The Newcastle are relegated celebration thread!!!

[worcestersauce]

It's not Newcastle going down that cheers me, the thing I love is that the goal that sent them down was an own goal by none other than Damien Duff, he only went there because they paid him chelsea wages without the need to earn it the money grabbing bastard I bet he'd jump at the chance to come to Spurs now!

Did anyone see the Toon fans last night, all chanting for Alan Shearer to be the manager, they still don't get it do they? they still want a messiah, they always want a messiah when what they need is a manager and players worth the name as well as a plan of some kind and some patience.

 

[Shanks]

If by the term big club, you mean rich in history, then Forest are bigger than us.

I feel a bit for all teams that are relegated, mostly sorry for the Newcastle fans. Their club has been ruined by internal politics... never mind, not sure they will recover from this either.

 

[Kendall]

Still hasn't sunk in.

Could not give a fuck about the Liverpool game yesterday, it was all about the toon going down

 

[3Dnata]

Toon weren't relegated- they're "boycoutting" the Premiership.
The first TV interview with their best in the world fans they were blaming Spurs- some jerk said Ashley should ring his mate from Spurs Sir Alan Sugar who'd say you're fired.
Seriously who'd want to buy them(Apart from the Pound shop)?
They'll be having some big games against Leeds soon anyway.

 

[rez9000]

To be fair, Forest have much more claim to being a "big club" than the barcodes, really. Other than shirt sales (which the Geordies must earn on big time), in footballing terms, Forest are actually a very important team who were perhaps one of the first "victims" of footballs move from a game into an industry.

Absolutely right. I consider Forest and Leeds to be more significant than Newcastle.

Forest have won the European Cup, a feat that we haven't managed. And Leeds were the last winners of the old Division 1.

Newcastle have won nothing of note for over 50 years. Since lifting the FA Cup in 1955, they have won the Fairs Cup in '69, the Second Division in '96, and the Intertoto Cup in '06, plus a couple of other even more inconsequential trophies.

The fact that they compare themselves with us is laughable, when we've won at least one major trophy every decade since the 50s. Since their last significant success, we've lifted 12 major trophies, including three European competition cups. Forest have won 9 major trophies, and Leeds have won 6. Villa and Everton have had greater success and more recently too.

When we were drowning in the mire at the beginning of the season, we had our fair share of rival fans willing to stick the boot in, but I heard loads of neutrals and non-rival football fans, almost as horrified as us at the prospect of us going down. I haven't found a single non-Toon fan who is saddened by their demise. And I think the cause of that is that they know that Newcastle have 'ideas above their station'.

This is a lesson and, as I said in another thread, it is fully deserved. A little humility would not go amiss in Newcastle. That is Shearer's one and only saving grace: that he has the humility to realise that there is something wrong with that club, from the boardroom to the terraces. Although that doesn't excuse his own arrogance in believing that he could pull of a feat that would tax even the most gifted of managers.

Let's make no mistake about it, they are in trouble. They have a large squad of players, few of whom will be considered a decent buy by other clubs. Also, many of them have no provision in their contracts for wage-cuts in the event of relegation. Their fans, the self-styled 'best fans in the world' have a reputation for deserting them when in the lower divisions. So, put together falling attendances with a wage-bill that will either remain a drain on their resources or will incur great expense to cut, and the future looks bleak for Newcastle. I, for one, am gratified by that.

Many fans think Spurs needed a little object lesson in humility too. The difference is that we have a pedigree that stimulates expectation. OK, perhaps we've gone too far in our expectations and our boasting, but at least we have something to back it up with. Newcastle don't. They have needed a large helping of humble pie for a long time and yesterday it was served up, nice and cold.

 

[3Dnata]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Newcastle-Uni...m14&_trkparms=66:265:1039:1240:1318301:1293:1


lol

It's been removed has somebody bought them?
I hope Mido is laughing BTW how their fans got off with that I don't know.

 

[rez9000]

It's been removed has somebody bought them?
I hope Mido is laughing BTW how their fans got off with that I don't know.

What was the eBay listing? I clicked the link too late, it had already been removed.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

it had 26 bids when i looked, was at about £10m :lol:

i bet if you'd offered Mike Ashley £10m yesterday at about half 6 he would've taken it and walked away

 

[3Dnata]

Didn't see it either I suppose it's the club for sale joke.
Don't look like those geordies have got a sense of humour- that's going to be bad news for them in the coming years.

 

[DC_Boy]

If by the term big club, you mean rich in history, then Forest are bigger than us.

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Hi shanks - is the 'us' here 'spurs'?

cos I would massively contest that claim that forest are bigger than us

while I don't like the big club arguments, as with Celtic, if we're gonna have one ....

for sure spurs are a bigger club than forest - that goes on history and current status

we've won more trophies - we have a higher ave lge position than them over the entire history of the football lge, we are ever presents in the prem they currently - well I don't even know where they are - that's how little they register

I've lived thru six decades - we've outperformed forest in 5 of those 6 decades AFAIK - I'd have to do the checks to confirm

the 50 60 and this decade are ours

the 70s are theirs

from memory the 80s and 90s are ours too in terms of trophies and average lge positions

maybe they take one of those decades

I'll still be amazed if we don't take it 4-2

and as I say overall it's an easy victory for us both in terms of lge positions and trophies won

 

[MattyP]

 

[jimmy-jojo]

If by the term big club, you mean rich in history, then Forest are bigger than us.

