The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

[pablo73]

It is just incomprehensible to me that the people running our club watched us ship a relegation amount of goals last season and, less than two weeks before the season starts, we've got the same fucking central defence.

Does Levy not fucking understand that every game counts, including the games before the window closes? That it takes time for a new player to settle in? To learn the new tactics of a new manager? Does he not understand this is an emergency now?

For the last few years, every bloody season we go into it with a massive, obvious gap in our squad that compromises our ability to have a successful season.

The league this season will be super competitive and Postecoglou needs to hit the ground running. We can't just wait until next summer to fix the defence, because there will be other things that need fixing then, including things we can't foresee now.

We're one of the most profitable sports teams in the world, and one of the richest football teams, and we have one, ONE centre back who's good enough. And it's been that way for three years now.

How have Dier, Tanganga, Davies and Sanchez not been moved on over the years? What value do they even have now in the market? Why does Levy think these players will somehow come good after years of evidence to the contrary?

If we play a high line in defence like at Celtic with Dier/Davies in it - and I would bet a significant amount of money one of them will be starting our first league game - we're in serious trouble.

Completely agree and the even scarier part is that we don't have the same central defence as last season. As average as Lenglet is he still improves us.

Once again Levy is setting up yet another manager to fail.

 

[Misfit]

All the nasty bullies who target Levy unfairly want is for this club to compete at the absolute limits of its own abilities, to burst figurative blood vessels trying to win. To claw for every inch, to make sure every step of the process is as best as it can be. Nobody is asking them to go toe-to-toe with the likes of City et al. We can't which is why the rest has to try and make up the deficit.

It's not much to ask. It should be expected in competitive sports.

And having spent years not doing that with the excuse that the lack of a stadium prevented it and it would all change after that, it no longer flies at all for many now that the same habits endure.

Not having a single starting calibre CB in by now is just a piss-take quite frankly. There is no satisfactory excuse for it.

 

[spursfan77]

Pipping arsenal to top 4 was pretty exciting at the time. Or did you hate that?

5 weeks of enjoyment since the lucas Moura hat trick in 2019. Woo hoo!

 

[Bobbins]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

There are two things all Spurs fans need to hurry up and accept - and it's incredible there's anyone left to convince, but here we are:

1. Everything ENIC (and Levy) do is designed to increase the sale value of their asset.

Every transfer, every infrastructure project, every product line, every sponsorship deal, every foreign trip, every social media post. Every, single, thing, the, entire, football, club, does - is design to increase asset value in some way or other. Even if it might not appear that way on the surface. Selling a top player does not mean buying a replacement - it means an opportunity to buy two or three much cheaper players and bulk out the squad. This is why we have the biggest first team squad in the league - because we are a player trading exchange, not a football club looking to address issues with the squad.

This philosophy underpins every action the club takes and every element of the thinking of every senior member of staff.

2. ENIC (and Levy) have introduced, fostered, nurtured and propagated a culture of acceptance of failure at the club.

Every player, every manager, every member of staff, has this culture drilled into them subconsciously from the day they arrive at Tottenham Hotspur. That's why winning managers like Jose and Conte have failed to replicate their success - because every aspect of the football club is designed to undermine a winning approach, to suck out the ruthlessness required by winners and to replace it with gentle, undemanding blandness. Failure to win is fine. Failure is not a problem. European qualification of some kind is enough. Trophies do not matter. The reason for this is because winning consistently is expensive, tiring and frankly not required to continue driving up the asset price.

This philosophy underpins every element of behaviour in the club and is best summed up by the regular tag line used across Spurs media when we lose - "it wasn't meant to be".

Remember those two quick points and everything the club does suddenly makes sense. This is why no matter how many boardroom changes we see, no matter how many great managers we get in - we will never win anything (I'm a hipster ball might luck us a League Cup) consistently with our current owners.

