The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[Essex Spur]

Not so sure. I go to watch my local non league team who are dreadful and it's a proper laugh.

I watch Malaga when I visit Spain - they have had it worse than us, the atmosphere towards the team is always amazing

they make their opinions of past and present owners very clear though !!!

 

[Joshua shepherd]

and risk not being able to get a season ticket again for years..?

You’d get one the very next year. The waiting list since we moved out of white hart lane is essentially fictitious.

 

[DarwinSpur]

those that hold ST's if you really care dont renew next season

Nah us season ticket holders are famous for not caring about Spurs...

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It's genuinely hard to think of a major decision that Levy and the board have got right since the stadium opened. I don't mean player acquisition/selling which is always a bit hit or miss, for all clubs, and has been for us; although I would argue that over the last 8-ish years, we've been particularly bad at squad building vs. our peers.

But in terms of major club-level decisions, we've gotten them all wrong. I guess you could argue that firing Mou, Nuno, Conte, and Stellini were all the right decisions, but I also think they each should have gone like 3 months sooner (including Nuno!), and it's cost us a ton of money along with Poch's compensation.

I don't mean this as an exhaustive list, but what the hell is the board actually doing to be so wrong so often:

• Firing Poch looks questionable or at least failing to support adequately
• Appointments of Mou, Nuno, and Conte all look like disasters
• Joining the Super League was a horrible decision, poorly thought out, and very anti-fan move
• Participating in the furlough scheme was a PR mess
• Firing Mou on the eve of a cup final and appointing a 29-year old looks terrible (and making that 29-year old take a press conference explaining the club's super league participation and Mourinho firing)
• Still no naming rights
• Appointing Paratici who was already under investigation and who favored defensive football at the same time as releasing the statement about understanding club DNA
• The farcical post-Mou managerial hunt
• Having no post-Conte or post-Paratici plans despite the writing being all the walls for months. And holding up post-Conte plans by sticking by Paratici well beyond the point it was tenable.

It's just very hard to have any faith whatsoever that this board can make a correct decision. I'm constantly battling between my innate optimism and thinking our reorganization (Munn et al), a new DoF, and a new coach might get us back on track, and then remembering that the people appointing Munn, DoF, and coach haven't made a good decision in 4+ years so what are the odds they'll get this right. This club...

Fantastic post

 

[Cream]

Next season is the one!

it must be! No naming rights. But levys at the wheel.

oh this is the one. After 23 years he must have learnt! Guaranteed. Please mr levy. Take my 2k.

only you know how to spend it.

mugs.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Next season is the one!

it must be! No naming rights. But levys at the wheel.

oh this is the one. After 23 years he must have learnt! Guaranteed. Please mr levy. Take my 2k.

only you know how to spend it.

mugs.

Another fact that’s gone under the radar, along with no Manager/DOF

No plan or vision whatsoever

 

[keenu]

I'm not sure it's such a bad thing really. The stadium is hosting all these events and has our name attached. I'm pretty sure they're happy for it to remain under our name to boost the club profile and get the club name more exposure.

I think that's what Levy alluded too in that recent interview, I think unless he gets a size-able offer, he just want to keep the name attached to it for that reason

 

[inclineyid]

Honestly don’t think anything is going to change until Joe Lewis pops his clogs. Unfortunately he could easily poodle on for another decade, leaving us in limbo. No idea what will change when he finally goes but something will (may just end up with Levy having an even tighter grip on the reins worst case scenario, or something much more resembling a true shake up of power, no idea).

 

[Karol]

Another fact that’s gone under the radar, along with no Manager/DOF

No plan or vision whatsoever

Oh he has a plan and vision, it just doesn't extend to the footballing side of the business

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Q is simple will our fans man up and ramp up the pressure on Levy or continue in this state of flux, a few balloons here and there the odd banner a chant once every 40 mins from about 5% of the fans, a protest outside the ground with about 10-15 people literally…

I just don’t get it.

Man.U, Arsenal, Newcastle fans all stood up to their owners and are influencing or have influenced changed, we are just as if not worse run on the football side given our resources and the majority of our fans just sit on their hands or still don’t realise the negative spiral trajectory we are on right now and have been on for a while under Levy.

This is now not just about not winning trophies or not aligning with our clubs DNA and style of play but if we continue to be miss managed like this with Kane leaving we could genuinely start to end up in real trouble like Everton etc.

We must do more.

 

[Darth Vega]

Q is simple will our fans man up and ramp up the pressure on Levy or continue in this state of flux, a few balloons here and there the odd banner a chant once every 40 mins from about 5% of the fans, a protest outside the ground with about 10-15 people literally…

I just don’t get it.

Man.U, Arsenal, Newcastle fans all stood up to their owners and are influencing or have influenced changed, we are just as if not worse run on the football side given our resources and the majority of our fans just sit on their hands or still don’t realise the negative spiral trajectory we are on right now and have been on for a while under Levy.

We must do more.

I agree that we need to do more; we have a very placid fan base all things considered and I think a large part of that is because we've been exposed to mediocrity for so long that people don't expect or demand success because they don't know what it looks like. Arsenal, Liverpool and United have fallen off a perch at various points so they feel like they have a right to get back there, we've only been somewhat close to that over a year or two under Poch.

Where I'd disagree is that they've influenced change. Newcastle were protesting for 13 years and United since before the Glazers even took over (~18 years ago), in Ashley's case he only sold when he got his price and the same will be true of the Glazers. If you're a businessman sitting on something you believe to be worth X amount of billion, you're not going to shift that asset just because you've hurt a few people's feelings.

