The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[For the love of Spurs]

Levy is a chairman from the 90s/noughties. Hands on, involved with everything......just feels outdated up against the slick footballing operations we are up against. Lot of these new owners of EPL clubs are coming in, bringing in their own people and letting them get on with it. Yes they'll have bumps along the way but eventually there's a good chance they'll get it right

On the footballing side, Levy was able to get away with the way he worked for say the first 10-12 years. Game has massively moved on since then and now him being here is holding us back and will hurt us. Way Levy operates reminds me of a chap from a football manager game in the 90s called Ultimate Soccer Manager. You had to go to him for everything. Modern day clubs are not run like that anymore.

Ultimate soccer manager was fantastic.

In terms of chairman yes you have Kenwright and Sullivan as examples of other old school type chairman. I think Levy is more talented then them but it’s a similar issue with outdated ways.

 

[Joely]

The potential for things to turn ugly for Levy is very real. I think a lot of fans are going to end up taking to Postecoglou because he appears to be a straight talker who doesn't beat around the bush. He has been clear on how he wants us to play on the front foot and the fact we need to strengthen at CB. Noticed a lot of fans who weren't fully convinced by his appt being slowly won over by him and that's before we've played a competitive game

If Kane goes and/or we don't strengthen adequately at CB and things to start to go pear shaped early on next season, think general consensus will be that Postecoglou has been thrown under the bus and anger will turn to Levy. Don't think it will be another Nuno situation where Levy is getting rid of unpopular appointment.

 

[robin09]

I think he’s got progressively more frustrating as a chairman, as the cost of success has risen over the last 6-7 years.

It didn’t require massive investment to get us from mid table to top 7.

The cost for us to get CL for the first time was a little more, but still affordable to a well run club.

But to try and create a guaranteed top4 squad now, you’re having to spend the sort of money that would have won you the league a decade ago.

And actually beating City etc to a league title? You’re talking absolutely massive money needed, with still no guarantee you’ll outwit Pep.

I think Levy just doesn’t see it as a justifiable risk. Not a good return on investment. The game has become a plaything for petro-states, and the (admirable?) way in which Levy runs the club, means our self-imposed ceiling will remain below the state owned/aggressively philanthropic clubs who don’t mind throwing hundreds of millions at the squad every window.

 

[JacoZA]

Question for all. Let’s say you could determine how the club operated, on a high-level, by determining our strategy across the following 5 categories - what would you choose?

Spending - ex. less than now, same as now, more than now?
Player targets - what level of players would you buy (age, experience, career arch, etc)
Season targets - what would be the targets you’d expect to meet each season?
Manager type - ex. project, win-at-all-costs, up-and-coming, etc.?
Non-football income: how much would you focus on this?

Feel free to include examples of other club who you would emulate.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

If Kane leaving doesn’t wake him up, then nothing ever will & it’s time to make a stand.

 

[Albertbarich]

Question for all. Let’s say you could determine how the club operated, on a high-level, by determining our strategy across the following 5 categories - what would you choose?

Spending - ex. less than now, same as now, more than now?
Player targets - what level of players would you buy (age, experience, career arch, etc)
Season targets - what would be the targets you’d expect to meet each season?
Manager type - ex. project, win-at-all-costs, up-and-coming, etc.?
Non-football income: how much would you focus on this?

Feel free to include examples of other club who you would emulate.

You can't really answer those questions individually because one effects the other so much.

As an example to hopefully not derail my question I see people on social media gleefully pointing the rain out in south Korea and how it's postponed City's game. And that's fine but City dominate everything and have earned the trust. After the past few years nobody trusts our ownership to do the right thing so these hurdles will obviously meet more scrutiny and criticism.

To try and answer you though -

Spending isn't a fixed amount, it's doing what's needed. Net spend isn't important but securing crucial targets is. When you see our wage bill compared to our income it becomes apparent why people who a City or United might want are pipe dreams as we won't compete and that's not going to change despite the so called game changing stadium..