 

[SirNiNyHotspur]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

There are two things all Spurs fans need to hurry up and accept - and it's incredible there's anyone left to convince, but here we are:

1. Everything ENIC (and Levy) do is designed to increase the sale value of their asset.

Every transfer, every infrastructure project, every product line, every sponsorship deal, every foreign trip, every social media post. Every, single, thing, the, entire, football, club, does - is design to increase asset value in some way or other. Even if it might not appear that way on the surface. Selling a top player does not mean buying a replacement - it means an opportunity to buy two or three much cheaper players and bulk out the squad. This is why we have the biggest first team squad in the league - because we are a player trading exchange, not a football club looking to address issues with the squad.

This philosophy underpins every action the club takes and every element of the thinking of every senior member of staff.

2. ENIC (and Levy) have introduced, fostered, nurtured and propagated a culture of acceptance of failure at the club.

Every player, every manager, every member of staff, has this culture drilled into them subconsciously from the day they arrive at Tottenham Hotspur. That's why winning managers like Jose and Conte have failed to replicate their success - because every aspect of the football club is designed to undermine a winning approach, to suck out the ruthlessness required by winners and to replace it with gentle, undemanding blandness. Failure to win is fine. Failure is not a problem. European qualification of some kind is enough. Trophies do not matter. The reason for this is because winning consistently is expensive, tiring and frankly not required to continue driving up the asset price.

This philosophy underpins every element of behaviour in the club and is best summed up by the regular tag line used across Spurs media when we lose - "it wasn't meant to be".

Remember those two quick points and everything the club does suddenly makes sense. This is why no matter how many boardroom changes we see, no matter how many great managers we get in - we will never win anything (I'm a hipster ball might luck us a League Cup) consistently with our current owners.

Bravo

 

[Johnny J]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

I agree with your whole post. For the part quoted above, I think most people are simultaneously incredulous and unsurprised. None of it is a shock, but the negligence (in the non-Donoghue v Stevenson sense ) is still astonishing.

 

[floydiohead]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

There are two things all Spurs fans need to hurry up and accept - and it's incredible there's anyone left to convince, but here we are:

1. Everything ENIC (and Levy) do is designed to increase the sale value of their asset.

Every transfer, every infrastructure project, every product line, every sponsorship deal, every foreign trip, every social media post. Every, single, thing, the, entire, football, club, does - is design to increase asset value in some way or other. Even if it might not appear that way on the surface. Selling a top player does not mean buying a replacement - it means an opportunity to buy two or three much cheaper players and bulk out the squad. This is why we have the biggest first team squad in the league - because we are a player trading exchange, not a football club looking to address issues with the squad.

This philosophy underpins every action the club takes and every element of the thinking of every senior member of staff.

2. ENIC (and Levy) have introduced, fostered, nurtured and propagated a culture of acceptance of failure at the club.

Every player, every manager, every member of staff, has this culture drilled into them subconsciously from the day they arrive at Tottenham Hotspur. That's why winning managers like Jose and Conte have failed to replicate their success - because every aspect of the football club is designed to undermine a winning approach, to suck out the ruthlessness required by winners and to replace it with gentle, undemanding blandness. Failure to win is fine. Failure is not a problem. European qualification of some kind is enough. Trophies do not matter. The reason for this is because winning consistently is expensive, tiring and frankly not required to continue driving up the asset price.

This philosophy underpins every element of behaviour in the club and is best summed up by the regular tag line used across Spurs media when we lose - "it wasn't meant to be".

Remember those two quick points and everything the club does suddenly makes sense. This is why no matter how many boardroom changes we see, no matter how many great managers we get in - we will never win anything (I'm a hipster ball might luck us a League Cup) consistently with our current owners.

Super. Sums it up perfectly.

 

[Dov67]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

There are two things all Spurs fans need to hurry up and accept - and it's incredible there's anyone left to convince, but here we are:

1. Everything ENIC (and Levy) do is designed to increase the sale value of their asset.

Every transfer, every infrastructure project, every product line, every sponsorship deal, every foreign trip, every social media post. Every, single, thing, the, entire, football, club, does - is design to increase asset value in some way or other. Even if it might not appear that way on the surface. Selling a top player does not mean buying a replacement - it means an opportunity to buy two or three much cheaper players and bulk out the squad. This is why we have the biggest first team squad in the league - because we are a player trading exchange, not a football club looking to address issues with the squad.

