The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

His player recruitment is awful, sanchez aside.

i wouldn't call Alderweireld, Trippier. Wanyama, Son awful personally

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Let's not start being silly.

start?

 

[SugarRay]

Lads, we're just going through a bad spell. Poch will get it right. We're (obviously) not winning the title. But top 4 is very much on. What we need is to get behind the manager and the team. We still have an incredible side that just needs to start firing again.

This. Just enjoy watching us, anything above that is a bonus. We'll play some good stuff again soon, win more than we lose and hopefully enjoy a cup run this season.

I worry this side might have peaked though. To go from also rans who can be relied upon to lose when it matters to the next level might need the sort of player we cannot attract.

 

[lukespurs7]

i wouldn't call Alderweireld, Trippier. Wanyama, Son awful personally

2 or those he’s had under him before, trippier I don’t think he had much influence on , Son has been great.
Njie, nkoudu, sissoko, Llorente, Jansen all very poor + the areas we’ve not addressed

 

[TheVoiceofReason]

Jesus people are thick.

 

[SUIYHA]

I don’t doubt him but I am concern that the players don’t look as interested and up for it as they did last season and the one before.
Are they burnt out, low on confidence or genuinely starting to get pissed off with it all?

Hopefully just the first 2 and once we start winning and mabye rotating a bit it will come good again.

I’d actually start Lamela, Son and Llorente vs Watford, Kane, Eriksen and Alli need a rest.

I remember thinking something similar about a lot of these players at this time last year. Here were my thoughts on glory-glory:

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/mauricio-pochettino.6336/page-458#post-868774

That was just after we lost to Monaco and went out of the Champions League. Alli, Dier, Eriksen and Dembele were all in dreadful form.

What gives me hope is that in all three of Poch's previous seasons, we've had inconsistent starts before hitting our best form from December onwards. Let's not forget, he is the only manager in the past 54 years to have brought us back to back top 3 finishes - he has turned around bad spells before and every single one of us owes him the trust that he'll turn it around again.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

This is why we were dead against selling Kyle Walker.

The players can see what he's doing at City and will want it even more now. Selling Walker sent out all the wrong messages and were going to pay for it massively.

My worst footballing nightmare is happening, selling walker to city and watching him stroll to a league title with them at the first attempt while we wilt away. This is why I and others were dead against selling him domestically. I would have forced him abroad.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

2 or those he’s had under him before, trippier I don’t think he had much influence on , Son has been great.
Njie, nkoudu, sissoko, Llorente, Jansen all very poor + the areas we’ve not addressed

He has never managed Alderweireld before. Wanyama, granted, but he still had influence on his signing. You can't just decided he didn't have much influence on the Trippier signing just to fit your agenda lol

 

[noggen]

My worst footballing nightmare is happening, selling walker to city and watching him stroll to a league title with them at the first attempt while we wilt away. This is why I and others were dead against selling him domestically. I would have forced him abroad.

Next up: Danny Rose in January to a another rival.

 

[lukespurs7]

I remember thinking something similar about a lot of these players at this time last year. Here were my thoughts on glory-glory:

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/mauricio-pochettino.6336/page-458#post-868774

That was just after we lost to Monaco and went out of the Champions League. Alli, Dier, Eriksen and Dembele were all in dreadful form.

What gives me hope is that in all three of Poch's previous seasons, we've had inconsistent starts before hitting our best form from December onwards. Let's not forget, he is the only manager in the past 54 years to have brought us back to back top 3 finishes - he has turned around bad spells before and every single one of us owes him the trust that he'll turn it around again.

That’s mate this has cheered me up, and oh I trust him 100% I just don’t trust all the players.

 

[lukespurs7]

He has never managed Alderweireld before. Wanyama, granted, but he still had influence on his signing. You can't just decided he didn't have much influence on the Trippier signing just to fit your agenda lol

I can and I will

 

[shoggy33]

Tonight I'm just looking over at Dyche with Burnley and can't help but think would he have lost that game?

Also he's English (I think, he never really mentions it so not sure) so might do well with our English boys as he knows more about the style over here and also might be able to have proper conversations with them about like birds n stuff rather then poch just talking about 'philosophy' and writing fucking books all the fucking time, I'm sick of this: its football not book writing ffs!

Lol you think Dyche would have gotten us 3rd and 2nd place finishes!? In my opinion Poch has worked miracles with this group of players. We are awful at the moment though. Its the complete lack of intensity that bothers me, we arent really pressing teams and turning it over high up the pitch. When we do get it back its generally with our defenders or Dier, so the opposition just let them have it, get set up and stifle Alli, Eriksen and Kane. I personally think that's why Alli especially looks so poor at the moment, hes got no space to play in. I would say we are really missing Wanyamas ability to turn the ball over quickly, the opposition are finding it very easy to pass through the front 3s press, and our current midfield isnt good enough to win it back.