And that leads to player targets. Last summer we wanted Gvardiol but we wouldn't pay the fee or the wages. Why not? They have built and continue to build all this stuff so we can allegedly compete but we're not are we? Aston villa are trying to, Arsenal are. Why can't we? If you employ a manager you do everything you can to secure those targets and as they employed a Conte and Mourinho they should have known that was what would be expected.

Season targets depend on where we are. I don't expect Ange to win the league but ENICs goal should be to do that. It blatantly isn't.

The type of manager is fluid to the situation. I love Ange and think he is amazing but I thought Conte would be aswell and they never acted in a way to keep him happy. Whoever we get we have to back him to the hilt. But yeah attacking football is something I'd love.

Focus as much as you want on non football income just as long as you remember first and foremost it's a football club.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Arsenal looking to sign David Raya, who they simply do not need, after spending over £200m already. Just another slap in the face to us that Arsenal can sign our first choice GK option whilst we got put off by the price and went for a cheaper and inferior option despite the fact we can definitely afford him. Get these penny pinching clowns out of the club man. They’re killing us.

 

[yankspurs]

We are a sleeping giant, IF we stay in the Premier League. But when Kane goes, that isnt a certainty & maybe not even a likelihood. We need to be sold before January & that must involve a new chairman/chairwoman. It’s the only way, I fear. Thing is, I dont think there is an interested party that is willing enough to climb through the new legal barriers we have to contend with

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

, IF we stay in the Premier League. But when Kane goes, that isnt a certainty & maybe not even a likelihood.

:sigh:

 

[Fredo]

This man hasnt got a fucking clue. Does he seriously not realise how bad this season will be without a defence? We're in big trouble.

 

[George94]

I really didn't want to on Ange's first game at WHL but if we go into that Man United game without any further signings I'm participating in any walkout/protest that's arranged.

 

[Yid-ol]

I really didn't want to on Ange's first game at WHL but if we go into that Man United game without any signings I'm part-taking in any walkout/protest that's arranged.

Without any signings?! .....

 

[George94]

Without any signings?! .....

You know what I mean... any further signings.

 

[Yid-ol]

You know what I mean... any further signings.

First team, certain positions?

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

For all the bedwetters who want to protest at the stadium - the best way to protest Levy, while still supporting Ange and the lads - don't spend any money when you are in the stadium.

Don't get a pint.
Don't get a pie.
Don't go to the club store.
Don't spend a single pound.

If enough people protested with their wallets - it would hurt Levy more than a few random chants, or boos.

 

[shoggy33]

I just can't see protests achieving anything. Levy knows that 90% of the fan base despise him, but he does not give one solitary shit because they don't actually need legacy fans, or success on the pitch, to make money anymore.

 

[GutBucket]

He is regressing and he was never amazing to begin with, he will only get worse IMO. Still far from the worst at least.

 

[George94]

For all the bedwetters who want to protest at the stadium - the best way to protest Levy, while still supporting Ange and the lads - don't spend any money when you are in the stadium.

Don't get a pint.
Don't get a pie.
Don't go to the club store.
Don't spend a single pound.

If enough people protested with their wallets - it would hurt Levy more than a few random chants, or boos.

Bedwetters? Not sure if you're a season ticket holder but I've had mine for 20 years and if walking out the stadium sends a message to this board, I'm more than prepared to do it.

 

[Fredo]

For all the bedwetters who want to protest at the stadium - the best way to protest Levy, while still supporting Ange and the lads - don't spend any money when you are in the stadium.

Don't get a pint.
Don't get a pie.
Don't go to the club store.
Don't spend a single pound.

If enough people protested with their wallets - it would hurt Levy more than a few random chants, or boos.

The best thing to do would be all you said + the vocal protests in the stands. Let him hear it loud and clear in unison.

 

[Monkey boy]

We are a sleeping giant, IF we stay in the Premier League. But when Kane goes, that isnt a certainty & maybe not even a likelihood. We need to be sold before January & that must involve a new chairman/chairwoman. It’s the only way, I fear. Thing is, I dont think there is an interested party that is willing enough to climb through the new legal barriers we have to contend with

not even you can think this is a serious statement.