This philosophy underpins every action the club takes and every element of the thinking of every senior member of staff.

2. ENIC (and Levy) have introduced, fostered, nurtured and propagated a culture of acceptance of failure at the club.

Every player, every manager, every member of staff, has this culture drilled into them subconsciously from the day they arrive at Tottenham Hotspur. That's why winning managers like Jose and Conte have failed to replicate their success - because every aspect of the football club is designed to undermine a winning approach, to suck out the ruthlessness required by winners and to replace it with gentle, undemanding blandness. Failure to win is fine. Failure is not a problem. European qualification of some kind is enough. Trophies do not matter. The reason for this is because winning consistently is expensive, tiring and frankly not required to continue driving up the asset price.

This philosophy underpins every element of behaviour in the club and is best summed up by the regular tag line used across Spurs media when we lose - "it wasn't meant to be".

Remember those two quick points and everything the club does suddenly makes sense. This is why no matter how many boardroom changes we see, no matter how many great managers we get in - we will never win anything (I'm a hipster ball might luck us a League Cup) consistently with our current owners.

Nail on the head.

 

[Dave1882]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

There are two things all Spurs fans need to hurry up and accept - and it's incredible there's anyone left to convince, but here we are:

1. Everything ENIC (and Levy) do is designed to increase the sale value of their asset.

Every transfer, every infrastructure project, every product line, every sponsorship deal, every foreign trip, every social media post. Every, single, thing, the, entire, football, club, does - is design to increase asset value in some way or other. Even if it might not appear that way on the surface. Selling a top player does not mean buying a replacement - it means an opportunity to buy two or three much cheaper players and bulk out the squad. This is why we have the biggest first team squad in the league - because we are a player trading exchange, not a football club looking to address issues with the squad.

This philosophy underpins every action the club takes and every element of the thinking of every senior member of staff.

2. ENIC (and Levy) have introduced, fostered, nurtured and propagated a culture of acceptance of failure at the club.

Every player, every manager, every member of staff, has this culture drilled into them subconsciously from the day they arrive at Tottenham Hotspur. That's why winning managers like Jose and Conte have failed to replicate their success - because every aspect of the football club is designed to undermine a winning approach, to suck out the ruthlessness required by winners and to replace it with gentle, undemanding blandness. Failure to win is fine. Failure is not a problem. European qualification of some kind is enough. Trophies do not matter. The reason for this is because winning consistently is expensive, tiring and frankly not required to continue driving up the asset price.

This philosophy underpins every element of behaviour in the club and is best summed up by the regular tag line used across Spurs media when we lose - "it wasn't meant to be".

Remember those two quick points and everything the club does suddenly makes sense. This is why no matter how many boardroom changes we see, no matter how many great managers we get in - we will never win anything (I'm a hipster ball might luck us a League Cup) consistently with our current owners.

Wish you were on the fan board. Agree with every word

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We’re one signing away from them all coming out of their caves again, ignoring the fact that one CB was the bare minimum, a few years late, and another manager not supported early in preseason, and that’s assuming he’s not 3rd or 4th choice… We are not run like a club that wants to win things and that’s why we never will.

Well said.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

There are two things all Spurs fans need to hurry up and accept - and it's incredible there's anyone left to convince, but here we are:

1. Everything ENIC (and Levy) do is designed to increase the sale value of their asset.

Every transfer, every infrastructure project, every product line, every sponsorship deal, every foreign trip, every social media post. Every, single, thing, the, entire, football, club, does - is design to increase asset value in some way or other. Even if it might not appear that way on the surface. Selling a top player does not mean buying a replacement - it means an opportunity to buy two or three much cheaper players and bulk out the squad. This is why we have the biggest first team squad in the league - because we are a player trading exchange, not a football club looking to address issues with the squad.

This philosophy underpins every action the club takes and every element of the thinking of every senior member of staff.

