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chas vs dave

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I'd say it's embarrassing because you're having a go at other fans, mainly it seems, because they have a different opinion to you.

You're calling their loyalty and love of the club into question and that's a pretty low thing to do.
I'm calling out their ability to weaponise bad times, to suit their opinion, whilst calling out fans who put an effort in.

All of these fans also say that fans who are patient are "losers"

Things are changing, I'm willing to wait and see
 

McFlash

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Oct 19, 2005
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Please explain who I demonstrate a losers mentality?

I don't like seeing spurs lose like this.

However, I'm willing to wait and see, not act like a child, with very little mental fortitude.

I sat in the stands when we were 5-1 down at home to Chelsea in the 90's, I guess I'm a loser because I support my club.
How long are you willing to wait for, and what are you hoping to see?

For me, there's been a pattern throughout Levy's tenure and there's every chance it'll repeat itself yet again.

Surely you can understand why so many fans are at the end of their tether now?
That doesn't make them lesser fans than you.
 

Rout-Ledge

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I think that can be levelled at both sides, it's embarrassing in here
Attempting to invalidate other fans’ connection with the club because they don’t go to every match is another level of embarrassment in my view. I’ve supported the club for 25 years, but I only go to a few games a year so I guess it’s not ‘my club’ after all. Ridiculous.
 

HW61

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Losers in the team, losers in the stands.
Final game with a season ticket. Purchased food outside stadium. No merchandise bought. I’ll let others have a go.

Was the only one joining with the Levy Out. The only one. They all look comatosed around me…Just weird.

It all lands at Levy’s door. His Chairman’s statement was cold, pathetic, and absolving himself from any single blame. What a prick.
 

danielneeds

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It’s funny how our experience since moving to the new stadium mirrors Arsenal’s in some ways. Fans growing ever more disillusioned after being promised the stadium would take them to a next level, whilst the club actually had no idea how to get there. The difference being, they had Wenger’s steady hand to keep performance levels to a good minimum standard. But until we reach a moment where Levy goes or resigns as chairman and takes a back seat as part-owner, I can’t see us getting the refresh we need.
 

McFlash

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I'm calling out their ability to weaponise bad times, to suit their opinion, whilst calling out fans who put an effort in.

All of these fans also say that fans who are patient are "losers"

Things are changing, I'm willing to wait and see
I used to be very defensive of Levy but the past couple of years have beaten that out of me, it's been one cock up after another and while I agree that things should be changing, I'm not sure I have the faith left to believe that they actually will.
 

funkycoldmedina

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Attempting to invalidate other fans’ connection with the club because they don’t go to every match is another level of embarrassment in my view. I’ve supported the club for 25 years, but I only go to a few games a year so I guess it’s not ‘my club’ after all. Ridiculous.
Try having another opinion than Levy is the devil incarnate and see the crap that gets thrown your way 🤣🤣
 

chas vs dave

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How long are you willing to wait for, and what are you hoping to see?

For me, there's been a pattern throughout Levy's tenure and there's every chance it'll repeat itself yet again.

Surely you can understand why so many fans are at the end of their tether now?
That doesn't make them lesser fans than you.
No, what is success?

I'm arguing probably because I'm really pissed off about the club rn.

I've renewed, but I've wasted a lot of time travelling 3 hours to every home game this season.

I've never said I accept anything, however things have improved most seasons. We are just having a bad one.

I'm happy to wait, as i just want to see some good football.

I've been waiting for success for 20 years. What's changed?
 
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chas vs dave

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I used to be very defensive of Levy but the past couple of years have beaten that out of me, it's been one cock up after another and while I agree that things should be changing, I'm not sure I have the faith left to believe that they actually will.
And that's not unreasonable. However it has to be fair criticism. I'm critical of the failure on the pitch. I'm spiky rn because I've spent 3 hours travelling to a game, and the players have again failed to perform over 90 minutes.

