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dontcallme

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Read back over this thread, there are plenty more than one prepared to defend Levy no matter, and as soon as he appoints whatever random dude falls on his lap they’ll be back on here talking about Leeds, Oil money, the stadium , 90s etc etc
Less of your BS mate, I know you were a fanboy of his before so well done for coming across, some still aren’t there…
I was a supporter of his for the 1st 10 years, then this gave him leeway for the next 5. For the last few years I've been sick of him. I don't hide this.

But outside of Weiner, I can't see anyone here defending him outside of pointing out basic facts.

Edit: sorry about the bullshit comment. It's been a crappy morning with the Slot news and sitting in all day waiting for the UPS guy to make a delivery.
 
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thebenjamin

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Jul 1, 2008
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Penny for Joe/Vivienne's thoughts on this ongoing debacle under Levy's watchful gaze.....

They're still up massive. It's not like the results of the football team even move the dial. The property development and events company is going extremely well.
 

jakuba

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Aug 20, 2013
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It feels as though we are reaching Valencia and Peter Lim levels of owners holding a club hostage whilst doing the absolute bare minimum to keep it above total collapse.

Disagreeing with every decision that’s happening at board level but we have utterly no power of recourse whilst they line their pockets.

More and more the success of the football team is becoming irrelevant with event after event filling the stadium too. The way this is going all they’ll need is that Spurs exists in the premiership regardless of position. Economically efficient to not invest in the team finishing higher in the table.
 

JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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Read back over this thread, there are plenty more than one prepared to defend Levy no matter, and as soon as he appoints whatever random dude falls on his lap they’ll be back on here talking about Leeds, Oil money, the stadium , 90s etc etc
Less of your BS mate, I know you were a fanboy of his before so well done for coming across, some still aren’t there…

I think there is a difference between defending Levy and being patient with the managerial search.

Im not a Levy apologist, but im just not into the hysteria of things and throwing tantrums. Maybe im not invested in a particular manager and that is why - I dont know. Or maybe ive just lost a bit of love for the club so cant be fucked. I understand the frustrations though, im concerned I wont lie and I dont really see who I would want that takes my fancy and would appeal to the fans.

Im not in the business of telling people how they shoud feel, we are al different but I can see why some of us are throwing tantrums - the more you read, the more you become invested, the greater the anger.

So no, I dont think there are too may of us defending Levy, and im losing patience, but im also seeing the bigger picture whilst also being frustrated ad the verge of anger because id rather now watch QPR than Spurs and trust me - QPR are just as bad.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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You do realise that what goes on this site is just a bunch of very frustrated fans voicing their opinions. We are not actually doing anything in the sense that we have no agency over decisions made by Levy and co. I'd say thinking you do is a little unhinged.

The last twenty years have been mostly good. To describe Levy as an incompetent or someone who doesn't want the best for the club is just silly.

It's easy to criticise in retrospect as it is to allow your frustration to cloud the facts.
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wrd

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Aug 22, 2014
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I appreciate the time you have taken to argue your position. Many thanks!

Regarding definitions I think we agree on what long-term decline and self-inflicted mean.

I don't see long-term decline because I think we will recover quickly from the initial burden of the stadium build (of course it impacted player spending) and the effects of the pandemic (it seems there was a high degree of turnover of key staff). Top notch infrastructure, committed and large fan base and good financials will see us through.

Of course some the problems were self-inflicted (ie decisions made by Levy). In my view the main mistake was going down the pragmatic football route and not building on our football culture starting with the Academy. We will never know whether sticking with Poch would have worked. Personally I am doubtful.

I am sounding like a broken record but I do think we were very unlucky with the Pandemic hitting us just when we were undergoing massive structural change. By that I mean moving to a new stadium. The Athletic has very interesting looking into the changes behind the scenes at the club.

The unrest at Tottenham Hotspur runs deeper than just the first team

That and the fact that Conte lost interest. Not to mention Betancur's long-term injury.

Of course you could argue that Levy should have know about Conte given his track record and should have steered clear of Paratici given his legal problems.

You could argue that the club should be more resilient but big change can be difficult to manage.

Yeah and I appreciated you responded in kind.

I think we will bounce back soon too however I don't think we can use our feelings of what may or may not happen in the future as a variable in measuring decline. We can only look at the now and currently from the relative position of where the club was at it's highest point, we are on a decline. The key issue with the decline as others have alluded to is that we have a squad who were meant to be at the peak of their powers now and this is a good example of why using prediction to measure decline isn't good because we would have predicted with the likes of Son/Kane getting to the ages between 28-30 that is when we would be reaping the rewards, I'm sure we all felt that when just missing out against Chelsea and Leicester but it hasn't happened.

I understand the effects of the pandemic, I understand the stadium build but I think again you can't measure based on what should have happened or what would have happened if, you have to measure on what did. Man makes plan and god laughs is the expression and though it may feel that I'm dismissing the very real impact that those things had, I'm not. Instead what I'm trying to do is to show that there will always be a what if, a should have, oh but this happened. There is always going to be something that can be pointed at and be used to justify why but this isn't an approach that ever yields success. Taking responsibility and dealing with things as they are is what yields success. Big change can be difficult but we need to learn to deal with discomfort because if we don't other clubs will and we will be sitting here feeling sorry for ourselves saying it's not fair and blaming external circumstances instead of focusing on energy on what we can influence. There will always be injuries, there will always be decisions going against, there will always be a bad fixture list, there is always an external factor you can point to but to succeed you have to adapt to what the situation is, not look at what you wished it was.
 

andy00900

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Aug 18, 2017
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Funny how the 2 'nailed on winners' that Levy was so desperate to hire have actually become the 2 most damaging for his reputation.

I've got evrything crossed we get new ownership now
He doesn't want to sell if he cant keep his position, we are fucked
 

G Ron

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Aug 24, 2012
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Has there ever been a sacking of a board without a full takeover? Not just exclusive to Spurs, but just wondering in general.

it’s what we desperately need, but sadly I don’t see any movement without a full sale of the club.
 

glacierSpurs

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Sep 28, 2013
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For someone who values his assets at over 4 billion, he does not even wish to fork out a 0.0025% of that to get a top manager.

If only there are a million Spurs fans who are willing to donate £10 each, we should all do that and buy Slot out, just to humiliate this shitty and disgraceful chairman of ours, and let him be ridiculed by the sports world forever.
 

WiganSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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I have re-aligned my expectations now. We're going to become the next Leicester, Chelsea or Everton with Levy still operating as the defacto director of football. Once Kane leaves next summer and Levy is in charge of the replacement operation with a Levy shackled sub par manager below him, we could well end up in the Championship.
 

HotSprut

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Jan 26, 2013
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For someone who values his assets at over 4 billion, he does not even wish to fork out a 0.0025% of that to get a top manager.

If only there are a million Spurs fans who are willing to donate £10 each, we should all do that and buy Slot out, just to humiliate this shitty and disgraceful chairman of ours, and let him be ridiculed by the sports world forever.
What can I do with a millionth of a Slot?
 

carmeldevil

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May 15, 2018
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You do realise that what goes on this site is just a bunch of very frustrated fans voicing their opinions. We are not actually doing anything in the sense that we have no agency over decisions made by Levy and co. I'd say thinking you do is a little unhinged.

The last twenty years have been mostly good. To describe Levy as an incompetent or someone who doesn't want the best for the club is just silly.

It's easy to criticise in retrospect as it is to allow your frustration to cloud the facts.

Username checks out
 

only1waddle

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Jun 18, 2012
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Levy wouldn't get hired by any other serious club in world football to have any sort of involvement with their football side, it's that simple.
 
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