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The ousting of Daniel (COYS)

thelak

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I'd disagree that the fanbase do want him out. I've never spoken to anyone who does. I suppose we all live in different circles.

I disagree with a lot of what he does but also he has done a lot of good for the club. I'd prefer him to the owners at Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and probably most others. I don't want to be bank rolled or sold to some petrol state or some US fund.

His decisions on managers has been his mistake not his purse strings.
You need to stop hanging out with Arsenal fans mate
 

dickieven

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Mar 31, 2006
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And I’m very grateful I’ve never met such a person. Can’t believe how any fan can endorse the way he treats fans (sorry, customers).

The fact you think he is any different to the Liverpool owners is just wild tbf
Unfortunately I have a number of Liverpool fan friends. They treat their owners the same way we treat ours. The grass is always greener,
 

SirNiNyHotspur

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Unfortunately I have a number of Liverpool fan friends. They treat their owners the same way we treat ours. The grass is always greener,
Comparing our fans with Liverpool fans given what each has acheived in the last 23 years is apple and oranges, load of nonsense and insulting to fans who have every right to pissed with ENIC and rightly questions their ambitions given the lies and failures over many many years with no end in sight, I would love to take that greener chance... If we had won what Liverpool won and our fans were 'moaning' I would agree with your sentiment...
 

sundanceyid10

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I’m not sure many teams could put out an almost complete second string against a near full strength Fulham team and get a result.

im not saying we have good enough strength in depth but I think that result has made people exaggerate how lacking we might be.

Any one of those players who played v fulham could probdbly slip into our first team and although not be at the same level, they wouldnt horrendously prejudicial. (Sanchez proving that re Brentford for example, PEH when coming off the bench).

building a full squad is far harder than building a first xi and I think people have got carried away with how much is achievable in one window.

And all of this of course, is discussion without any understanding of what Ange is saying he wants/needs.
Yeah fix it in the next window, then the window after that, then the one after that. Then just when we have scrapped by with the bare minimum for a few years Maddison and Bissouma will want out as we haven’t shown enough ambition. Then Levy can announce a new overhaul, new manager and the cycle can once again start over. Levy and ENIC will have profited mind you but we will still be without trophies.

It really is hard to understand why Kane and many other greats don’t want to stick around …..
 

thebenjamin

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I think Daniel is a genuinely interesting psychological case. He gets us close, he has everything in place, even when he gets the right people, makes some good decisions, learns from his mistakes and he's on the verge of cracking it, when it comes to really going for it he just can't bring himself to go through with it.

I think there's some deep rooted trauma in there where he doesn't really feel like he's worthy of success. And that translates into self sabotage, just when he's starting to get the taste of success. It terrifies him. So he'll pore over the details of a deal and convince himself it's in the club's best interests not to do it, but in truth he is so deeply lacking in self worth that he cannot allow himself to succeed as his psyche couldn't tolerate it.

Deep down in his subconscious, Daniel hates himself and his guardianship of Tottenham Hotspur is him playing out his traumas with us all along for the ride. Getting close but then fucking yourself over right at the last hurdle, it's what he does. It's repeated behaviour. It will never stop.
 
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sundanceyid10

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I think Daniel is a genuinely interesting psychological case. He gets us close, he has everything in place, he gets the right people in but when it comes to really going for it he just can't do it.

I think there's some deep rooted trauma in there where he doesn't really feel like he's worthy of success. And that translates into self sabotage, just when he's starting to get the taste of success. It terrifies him. So he'll pore over the details of a deal and convince himself it's in the club's best interests not to do it, but in truth he is so deeply lacking in self worth that he cannot allow himself to succeed as his psyche couldn't tolerate it.

Deep down in his subconscious, Daniel hates himself and Tottenham Hotspur is him plaguing out his traumas with us all along for the ride. Getting close but then fucking yourself over right at the last hurdle, it's what he does. It's repeated behaviour and we're all dragged along for the ride.
Gets the right people in ? Mourinho, Nuno, Conte + a long list of god awful shite players that we can’t give away….. all on his watch.
 

Spursmatty87

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Maybe Levy should have invested in a good salesman by now as the lack of movement out over the last years has been ridiculous.
 

bubble07

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So 70m net spend plus selling our best player in PL history. Great work Levy

7 teams including Bournemouth and Burnley have net spent more

No doubt he will count Porro and kulu again this year. Reckon he will count them every year until they leave

I know it's not just about money but we know he has left yet another manager yet again very short

This whole dier needs to go to get a centre back is total bs as he won't even be registered
 

KingNick

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Jun 15, 2008
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Am I right in thinking he never engages with the Trust on issues around first team recruitment?

surely they need to start pushing back on that - as should the new Fan Advisory Board members.

there are some very basic questions that I think need answering just to help us even begin to understand how we end up in certain situations.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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No surprised really.