I feel a bit for all teams that are relegated, mostly sorry for the Newcastle fans. Their club has been ruined by internal politics... never mind, not sure they will recover from this either.

Why feel sorry for them? They bought this on themselves...they were sitting comfortably in mid-table with Allardyce...but that wasn't good enough for 'the best fans in the world'. The amount of vile abuse Allardyce got was a disgrace. Ashley made his biggest mistake in listening to the fans and getting shot of Allardyce. The 'best fans in the world' wanted Messiah No.1 and Ashley gave him what they wanted.

When Messiah No.1 stormed off in a huff, the fans reacted in such a way that any credible manager worth their salt would go within mile of the club. The only person crazy enough to take the job was Kinnear with a dicky ticker...and I bet he's regretting it now as he lies in his hosptable bed recovering from a quadruple heart by-pass!

The fans wanted Shearer....Ashley gave them Shearer. No experience Shearer. It was a ludicrous decision imagine if when Levy gave Ramos the boot he had turned round and given David Ginola the job! Just crazy!

They only have themselves to blame...

 

[Tickers]

Anyone see the banner the Villa fans had yesterday?

"Who's your next messiah - Ant or Dec?"

:lol:

 

[3Dnata]

I was just reading on GG they have 15 players on at least 50k a week and no relegation clauses.
They are royally screwed.
I can't imagine we'd want any of their players, some would get into a lower half prem team for their experience, Butt,Martins etc but for 50K a week? not likely.
Maybe ton will have to let them go and still pay a large chunk of their wages which is what Leeds did and look what happened to them.

 

[don1]

 

[DC_Boy]

here are some spurs forest facts

http://www.krysstal.com/trophies.html

spurs 17 trophies (last trophy 2008) forest 9 trophies (last one 1990 - indicative of their collapse in the prem years)

so, together with our respective lge records, that gives us the 50s 60s 90s and this decade for sure - so 4-2 at least over the last 6 decades

EDIT - yep I'll give them the 80s even tho we won more trophies because of their superior lge record

it's still 4-2 tho over the last six decades

we also took the forties too (what there was of them)

and we also took the 30s - a 9-1 walloping in terms of lge positions (0 trophies each)

I've think I've gone back far enough

www.fchd.info/indexn.htm

is a very good site for comparing clubs records

forest had the 1890s BTW - my guess is we had the 20s

EDIT

Boy did we have the 20s - 10-0 in the lge and 1-0 in trophies

we also win the 1910s both in cup and lge

so that's 8-2 in terms of decades - there are only 14 decdes available - so there is a winning margin however the other decades pan out

so we win it on decades

and we have won more lge trophies, more FA Cups, the same amount of lge cups, and more euro trophies

the only significant stat they beat us at is their two euro cups

I'm very confident our ave lge position is higher than theirs - I'm 100% our post-war lge record is better - I doubt it's even close

a couple of examples in the 50s we walloped forest 9-1 in terms of lge finishes - in the 60s it was 8-2 this decade it's been a staggering 10-0

(of course all my figures are open to correction - all done very quickly

but I tend to have a pretty good 'road map' in my head about the pecking order in English football (terrible mixed metaphors there

- and the idea that forest might be ranked above us so shook me I had to do some quick stats to confirm that my road map at least was intact - of course it's all about opinions, someone might say two euro cups overrides everything else - but I just would never agree with that)


our ave attendances are way higher too

so no way are forest a bigger club than us on any reasonable set of criteria (IMHO

back to the toon

yep I don't have any sympathy for toon at all

their club were one of the ones that massively upped the mercenary factor in the prem - the parker and duff deals being two classic examples

some of their fans were larging it on 606 early in the season (As were west ham etc)

well 'larging it' is one thing they do quite well

for years we've listened to the deluded mags saying they are a bigger club than us

abetted by Sky sycophancy and this in one in the eye for sky too - nice

 

[Tickers]

here are some spurs forest facts

http://www.krysstal.com/trophies.html

spurs 17 trophies (last trophy 2008) forest 9 trophies (last one 1990 - indicative of their collapse in the prem years)

so that gives us the 50s 60s 90s and this decade for sure - so 4-2 at least over the last 6 decades

we have won more lge trophies more FA Cups the same amount of lge cups and more euro trophies

the only significant stat they beat us at is their two euro cups

I'm very confident our ave lge position is higher than ther theirs - I'm 100% our post-war lge record is better - I doubt it's even close

our ave attendances are way higher too

no way are forest a bigger club than us on any reasonable set of criteria (IMHO

back to the toon

yep I don't have any sympathy for toon at all

their club were one of the ones that massively upped the mercenary factor in the prem - the parker and duff deals being two classic examples

their

It's lucky you don't like these 'bigger club' arguments. We'd be here all week.

 

[mkkid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2rKWJBzHas

 

[thinktank]

they still don't get it do they? they still want a messiah, they always want a messiah when what they need is a manager and players worth the name as well as a plan of some kind and some patience.

Fact-truth.

 

[thinktank]

Anyone see the banner the Villa fans had yesterday?

"Who's your next messiah - Ant or Dec?"

:lol:

Shared manager?