 

[lukespurs7]

Next up: Danny Rose in January to a another rival.

To widen the gap to us even more. I think walker has probably been worth at least 6 points to them this season already. And his lack of playing for us probably cost us 6 pts. HUGE LOSS and mistake to sell to direct rival as I said at the time we should’ve just fucking refused. Whenever a rival is in a bad patch we just strengthen them, man.u here you go have carrick and berba. Man.city come 3rd and way off the pace, I know let’s give them one of our best players and the best RB in the league to weaken us and strength then them i their weakest position. Fucks sake!!

 

[THFC_SWE]

We need to win like 8 or 9 of the 10 next games. We have Watford (A), Stoke (H) Brighton (H), Man C (A), Burnley (A), Southampton (H) West Ham (H), Swansea (A), Everton (H), Southampton (A).

We will probably get smashed by Man City. But other than that, we can pick up a lot of points in these games. Well, not if we play like we do at the moment, but if we play near the top of our capacity we will. But the scary thing is if we lose against Watford and drop some points against Stoke or Brighton, it can get real nasty. Because then we have Man City and Burnley away from home.

 

[lukespurs7]

To widen the gap to us even more. I think walker has probably been worth at least 6 points to 6 this season already. And his lack of playing for us probably cost us 6 pts. HUGE LOSS and mistake to sell to direct rival as I said at the time we should’ve just fucking refused. Fucks sake.

@Archibald&Crooks mate going to have to call you out here. Tell me why I’m wrong about this? Walker has hugely helped lift Cits level defensively and attackingwise and is have no doubt if they had a zabaleta or someone similar in place of him this season they’d be 3-6 pts worse off. Same with us in that if we’d had walker over trippier or Aurier this season we’d be 3-6 points better off. Surely you agree with that, if not then I think you vastly underestimated how good walker was.

 

[rossdapep]

@Archibald&Crooks mate going to have to call you out here. Tell me why I’m wrong about this? Walker has hugely helped lift Cits level defensively and attackingwise and is have no doubt if they had a zabaleta or someone similar in place of him this season they’d be 3-6 pts worse off. Same with us in that if we’d had walker over trippier or rose this season we’d be 3-6 points better off. Surely you agree with that, if not then I think you vastly underestimated how good walker was.

It's easy to look back in the past and pick out ex-players qualities but let's not forget Walker was part of some wretched form and teams too. He was an ever present in any Poch team that had a bad run of form too. I'm absolutely convinced Aurier will improve, I have good reason to as well.

 

[rossdapep]

I think it was Foster who said after the West Brom game, that last season they couldn't get the ball out of their own half. The high-press seems to have vanished between now and then.

And I seriously doubt that Sterling could no worse than Llorente, Onomah could do worse than Sissoko (in midfield), Edwards could do worse than N'koudou or Sissoko (on the wing), etc etc... Let's bring some players through.

Can't argue with that

 

[panoma]

This is why we were dead against selling Kyle Walker.

The players can see what he's doing at City and will want it even more now. Selling Walker sent out all the wrong messages and were going to pay for it massively.

Most funny thing is how many claimed we UPGRADED on Walker with Aurier AND banking money

 

[SugarRay]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...-not-spursy-anymore-says-mauricio-pochettino/

I've pinpointed the moment it started to unravel...

Sooooo spursy!

 

[muppetman]

To widen the gap to us even more. I think walker has probably been worth at least 6 points to 6 this season already. And his lack of playing for us probably cost us 6 pts. HUGE LOSS and mistake to sell to direct rival as I said at the time we should’ve just fucking refused. Fucks sake.

Because it's not so simple is it? We aren't in a position to put a player like Walker (or Rose, or Dele, or Eriksen) in the reserves and write off the money, most of the big money teams are now in the Prem so we can't just "sell him abroad" and also the player has a say in this.

Also, players come to us (and to other teams not in the elite bracket like Atheltico, Dortmund etc) because we are a stepping stone to Barca, Real, PSG, United, City etc - if we park the naughty ones will we get the next round of players?

What do you think we should do when a £50M asset decides he doesn't want to be here any more? The only buyers (at a price we find acceptable bearing in mind what it's going to cost to replace said player) are in our own league - what do we do?

I understand everyone's frustration but I still haven't heard a viable alternative to selling at the very highest price we can get - everything else is just complaining that it isn't fair - which is true but doesn't help us at all