The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[nav007_2000]

No not believing a word that comes out of Levy's mouth.

I can guarantee that even with Munn taking over the footballing side, Levy will still meddle and try to save money on deals and jeopardise what Munn is doing. This will lead to Munn leaving and we will be back at square one.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

The de facto response to any official Spurs tweets being the below image is actually a great use of the platform and a great way to easily get people behind a simple message.

Yea saw this yesterday in response to the youth team game tweet, it will have an effect for sure.

I'm very pleased there is finally a movement, as I've said all along without speaking out nothing will change.

It took quite a few on here and in the stadium to realise Levy's shortcomings but they're there for all to see now, fans, players, employees, media, everyone is singing from the same hymm sheet now to try and influence some positive change.

Our new manager hire and DofF hire will say a heck of a lot as to if he and the board have truly learnt their mistakes from the last 3-4 years or not, however not having replacements lined-up for Conte and Paratici already is another mistake in itself in terms of a lack of planning.

That being said if there was a plan and then Nagglesman opportunity has come to light then I can forgive that but we should've had DofF's lined up as it was obvious Paratici was likely to have his ban extended just like it was obvious Conte's time was going to come to a crashing halt sooner or later.

 

[cliff jones]

You can imagine being a fly on the wall in the crisis meeting…

So predictable. A bit like the outcome of Dier v Isak or Hodgepodge v Bruno.

Only ever doing just about enough.

The problem with that is the cost of doing just enough is going up every season, so if you don’t spend, or you don’t understand what you’re spending on, you’re out of your depth…

 

[mil1lion]

This is bollocks btw. Take the money off the next home ticket price if you want to find the money to reimburse fans.

How does that work? It's just the fans who travelled who deserve it which is a small % of fans. Why should non travellers get money that the loyal travellers also get?

 

[Ravenyonaz]

Trying to quell disgruntlement, COYS Dan a little worried about upcoming matches I would assume, see’s the Stellini sacking didn’t have the required lift he was hoping for.

This has obviously been in the planning for quite a while!

 

[Misfit]

What I will say is, while this is obviously an attempt to placate fans, you can see what the pressure is doing. They are floundering, and moves like "Levy Out" aren't going to happen quickly, if at all, so these are moves made out of desperation to buy some time and try to turn the narrative around. Think it's just as important fans see these announcements for what they are, see right through them and what they are trying to do and not ease up on the gas pedal.

Basically, it's action not words time from now on.

Even taking into account the diehard holdouts (as is their right), too many have had this trick pulled on them now and are tired of it.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

No not believe a word that comes out of Levy's mouth.

I can guarantee that even with Munn taking over the footballing side, Levy will still meddle and try to save money on deals and jeopardise what Munn is doing. This will lead to Munn leaving and we will be back at square one.

Most likely but structure wise having a Chief Football Officer should make a difference as that person will be on the board whereas a DofF wouldn't be influential at board level.

 

[Ravenyonaz]

haha this is all so transparent it's hilarious

Daniel #COYS
sudden announcement of a fan advisory board step forward
contrite statement from the players

and people still want to say protest makes no difference?
still want to say Levy doesn't care if people boo him at a home game?

He clearly cares a lot and hates it.

They never do this stuff proactively. Because they believe in it and think its right. It's always a last minute gesture when they realise a peasant revolt is brewing. As soon as Levy thinks we aren't looking, he will slip straight back into his bad old ways

None of this is nearly enough. Let's keep the heat on these people who are holding our club hostage

Do you think they started this process yesterday?

 

[felmani26]

The default response to any official Spurs tweets being the below image is actually a great use of the platform and a great way to easily get people behind a simple message.

Social media is often a cess-pit of society but if you can unify behind a common cause then it can absolutely be an effective instrument for change.

Hopefully this bombardment of a clear, unambiguous message like above will not only continue, but the movement gets bigger traction and will undoubtedly get picked up on by media, journalists and the wider community.

 

[Ravenyonaz]

Spot on and a mass protest has yet to begin: if fans get together this will be all over the media, it cannot stop here, I hope most don’t get fooled by this.

You need a mass for a mass protest

 

[Gilzeanking]

I was excited about Conte but more so because I thought he might be the one who fights for the club to change. It started off well last jan, we got 2 quality players from Serie A and things were looking good. We then started with Perisic so it seemed like we were finally backing him.

The trouble is he wanted Bastoni and we ended up with Lenglet on loan. That seems OK because you don't always get your first choice. But when we get Spence and he makes it clear its a club signing the cracks started to form.

Trouble is we should know how hostile Conte is so it was always a matter of getting what he wants or it will turn bad. So I think those who were happy with Conte were happy on the basis that we back him. It was always a bad fit if we were not willing to change and we haven't.

We do spend money but only on players who fit the Levy profile not the manager. Also you have to question Conte for players like Son losing form especially if you don't set up so he plays further forward and you have him dropping too deep. Also he never would drop him so that's on him.

Honestly I expected better from Conte but we also didn't help matters. The fact is we had the perfect formula under Poch. When we sacked him we changed completely to different managers with defensive football. We should have stuck with the same model, get another attack minded man manager with history of developing players. Instead we got managers who have history with world class players but we didn't start to sign world class players to suit.

We can get back on track if we set up with a dof with a clear plan. Start signing players who fit the plan. Get a manager who fits the plan. So then if they leave or get sacked you get the next manager that fits the plan and so on. Instead we sign managers who look good on paper and players who are the best deals in the window.

