The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[VancouverSpur]

Poch is idolized by most of us and rightly so. However we have been pretty terrible this season and gotten away with countless results when playing poorly. We have been inconsistent within the games not even across a run of games. We are great first half and shit the second or visa versa. Poch's substitutions are at times baffling and that is being kind. The buck stops with the manager in football and Poch needs to shoulder a lot of the blame.

 

[midoshairband]

this is what happens when you tell your players you’re 5-10 years from winning a league.

and when you hitch your skirt to other clubs mid season.

said it after Burnley, but this feels like the beginning of the end of the so called ‘project’.

 

[midoshairband]

We’ve failed at the last hurdle on so many different occasions. A cup final, multiple semi finals, title races...

Pochettino needs to look at himself. He has a loser’s mentality and it runs through his squad like water.

I’ve said countless times that we’ve reached our ceiling with Poch, and now we’re on the decline.

fully agree with this. we need a top level manager who has won things. and to spend about £200 million.

 

[danielneeds]

Fuck me, the state of this thread.

 

[Krule]

this is what happens when you tell your players you’re 5-10 years from winning a league.

and when you hitch your skirt to other clubs mid season.

said it after Burnley, but this feels like the beginning of the end of the so called ‘project’.

Totally agree....time the rose tinted glasses came off and even the most ardent of his followers start to realise that this guy is not the one to take us any further, with or without funding.

 

[jurgen]

Would not surprise me if by the time he goes, Poch is as derided as Redknapp was, and the goldfish will forget about the woeful lack of investment in our playing squad.

 

[jurgen]

Totally agree....time the rose tinted glasses came off and even the most ardent of his followers start to realise that this guy is not the one to take us any further, with or without funding.

Absolute rubbish and good luck finding a 'top' manager who will work with zero investment. Other clubs frantically appeal transfer bans, not self impose them.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Would not surprise me if by the time he goes, Poch is as derided as Redknapp was, and the goldfish will forget about the woeful lack of investment in our playing squad.

I think that's an easy out though, it's okay to be critical of the man in charge of the football on the pitch when he has gotten it wrong.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Absolute rubbish and good luck finding a 'top' manager who will work with zero investment. Other clubs frantically appeal transfer bans, not self impose them.

It has been widely, widely reported that Poch had money and had players offered to him. He refused each and every player he was offered.

If he truly believes that our squad couldn’t be improved with the players he was offered, that will be his downfall.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Said it before but we may as well part ways at end of season. We’ll never achieve anything with him in charge the way we operate in the transfer market (probably not with anyone else either). We’re wasting his time. He also isn’t the type of manager to tactically grind out results in order to win cups. This project we were apparently in is long dead in my opinion, if you look at our overall performance it is a shadow of two years ago.

We’re just not meant to be and as much as I really rate him this constant flirting and refusing to ever rule himself out of other jobs is starting to get on my tits considering he’s never won us anything.

 

[midoshairband]

Absolute rubbish and good luck finding a 'top' manager who will work with zero investment. Other clubs frantically appeal transfer bans, not self impose them.

the investment thing is only a part of it.

the baffling tactics and selections are down to him, as are his media soundbites reminding everyone how we’re not real challengers, fa cups/league cups dont matter, fighting for top four is our level etc etc. says it so much, the players believe it.

 

[VancouverSpur]

Poch could walk into any top job in World football. What he does with that team will determine if he can cut it as a top manager. He has had some luck with the players he has inherited at Spurs and he has worked some magic with others. I will be gutted if he leaves but I will not be surprised. The weight of uncertainty and instability of the Stadium move has no doubt had an effect.

The lack of signings was downright reckless and those chickens are coming home to roost. Even the decision to let Dembele go was madness as we needed his fortitude badly recently. However very few opportunities exist like the one at Spurs right now. Keep the core of this squad and make a few quality additions and you have an exciting team with massive potential. I think Poch would be crazy to jack it in and nothing he has said indicates he wants to. The team performance however tells a different story.

 

[SpursD22]

Poch: "I think it’s good now [that we’re in a battle for the top four] that people are going to realise our real level. I am a little bit worried about the change from the first half to the second is mental. It’s about arrogance in a bad way."

"It shows we need more. We need to increase everything. There’s been a lot of talk about being in the last step, winning some trophies. We live in the perception and reality. This is the reality. We have two faces."

"My reaction is the same as yours and our fans. It's difficult to understand the second half, the way that we started and gave the belief to Southampton. I feel so disappointed. It's a thing that worried me."

"It's impossible to perform here and in the second half perform in the opposite way. I am so, so, so disappointed. The worse thing is that we are now going to have three weeks ahead, it will be difficult to take off feeling of today."

