The ousting of Daniel (COYS)
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glacierSpurs
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Whoever comes in will inevitably have to sell a lot of players - so many a true word.
danielneeds
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Difference is Jones is desperate to win a Super Bowl, spends money, just doesn’t spend it wisely.
only1waddle
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Indeed, I think the lack of self awareness to get out of their own way is the biggest issue with both, regardless of motive.
mil1lion
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That's not what was said though was it? Levy said to Sherwood that Baldini didn't rate Kane and wanted Champions League quality players. Levy was relaying the views of Baldini and when Sherwood asked Baldini he said that was the case. I'm not saying it's right for Levy to be involved at all. My point is that Levy isn't the one suggesting Kane wasn't good enough or Soldado should start. You're right though the manager should be left to pick his team. I just don't think it should be spoken like it was Levy wanting to know why Soldado wasn't starting when he was speaking on behalf of Baldini. It shows more than anything that the dof and manager at the time were not on the same page and the dof was trying to get his way.
Finchyid
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Agree but it excludes amortisation of players
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SirHarryHotspur
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Sort of in contrast to the recent actual financial accounts audited by Deloitte, how can you be profitable if losing money ?
2020 loss £63.9 million
2021 loss £83.8 million
2022 loss £50.1 million
For the love of Spurs
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Might be wrong on this but doesn’t that include things like stadium amortisation and player amortisation. Ie not real cash flows but technical accounting that is benifical for tax purposes. Such as 70m or so stadium amortisation, this isn’t real we ain’t building a new stadium in 10-15 years time when the value of the stadium technically hits zero.
Yes and also hardly like Sherwood was our proper manager at the time with a track record to merit a no questions asked approach
he was just gap filling after yet another managerial error from Levy
SirNiNyHotspur
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So what’s your graphic then? Because if we’re not doing great financially why’d we even bother building the stadium? Why does Levy reward himself each year? Why doesn’t Joe get rid of him? Why is he looking for 4 billion+ to sell? Why do people like yourself come on here constantly to say what a great job he is doing off pitch?
Perhaps because the graphic is right? This comes from a forbes study, it says in the small print before taxes, amortization and depreciation…
Ie The more property he invests in to build his asset the more depreciation, the more screw ups he makes the transfer market the more amortization, all this means is we have excuses not to invest in the team whilst their asset grows astronomically.
Let’s face it, ignore the figures, pleading poverty given the increased money coming in just doesn’t make any sense, common sense says we can afford to do much better on the pitch and dine at the top table if that’s our ambition.
But that record money that’s gets us to the top of all these financial tables keeps coming in to pay for new non footballing projects to again build their asset. Joe and Dan are winning, we are not, the stadium carrot never was to be a game changer for anyone other than Joe and Dan. Fans need to wake up and stop accepting being taken advantage off by these greedy scum, they’re taking you all for mugs…
Mr Pink
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Yes mate, I get that.
But it's Levy's responsibility to be hiring people who are in sync with one another.
That's totally on him.
There's a constant lack of planning around the structure and set up of the Club.
Ultimately that's his responsibility.
SirHarryHotspur
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I have no idea on accounting apart from making a profit or loss. All sorts of stats can be quoted from different sources , for instance it looks like we are top of the table in the debt league, so at the moment were winners.
Ranking Football Clubs With The Most Debt In European Football
Tottenham, Barcelona, Manchester United are on the list of Football Clubs With The Most Debt. Football Clubs With The Most Debt is £7.4 bln
www.totalsportal.com
mil1lion
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Sure but Sherwood wasn't the pick so I guess it was a matter of him sticking by his dof over the caretaker manager. Maybe AVB and Baldini were on the same page but things didn't work out for AVB and Sherwood was just a temp. It just doesn't seem like that big of a deal for me. I think its just the downside to sacking a manager during the season and having a temp manager to see out the season. The summer followed with both Sherwood and Baldini going and then Poch with Mitchell. It's true Levy should pick the dof and manager that work together but when things don't work for the manager has to decide whether to keep with the dof. Ideally the dof should then pick the next manager but it can be difficult during the season. Sherwood was just there to take over and they must have wanted him to stick to the plan under AVB. It's harsh on him as if you're manager you should do your own thing but ultimately he did get his way so doesn't seem to matter much. If he had been told to play Soldado over Kane then it's a much bigger problem. Questioning his selection isn't so bad for me.
Ghost Hardware
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Video is surprisingly spot on. Does make you think again that it really won’t matter who we bring in now, Ange or Enrique, just feels irrelevant.
Mr Pink
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Been saying this for ages.
I'm not really bothered until Levy is gone, it just won't really matter.
The penny will drop eventually with others...
but I understand having some hope that each time it just might be different but I've accepted it won't.
mil1lion
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Although I'm Levy out I do feel it's a bit over the top at times. I mean why can't we have another spell as we did with Redknapp or Poch?
Certainly time is running out and really Conte should have been his last chance. However we have to hope he has another lucky break because I just care about the football and want us to succeed. With or without Levy. Not sure why people will be so negative as long as Levy is here, we should just get behind the team next season and see how it goes. Support the club through thick and thin. Things are not as bad as being made out.
Certainly time is running out and really Conte should have been his last chance. However we have to hope he has another lucky break because I just care about the football and want us to succeed. With or without Levy. Not sure why people will be so negative as long as Levy is here, we should just get behind the team next season and see how it goes. Support the club through thick and thin. Things are not as bad as being made out.
Ghost Hardware
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The thing that amuses me is ether manager we get, if they fail (and unfortunately with the bloated squad, Kane wanting out, lack of budget and, well, Levy it’s probably more likely “when” not “if”) the fan base will be up in arms saying we should have hired the other guy.
Now there might be some truth to it, both are certainly gambles (Ange maybe a little more so) and they might just not do a good job but ultimately I don’t think any manager will be getting a fair chance to build something so it really does render the whole thing sort of pointless.