I agree with most of this, Levy should've made sure Spence was acceptable to Conte, yes and has interfered and going back there's plenty of black marks..(I reckon a more robust response to Lasagna gate) but I'm looking ahead with the Levy in situ because he owns the club unfortunately.

I'm far from a Levy apologist,but don't like getting carried away on the current wave of Levy hate. On this mucky Stellini experiment. it looks clumsy, but it should be remembered that Stellini looked like he was managing the team in his little spell when Conte was away. A few of us thought we noticed a greater freedom in the play in a series of victories. This could have influenced Levy to gamble that mebbe Stellini/Mason could be a goer. A mistake, but there's a shred of logic there.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Social media is often a cess-pit of society but if you can unify behind a common cause then it can absolutely be an effective instrument for change.

Hopefully this bombardment of a clear, unambiguous message like above will not only continue, but the movement gets bigger traction and will undoubtedly get picked up on by media, journalists and the wider community.

Love the idea, one common clear unrelenting message, whether ENIC in or out think we’ve got to the point 99% agree Levy is damaging to our success more than any player or manager ever could.

 

[nav007_2000]

I agree with most of this, Levy should've made sure Spence was acceptable to Conte, yes and has interfered and going back there's plenty of black marks..(I reckon a more robust response to Lasagna gate) but I'm looking ahead with the Levy in situ because he owns the club unfortunately.

I'm far from a Levy apologist,but don't like getting carried away on the current wave of Levy hate. On this mucky Stellini experiment. it looks clumsy, but it should be remembered that Stellini looked like he was managing the team in his little spell when Conte was away. A few of us thought we noticed a greater freedom in the play in a series of victories. This could have influenced Levy to gamble that mebbe Stellini/Mason could be a goer. A mistake, but there's a shred of logic there.

Levy is riddled with Mistakes. This gamble has massively backfired. And then to try to fit in with the fans, he comes out with the cringy response COYS, Daniel Levy.
Give it a rest. He has to go!

 

[Ravenyonaz]

Ok so after what’s just happened if he gets in nakedman funds him well and doesn’t get in the way , half is forgoton mr levy

Won't change a thing for some fans. Levy is just always in the wrong, regardless.

 

[longtimespur]

So... we should've kept Stellini? Or Conte? What should Levy have done today?

Resigned from anything to do with the football side of the club. Forthwith. Give Munns a budget at the end of each season and leave him , the DOF and the new manager/coach buy whomever they need and sell any that aren't up to scratch..
He's done wonders for the club with infrastructure but he mostly ruins the footballing side.

 

[mil1lion]

Do you think they started this process yesterday?

Exactly, this would have taken time. They probably rushed through the announcement and the application process though. Levy knows Thursday will be hostile so doing his best to put flames out before then.

 

[easley91]

If he really wanted to quell the discontent he'd call up Poch and stop the Chelsea move.

The atmosphere if we're beaten easily by United and Chelsea make the announcement will be worse than anything seen so far.

Poch not coming back shouldn't have anything to do with this. The fans made that bed themselves by singing his name when for months everybody knew the club wasn't interested in a return.

 

[easley91]

"We want change!"

*Club makes announcements*

"We don't believe a thing you say!"

Honestly if you don't believe any of it then things will never change, because you won't accept the possibility of things changing. I get the history, and actions speak louder than words at this point, but this with Scott Munn is a start. At least give it a chance.

 

[tony0379]

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Resigned from anything to do with the football side of the club. Forthwith. Give Munns a budget at the end of each season and leave him , the DOF and the new manager/coach buy whomever they need and sell any that aren't up to scratch..
He's done wonders for the club with infrastructure but he mostly ruins the footballing side.

A lot of people in here seem convinced that Levy is always "meddling" in the football side of things, and I'm really stuck to find that said by former managers. If we go by Conte's statement then he's NOT got a focus or a direction to take the club in, which sounds like the opposite of meddling to me.

Munn - total unknown, for a vast majority of us. Yeah, we can all read what's said about him online but the proof will be in the pudding - he might blow goats and be gone in six months after signing Titus Bramble by accident, but that's part my concern with so many calling for Levy to "go".

For a start, you can't demand someone sell something they own. The world doesn't work that way, never has, and thinking that fan pickets or protests have ever made an owner sell up is kidding ourselves. Secondly, who takes over and why does everyone think that a new owner would be any more capable than the one we have, who has ensured financial stability in a brand new stadium, with state of the art facilities for training etc.

Yes, we need work on our recruitment, scouting and youth setups - woefully short considering the effort put into providing for them. One of the best bosses I ever had said, "Good managers don't manage people. They manage situations by employing the right people" and that's where I think Levy has come up short in a few departments but I have no insight to that side of the club and, I can say with quite a lof of confidence, neither do 90% of the people posting in this thread.

It's just easy to keep flinging insults and demand "change", in a fantasy world where our new owner is rich as fuck and has a psychic ability when it comes to recruiting a first team coach, or signing players.

Anger needs a vent, this thread is that vent for some, but it's quickly becoming an echo chamber of spite and, frankly, uninformed bullshit. I've never run a football club, I don't know what's required from day to day, but apparently the plumbers, bus drivers, carpenters, customer service workers, retail workers - all of us who have never had to run a multi-million pound international company, suddenly feel like we know best.

Tragedy or comedy, take your pick. Being realistic might be boring but it keeps my blood pressure on the regular.