2. ENIC (and Levy) have introduced, fostered, nurtured and propagated a culture of acceptance of failure at the club.

Every player, every manager, every member of staff, has this culture drilled into them subconsciously from the day they arrive at Tottenham Hotspur. That's why winning managers like Jose and Conte have failed to replicate their success - because every aspect of the football club is designed to undermine a winning approach, to suck out the ruthlessness required by winners and to replace it with gentle, undemanding blandness. Failure to win is fine. Failure is not a problem. European qualification of some kind is enough. Trophies do not matter. The reason for this is because winning consistently is expensive, tiring and frankly not required to continue driving up the asset price.

This philosophy underpins every element of behaviour in the club and is best summed up by the regular tag line used across Spurs media when we lose - "it wasn't meant to be".

Remember those two quick points and everything the club does suddenly makes sense. This is why no matter how many boardroom changes we see, no matter how many great managers we get in - we will never win anything (I'm a hipster ball might luck us a League Cup) consistently with our current owners.

Great post and the 33 winner ratings and counting well deserved.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

For all the bedwetters who want to protest at the stadium - the best way to protest Levy, while still supporting Ange and the lads - don't spend any money when you are in the stadium.

Don't get a pint.
Don't get a pie.
Don't go to the club store.
Don't spend a single pound.

If enough people protested with their wallets - it would hurt Levy more than a few random chants, or boos.

1. That won’t happen.
2. Even if 10% of fans did that it won’t touch the sides.

Said this last year but sustained loud big number volatile consistent protests and chants and the bad PR etc it generates are the best way to get to Levy, but tbh I’d rather he just hurried up and bought 2 top class CB’s, sold Kane, replaced him with a decent striker and RW and then left Ange to get on with it and the crowds focused on getting behind the team.

Pigs may fly and all that however.

 

[blitzfyr]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

There are two things all Spurs fans need to hurry up and accept - and it's incredible there's anyone left to convince, but here we are:

1. Everything ENIC (and Levy) do is designed to increase the sale value of their asset.

Every transfer, every infrastructure project, every product line, every sponsorship deal, every foreign trip, every social media post. Every, single, thing, the, entire, football, club, does - is design to increase asset value in some way or other. Even if it might not appear that way on the surface. Selling a top player does not mean buying a replacement - it means an opportunity to buy two or three much cheaper players and bulk out the squad. This is why we have the biggest first team squad in the league - because we are a player trading exchange, not a football club looking to address issues with the squad.

This philosophy underpins every action the club takes and every element of the thinking of every senior member of staff.

2. ENIC (and Levy) have introduced, fostered, nurtured and propagated a culture of acceptance of failure at the club.

Every player, every manager, every member of staff, has this culture drilled into them subconsciously from the day they arrive at Tottenham Hotspur. That's why winning managers like Jose and Conte have failed to replicate their success - because every aspect of the football club is designed to undermine a winning approach, to suck out the ruthlessness required by winners and to replace it with gentle, undemanding blandness. Failure to win is fine. Failure is not a problem. European qualification of some kind is enough. Trophies do not matter. The reason for this is because winning consistently is expensive, tiring and frankly not required to continue driving up the asset price.

This philosophy underpins every element of behaviour in the club and is best summed up by the regular tag line used across Spurs media when we lose - "it wasn't meant to be".

Remember those two quick points and everything the club does suddenly makes sense. This is why no matter how many boardroom changes we see, no matter how many great managers we get in - we will never win anything (I'm a hipster ball might luck us a League Cup) consistently with our current owners.

Agree but it doesn’t mean we should be happy about it

 

[Stevespurs71]

Amazes me that people are still this incredulous, year after year after year.

It's always the same - but you lot are still somehow surprised when we haven't bought key players, addressed areas the manager wants, and have left everything until the last minute. Even though we do it every year, to every manager, and have done so for 20 years.

There are two things all Spurs fans need to hurry up and accept - and it's incredible there's anyone left to convince, but here we are:

1. Everything ENIC (and Levy) do is designed to increase the sale value of their asset.

Every transfer, every infrastructure project, every product line, every sponsorship deal, every foreign trip, every social media post. Every, single, thing, the, entire, football, club, does - is design to increase asset value in some way or other. Even if it might not appear that way on the surface. Selling a top player does not mean buying a replacement - it means an opportunity to buy two or three much cheaper players and bulk out the squad. This is why we have the biggest first team squad in the league - because we are a player trading exchange, not a football club looking to address issues with the squad.