Thoughts?

 

[jurgen]

Said it before but we may as well part ways at end of season. We’ll never achieve anything with him in charge the way we operate in the transfer market (probably not with anyone else either). We’re wasting his time. He also isn’t the type of manager to tactically grind out results in order to win cups. This project we were apparently in is long dead in my opinion, if you look at our overall performance it is a shadow of two years ago.

We’re just not meant to be and as much as I really rate him this constant flirting and refusing to ever rule himself out of other jobs is starting to get on my tits considering he’s never won us anything.

In my opinion we'll never achieve anything with the way we operate in the transfer market full stop. I think the experience of other managers, who also reached a 'glass ceiling' (made from toughened Saha and Nelsen) and a solitary League Cup in nigh on 20 years supports that.

 

[ghjk_91]

I can't believe people seem happy for him to leave. He has worked miracles with a squad that is just not as good as our competitors. He has been severely hamstrung this season with the WC, no transfers and being unlucky with injuries.

I'll be devastated if he leaves. This team needs serious investment to go to the next level and I just can't see Levy sanctioning it. We'd probably end up appointing Howe, selling a couple of players and trying to do it on the cheap. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Poch: "I think it’s good now [that we’re in a battle for the top four] that people are going to realise our real level. I am a little bit worried about the change from the first half to the second is mental. It’s about arrogance in a bad way."

"It shows we need more. We need to increase everything. There’s been a lot of talk about being in the last step, winning some trophies. We live in the perception and reality. This is the reality. We have two faces."

"My reaction is the same as yours and our fans. It's difficult to understand the second half, the way that we started and gave the belief to Southampton. I feel so disappointed. It's a thing that worried me."

"It's impossible to perform here and in the second half perform in the opposite way. I am so, so, so disappointed. The worse thing is that we are now going to have three weeks ahead, it will be difficult to take off feeling of today."

Thoughts?

Says it all, we're above our station and perhaps we forgot that, we're not entitled to fuck all, we haven't won fuck all.

 

[SugarRay]

It’s over. We are a busted flush

Top 6 is the aim next year

 

[yawa]

Poch: "I think it’s good now [that we’re in a battle for the top four] that people are going to realise our real level. I am a little bit worried about the change from the first half to the second is mental. It’s about arrogance in a bad way."

"It shows we need more. We need to increase everything. There’s been a lot of talk about being in the last step, winning some trophies. We live in the perception and reality. This is the reality. We have two faces."

"My reaction is the same as yours and our fans. It's difficult to understand the second half, the way that we started and gave the belief to Southampton. I feel so disappointed. It's a thing that worried me."

"It's impossible to perform here and in the second half perform in the opposite way. I am so, so, so disappointed. The worse thing is that we are now going to have three weeks ahead, it will be difficult to take off feeling of today."

Thoughts?

Fine and I don’t disagree. But end of the day it’s his job to make sure that doesn’t happen. Buck stops with him essentially.

Everyone knew Southampton wouldn’t be as shit as they were in the first half but we didn’t seem to realise that.

Odd and just not good enough.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Poch: "I think it’s good now [that we’re in a battle for the top four] that people are going to realise our real level. I am a little bit worried about the change from the first half to the second is mental. It’s about arrogance in a bad way."

"It shows we need more. We need to increase everything. There’s been a lot of talk about being in the last step, winning some trophies. We live in the perception and reality. This is the reality. We have two faces."

"My reaction is the same as yours and our fans. It's difficult to understand the second half, the way that we started and gave the belief to Southampton. I feel so disappointed. It's a thing that worried me."

"It's impossible to perform here and in the second half perform in the opposite way. I am so, so, so disappointed. The worse thing is that we are now going to have three weeks ahead, it will be difficult to take off feeling of today."

Thoughts?

I think what he said goes a long way to explain why our squad is full of habitual losers who always fall at the final hurdle

 

[werty]

Poch: "I think it’s good now [that we’re in a battle for the top four] that people are going to realise our real level. I am a little bit worried about the change from the first half to the second is mental. It’s about arrogance in a bad way."

"It shows we need more. We need to increase everything. There’s been a lot of talk about being in the last step, winning some trophies. We live in the perception and reality. This is the reality. We have two faces."

"My reaction is the same as yours and our fans. It's difficult to understand the second half, the way that we started and gave the belief to Southampton. I feel so disappointed. It's a thing that worried me."

"It's impossible to perform here and in the second half perform in the opposite way. I am so, so, so disappointed. The worse thing is that we are now going to have three weeks ahead, it will be difficult to take off feeling of today."

Thoughts?

I find it worrying that he finds the second half difficult to understand when it's not the first time it's happened to us under him and it obvious what was wrong.