However, enic aren't going anywhere, I want what's best for spurs. This isn't it
 

chas vs dave

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Attempting to invalidate other fans’ connection with the club because they don’t go to every match is another level of embarrassment in my view. I’ve supported the club for 25 years, but I only go to a few games a year so I guess it’s not ‘my club’ after all. Ridiculous.
It isn't your club. It isnt my club. Regardless of attendance

I've already stated that.
 

synththfc

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It’s funny how our experience since moving to the new stadium mirrors Arsenal’s in some ways. Fans growing ever more disillusioned after being promised the stadium would take them to a next level, whilst the club actually had no idea how to get there. The difference being, they had Wenger’s steady hand to keep performance levels to a good minimum standard. But until we reach a moment where Levy goes or resigns as chairman and takes a back seat as part-owner, I can’t see us getting the refresh we need.
We had that too in Poch. The difference being, our chairman thought he was the reason for our success whereas the Arsenal hierarchy knew what they had in Wenger. Wenger had tough seasons too (start of 19/20 for Poch), the difference is he was always trusted by the hierarchy to get them out of it
 

rossdapep

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He's not finished by a long shot, sadly.

He's certainly not happy because this wasn't his vision with the stadium.

If you can recall when the stadium had been completed he did a short interview and he looked very emotional.

His dream realised.

But he forgot. To make a stadium special it needs fans to be upbeat and loving their club/team.

I genuinely think he thought it was 'mission accomplished' back in 2019 when we got to the CL final and the stadium opened.

Since then he's been making decison after decision to try and arrest this mood slide with the fans.

It's led to hasty decisions on all fronts.

From the hiring of Paratici cause "hopefully his winning success at Juve would rub off on us" despite Paratici not being the catalyst for that success.

To the firing of Jose before a final cause he was worried he'd have to pay him off or it'd look bad firing a coach who wins a trophy.

He's become desperate and his obsession to have a stadium full of fans who adore it and praise him for it has definitely led to him making decisions not in line with who Tottenham should be
 

mil1lion

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I'm calling out their ability to weaponise bad times, to suit their opinion, whilst calling out fans who put an effort in.

All of these fans also say that fans who are patient are "losers"

Things are changing, I'm willing to wait and see
The trouble is that things have been changing for years now. Patience is something our fans have in abundance through years of falling short. The biggest concern is we still don't have any idea what the strategy is going forward. We don't even know what things are changing too. We seem to be talking to different types of dof and different types of manager. It still feels like Levy is going around hoping to land another jewell.

I think we have to wait and see what happens. But there's also nothing wrong with calling for change at the top level as well. Things could work out and Levy could strike gold again. If not then we're another year or so down the line before anything is done about it. At least if we keep the pressure on now the tides of change will be in motion before its too late. It can take years for a change so we do need to be ahead of the the curve.
 

McFlash

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And that's not unreasonable. However it has to be fair criticism. I'm critical of the failure on the pitch. I'm spiky rn because I've spent 3 hours travelling to a game, and the players have again failed to perform over 90 minutes.

However, enic aren't going anywhere, I want what's best for spurs. This isn't it
I totally understand that and if I'd have been at the game, I'd be proper pissed off at that effort shown.

I also agree that ENIC aren't going anywhere but as I've said all along, nor do I really want them to.
They've done wonders for this club in all areas apart from one and for me, that's Levy meddling with the football side.

I'm also hoping that with Munn, our new DoF and manager, Levy may step back and leave the squad planning and building to those who know what they're doing.
But I've felt like that for a while now and he just can't seem to leave it alone.

That's why I've had enough of him, Conte was his last chance for me.
 

longtimespur

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Based in what people believe on here, unless he calls himself out then nothing he says
And that's not unreasonable. However it has to be fair criticism. I'm critical of the failure on the pitch. I'm spiky rn because I've spent 3 hours travelling to a game, and the players have again failed to perform over 90 minutes.

However, enic aren't going anywhere, I want what's best for spurs. This isn't it
Your last paragraph I read as you wanting Levy out. So really you’re agreeing with us Levy out
 

chas vs dave

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Your last paragraph I read as you wanting Levy out. So really you’re agreeing with us Levy out

no, im not buying into anything.

I do think enic need to move on, it's more to do with hitting a glass ceiling.

I'm just pissed off with the performances. That's all
 

Gb160

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I'm calling out their ability to weaponise bad times, to suit their opinion, whilst calling out fans who put an effort in.

All of these fans also say that fans who are patient are "losers"

Things are changing, I'm willing to wait and see
How are you so confident that things are changing mate?
 
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