Realistically more protests from the fans will just lead to more PR moves from Levy to make it look like he gives a shit; refunds in specific circumstances; Fan Advisory Boards that will make the fans feel important but ultimately lead to nothing (Everton have had one for two years, look at them now); the hiring of more staff to put another wall between him and criticism while he micro-manages everything from behind the scenes anyway.

 

[Whazam]

Honestly don’t think anything is going to change until Joe Lewis pops his clogs. Unfortunately he could easily poodle on for another decade, leaving us in limbo. No idea what will change when he finally goes but something will (may just end up with Levy having an even tighter grip on the reins worst case scenario, or something much more resembling a true shake up of power, no idea).

I get what you are trying to say here, but wishing the life out someone maybe isn't the best way to put it.

 

[Styopa]

I agree that we need to do more; we have a very placid fan base all things considered and I think a large part of that is because we've been exposed to mediocrity for so long that people don't expect or demand success because they don't know what it looks like. Arsenal, Liverpool and United have fallen off a perch at various points so they feel like they have a right to get back there, we've only been somewhat close to that over a year or two under Poch.

Where I'd disagree is that they've influenced change. Newcastle were protesting for 13 years and United since before the Glazers even took over (~18 years ago), in Ashley's case he only sold when he got his price and the same will be true of the Glazers. If you're a businessman sitting on something you believe to be worth X amount of billion, you're not going to shift that asset just because you've hurt a few people's feelings.

Realistically more protests from the fans will just lead to more PR moves from Levy to make it look like he gives a shit; refunds in specific circumstances; Fan Advisory Boards that will make the fans feel important but ultimately lead to nothing (Everton have had one for two years, look at them now); the hiring of more staff to put another wall between him and criticism while he micro-manages everything from behind the scenes anyway.

Yeah. Pretty much this. We have been run more or less the same way for the last twenty years. Levy has ridden out various storms during that period. I just can't see him changing his approach now. As you say, supporter unrest is more likely to lead to more PR moves than anything substantive.

In fact, part of the problem of the last few years has been appointing big-name coaches to appease fans. Hiring Mourinho after sacking Pochettino and Conte following the Nuno debacle were massive PR wins for Levy.

 

[inclineyid]

I get what you are trying to say here, but wishing the life out someone maybe isn't the best way to put it.

I’m not wishing him dead, just talking about the realities surrounding the ownership of the club, which are tied into the death of an already very old man. When I say unfortunately may poodle on, I only mean unfortunately in terms of probably leaving the club in limbo, hope that makes sense.

 

[Whazam]

I’m not wishing him dead, just talking about the realities surrounding the ownership of the club, which are tied into the death of an already very old man. When I say unfortunately may poodle on, I only mean unfortunately in terms of probably leaving the club in limbo, hope that makes sense.

All good mate, I figured that was what you meant. Doesn't really read like that though (to me), so wanted to give you a heads up.

 

[shoggy33]

It feels like the stadium and commercial enterprises have given Enic a way of making the club incredibly profitable without actually needing on the field success. As long as we are vaguely relevant they will continue to make money. Levy would probably love it if we won something, but not ahead of profits. They won't care if the legacy fans dissappear because the stadium will still fill with tourists and corperate hospitality types. The only way I can see anything changing is significant external investment, or something to happen that makes us way less appealing to sponsorship etc - like relegation. Meanwhile newcastle, Brighton and villa all leapfrog us in the space of one year. Depressing as hell.

 

[Cuore da Leone]

It feels like the stadium and commercial enterprises have given Enic a way of making the club incredibly profitable without actually needing on the field success. As long as we are vaguely relevant they will continue to make money. Levy would probably love it if we won something, but not ahead of profits. They won't care if the legacy fans dissappear because the stadium will still fill with tourists and corperate hospitality types. The only way I can see anything changing is significant external investment, or something to happen that makes us way less appealing to sponsorship etc - like relegation. Meanwhile newcastle, Brighton and villa all leapfrog us in the space of one year. Depressing as hell.

Wrong. The only way to effect change is to stage mass protests in-and outside the ground! Basically make ourselves heard without any violence, of course.

US FANS need to do MUCH MORE!

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It feels like the stadium and commercial enterprises have given Enic a way of making the club incredibly profitable without actually needing on the field success. As long as we are vaguely relevant they will continue to make money. Levy would probably love it if we won something, but not ahead of profits. They won't care if the legacy fans dissappear because the stadium will still fill with tourists and corperate hospitality types. The only way I can see anything changing is significant external investment, or something to happen that makes us way less appealing to sponsorship etc - like relegation. Meanwhile newcastle, Brighton and villa all leapfrog us in the space of one year. Depressing as hell.

All so true unfortunately :-(

We have this shiny new stadium but Tottenham Hotspur Football Club is losing its soul

 

[Gareth88]

Wrong. The only way to effect change is to stage mass protests in-and outside the ground! Basically make ourselves heard without any violence, of course.

US FANS need to do MUCH MORE!

Not calling for it but do you think getting #Levy out trending or @ the club would be a protest for international fans to take part in

 

[thelak]

Whether we get rid of him or not I don’t see us going anywhere with ENIC and Levy running the show. They have shown they know little about football or the fanbase, just know how to build the asset up.

The club will remain in perpetual Groundhog Day until Levy leaves sadly. A selfish man who puts himself before the club he purports to follow.

I think that’s the sad truth

Levy is ultimately a selfish fan simply concerned with his own wealth and is to egotistical to even realise he’s utterly failed as a chairman on the sporting side

Ive always wonder why men like Joe Lewis and Levy are so obsessed with profits and wealth when they have made more than enough for several lifetimes

especially Lewis at his age

rather than leave a real legacy or mark of wider success that carries their name down future generations