The Naming Rights Thread

[jurgen]

Given the amount of time it's taken to get a deal, it will surely have to be huge when it arrives. I don't think most people will care in the end, but it would be a stretch to maintain the line of 'doing things the right way' if we take the big money from Qatar.

Would be interesting to see if that changes people's views of a takeover, I mean if we were taking their money anyway...

 

[stov]

What the same World Cup that you will watch?

I won't.

 

[stov]

My point is if you dig deep enough, there is dirt on almost every big company. So as trix said earlier, unless Greenpeace wanna give us £300mil what do you actually want?

But they are not all as dirty as each over are they? Moronic argument.

 

[Col_M]

Where do you guys draw the line? Is Bezos ok when he doesn’t pay minimum wage and doesn’t pay uk taxes? Show me a noble company willing to pay big money to sponsor a football team and I’ll show you my 3some pics with Margo Robbie and Pritti Patel.

 

[stov]

Where do you guys draw the line? Is Bezos ok when he doesn’t pay minimum wage and doesn’t pay uk taxes? Show me a noble company willing to pay big money to sponsor a football team and I’ll show you my 3some pics with Margo Robbie and Pritti Patel.

A company not using sport to hide its human rights failings, slavery and corporate manslaughter would be a nice start. Amazon would be a bit shitty but their workers don't generally die on the job.

 

[Donki]

Where do you guys draw the line? Is Bezos ok when he doesn’t pay minimum wage and doesn’t pay uk taxes? Show me a noble company willing to pay big money to sponsor a football team and I’ll show you my 3some pics with Margo Robbie and Pritti Patel.

For me? A business man who doesn't pay minimum wages is a step above a country like Qatar, they conduct their domestic affairs like something in the medieval times. Il be honest my love for Spurs will never die no mater how shit we are, but we cannot on one hand say City are a fake club and all they won is meaningless and then follow the same path. Do I want us to win being involved in what a country like Qatar has on it human rights record? Honestly would rather see us play in the Championship. As for Greenpeace they are utter toilet as well.

Everything you need to know about human rights in Qatar | Amnesty International | Amnesty International

Take a read, football should have nothing to do with this shit.

 

[McFlash]

My point is if you dig deep enough, there is dirt on almost every big company. So as trix said earlier, unless Greenpeace wanna give us £300mil what do you actually want?

No, a company being a bit shady or dodging taxes is completely different.
It's not Qatar Airways that I'd have an issue with, it's the state that so badly hides behind them. The human rights abuses in most Arab states are far worse than a few shady business deals.

 

[fridgemagnet]

I won't.

Nope same here; I'm not watching the qualifiers for it either.

I'd have hoped we'd avoid some tie in with sports washing TBH but then again we could get another deal and it would be with some other big corporation that avoids paying its taxes in the UK; plus well the obvious hypocritical part would be supporting a club who's owners are setup in the Bahamas for "reasons". Plus we have the whole NFL thing which isn't exactly squeaky pure as driven snow either.

I just really hope it's not a deal with the Saudi's because they're throwing a lot of money at all manner of sports at the moment.

A conscience is nice and if we were operating in normal times where covid didn't happen maybe we could afford to be more choosey.
My only hope is if we're going down this cornerstone route whereby it'll still officially be "The Tottenham Hotspur Stadium" but we have a few big sponsors rather than just one huge one. So at least it's not so in your face.

Much like everything else in these times we may need to accept the necessary evil that sadly comes with modern football.

Our kit partner* is tied up for a good while and both shirt sponsorships too so it's really only Stadium and training ground available afaik.
I forget how long our loan currently is but IIRC the interest on it is about £13-15 million a year (it might be less than that I'm not really sure what occurred when we paid back that BOE loan and juggled some shares about)

*Nike may still be using sweatshops for all I know. Again would show another slice of hypocrisy when I buy my nephew a new shirt, then we have tie ins with Monster energy, gambling companies <spits> etc.

 

[Donki]

Actually the last few pages of this thread makes some pretty sad reading.

 

[BosSpurs08]

For me? A business man who doesn't pay minimum wages is a step above a country like Qatar, they conduct their domestic affairs like something in the medieval times. Il be honest my love for Spurs will never die no mater how shit we are, but we cannot on one hand say City are a fake club and all they won is meaningless and then follow the same path. Do I want us to win being involved in what a country like Qatar has on it human rights record? Honestly would rather see us play in the Championship. As for Greenpeace they are utter toilet as well.