This philosophy underpins every action the club takes and every element of the thinking of every senior member of staff.

2. ENIC (and Levy) have introduced, fostered, nurtured and propagated a culture of acceptance of failure at the club.

Every player, every manager, every member of staff, has this culture drilled into them subconsciously from the day they arrive at Tottenham Hotspur. That's why winning managers like Jose and Conte have failed to replicate their success - because every aspect of the football club is designed to undermine a winning approach, to suck out the ruthlessness required by winners and to replace it with gentle, undemanding blandness. Failure to win is fine. Failure is not a problem. European qualification of some kind is enough. Trophies do not matter. The reason for this is because winning consistently is expensive, tiring and frankly not required to continue driving up the asset price.

This philosophy underpins every element of behaviour in the club and is best summed up by the regular tag line used across Spurs media when we lose - "it wasn't meant to be".

Remember those two quick points and everything the club does suddenly makes sense. This is why no matter how many boardroom changes we see, no matter how many great managers we get in - we will never win anything (I'm a hipster ball might luck us a League Cup) consistently with our current owners.

Oh captain, my captain!!!!!

 

[jolsnogross]

Smashing post from Bobbins. One thing that may happen is that a return to real mediocrity, when we're not even challenging for European spots, would mean item 1 (monetary value focus) is undermined by item 2 (culture of sporting failure). It appears to me that after 20 years, Levy has learned nothing about how to build and maintain a proper competitive football team. I know most of us know that, but it's important to say that plainly to emphasize how weird it is to have a football club chairman who fits that profile. He'd sack himself in an instant if he had any self awareness.

It also looks to me that years of 'learning' - with each step of progress from Jol to Redknapp to Poch - has been unlearned. Levy was always undermining us during that progression, often very unnecessarily, but we eventually got to a really competitive side in what looked like a 3-steps-forward, 2-steps-back kind of way. But the direction was forward at least. Now, I would suggest we are in danger of returning to pre-Jol days. I really think last season was covered up by Kane's brilliance and we might be in for a shoddy time ahead.

If it wasn't for the appointment of Postecoglu, I'd say a real regression to 10th place and below is on the cards. And even with Postecoglu, that danger is still there and we're asking a lot of the new manager to undo 4 years of shite football and a precipitous decline from Poch's days. It'll take quite a bit of time to turn that ship around and I have little faith in Levy, some players, and fans to put up with 6-months or more of dodgy results while the manager works to break poor-performance habits.

 

[cliff jones]

we can't compete with Clubs backed by countries (of which there are two), otherwise we'll do a Leeds

13 days till the opener, and counting

 

[smithym]

we can't compete with Clubs backed by countries (of which there are two), otherwise we'll do a Leeds

13 days till the opener, and counting

This ‘do a Leeds’ rhetoric is tired and boring.
We’re fuck all like Leeds were in terms of infrastructure and a morn prolonged stint in Europe behind us.
Take away the ownership issues we all have with spending money, it’s there to spend if we wanted to.

 

[lincspurs]

This ‘do a Leeds’ rhetoric is tired and boring.
We’re fuck all like Leeds were in terms of infrastructure and a morn prolonged stint in Europe behind us.
Take away the ownership issues we all have with spending money, it’s there to spend if we wanted to.

Then why do we not want to?

 

[Pochemon94]

Welp if we are off to a shaky start, goodluck Danny. I don't dislike the guy as i'm sure he is a decent guy it's just that i genuinely think he's mid at his job. Hopefully we can get some outgoings soon other than kane so we can finally spend that 2.5mil on the young CB.

 

[Japhet]

I've probably cut Levy more slack than most, but if Kane goes and he doesn't deliver 2 quality CBs and a decent forward at the bare minimum, I'll happily hop over the fence to the 'Levy out' side.