hope you're right

Just think you're dismissing the allure of Man Utd a little too readily