This is about where I'm at. I'm sympathetic to the argument that there's bodies hiding in every balance sheet, but the way migrant workers have been treated in the lead up to the World Cup seems like an obvious red flag, no? And that's just the most glaring example.

Scrolling upthread it's clear that some of this is personal. I don't have any loved ones that, say, got their hand crushed in an Amazon warehouse, or lost everything from a gambling addiction, but I do have loved ones in one of the countries most impacted by Qatar's human rights abuses, so maybe my red line is different that others'. (I hope not)

Then again, when we go visit that side of the family, guess which airline is the only realistic option...

 

[Donki]

This is about where I'm at. I'm sympathetic to the argument that there's bodies hiding in every balance sheet, but the way migrant workers have been treated in the lead up to the World Cup seems like an obvious red flag, no? And that's just the most glaring example.

Scrolling upthread it's clear that some of this is personal. I don't have any loved ones that, say, got their hand crushed in an Amazon warehouse, or lost everything from a gambling addiction, but I do have loved ones in one of the countries most impacted by Qatar's human rights abuses, so maybe my red line is different that others'. (I hope not)

Then again, when we go visit that side of the family, guess which airline is the only realistic option...

I agree there is no person who can live right 100% and do everything above board. But when you look at the Qatar regime and how the country is run, it goes against everything us as a club stand for. Its not simply a matter of putting up with minor details.

 

[carmeldevil]

Where do you guys draw the line? Is Bezos ok when he doesn’t pay minimum wage and doesn’t pay uk taxes? Show me a noble company willing to pay big money to sponsor a football team and I’ll show you my 3some pics with Margo Robbie and Pritti Patel.

Amazon does pay more than the minimum wages and some of the benefits are decent for a warehouse job. But the issue with Amazon is the abuse of workers fitness due to their business practices.

Plus the taxes thing too.

Big difference than Qatar.

 

[cider spurs]

Where do you guys draw the line? Is Bezos ok when he doesn’t pay minimum wage and doesn’t pay uk taxes? Show me a noble company willing to pay big money to sponsor a football team and I’ll show you my 3some pics with Margo Robbie and Pritti Patel.

Might be clutching here.

Harry Kane/Leyton Orient.

I'll DM you my email address.

 

[smithym]

I highly doubt any ITK on the naming rights is accurate. A few weeks ago the club were advertising for a Head of Sales/Sales Director role on LinkedIn, one of the key job roles was to actually assist in the sourcing and negotiation of the stadium naming rights.

 

[worcestersauce]

Let's be honest if it was the Holy church of Rome there'd still be plenty of people who'd have a problem with it.
It's a stadium sponsorship that's all and if it brings in loadsamoney then I'm fine with it.

 

[leelee]

Because people will still watch it, makes it OK then, to mistreat people?

Of course not but if you're gonna take a stand. Take a stand.

 

[Aay_Jay_Dee]

I agree with most on here. You cannot ignore Qatar’s human rights allegations of the recent years.

But most of would happily take an American business. Despite the fairly evident deep seated racism within the police force, the 800 military bases around the world, the killings of thousands of innocents with drone attacks.

It’s all well and good to point the finger at Qatar but we are no better and if anything have done much worse to the world in recent and past times. Every country has its evils albeit Qatar’s are more in the forefront.

 

[Metalhead]

Where do you guys draw the line? Is Bezos ok when he doesn’t pay minimum wage and doesn’t pay uk taxes? Show me a noble company willing to pay big money to sponsor a football team and I’ll show you my 3some pics with Margo Robbie and Pritti Patel.

No thanks, I don't want to see those.

 

[Metalhead]

Let's be honest if it was the Holy church of Rome there'd still be plenty of people who'd have a problem with it.
It's a stadium sponsorship that's all and if it brings in loadsamoney then I'm fine with it.

Ha ha yeah I think that the Vatican sponsoring it would for sure cause a lot of fuss too.

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

Let's be honest if it was the Holy church of Rome there'd still be plenty of people who'd have a problem with it.
It's a stadium sponsorship that's all and if it brings in loadsamoney then I'm fine with it.

They're the worst of the lot.