Daniel halfmeasures Levy. Never changes.

I know we have potential HG issues and we need to shift some on but come on.

There is ALWAYS an excuse. And I am sorry but that means there has been a failure.

Ambitious people and football clubs find a way of getting stuff done.

They take short term risks if needed.

Unfortunately we are owned by people who refuse to take risks ans when they do, and it doesnt work, prefer to revert back to type.

The CB situation is an absolute shambles.

Ange said we needed another. That means discussions were had and more then likely, some assurances were made.

That was over 2 weeks ago and since then the club appears to have really not done much rather than rely on agents to help get it done.

I get the HG route but if we had very limited options then we should have thought os other solutions.

We now have to pray that neither of Romero or VDV get injured before January.
 

Misfit

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May 7, 2006
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It is what it is. Until he and ENIC go, we'll be a property and entertainment company with a football club attached.

Him getting the stadium has probably made things worse in regards to the footballing side. The club has a huge baseline value now which few will even contemplate meeting IMO.
 

robin09

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Jun 4, 2005
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Not buying a CB cos we haven’t sold Sanchez, and turning down bids for Sanchez because we haven’t signed a CB. Very Levy.
 

strader

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Same old same old, but what can we do 🤬.

It is astonishing to think the same old strategy which never works of trying in the last minute.

As long as Enic and Levy is in charge, it will be just disheartening for the playing side.

Years ago, we were ahead of Liverpool, Arsenal and on per with United. Now we are rubbing shoulders with Villa and Brighton.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I think Daniel is a genuinely interesting psychological case. He gets us close, he has everything in place, even when he gets the right people, and he's on the verge of getting it right, when it comes to really going for it he just can't do it.

I think there's some deep rooted trauma in there where he doesn't really feel like he's worthy of success. And that translates into self sabotage, just when he's starting to get the taste of success. It terrifies him. So he'll pore over the details of a deal and convince himself it's in the club's best interests not to do it, but in truth he is so deeply lacking in self worth that he cannot allow himself to succeed as his psyche couldn't tolerate it.

Deep down in his subconscious, Daniel hates himself and his guardianship of Tottenham Hotspur is him playing out his traumas with us all along for the ride. Getting close but then fucking yourself over right at the last hurdle, it's what he does. It's repeated behaviour. It will never stop.
You’ve actually nailed it to be fair 😂

Also he’s a ‘blue’ personality so he can’t make quick decisions he over analyses and overthinks everything, Ange’s red personality will have helped balance that out a bit this window but ultimately with dear Daniel calling the shots we will get the same outcome time and again.
 

13VanDerBale13

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Jul 12, 2011
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Maybe just maybe, those who assume every year/new manager, things will be different, are starting to come to the realisation, it won’t be 🤦🏼‍♀️

Maybe then everyone can come together & make a stand against him.
 

alfie103

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Based on your logic, If winning is more important, then why don't you chose to support someone else? Did you chose to deliberately be condescending?

I'm a spurs fan. So why would I chose to go and watch someone else?

I was at 2 cup final wins, 98/99 was nowhere near 16/17. We won a trophy in one of those seasons. I know which one I preferred.

I apologise for being condescending in my responses.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Maybe just maybe, those who assume every year/new manager, things will be different, are starting to come to the realisation, it won’t be 🤦🏼‍♀️
Nope. Just a Stockholm syndrome forever loop mate.

Levy is playing a blinder. Leaves all the key business until the final day gets us all hot under the collar with attempts at all sorts of signings (none of which are realistic) then either we sign no one at all or just Johnson which we drag out until the very last minute so that the fans are begging that at least that deal gets done…

Expectations are lowered, what we actually need and have needed since day 1 of the summer window (2xCB’s) is forgotten and we all carry on until we fuck up on the pitch due to the manager being hamstrung, in this case at CB.

Then we all clamour to try and fix it during the next window and the cycle repeats and repeats, meanwhile we don’t compete or win any trophies and drift between 4-8th in the league, whilst Levy and ENIC continue to turn a bigger and bigger profit.

He knows EXACTLY what he is doing and our fans fall for it or just submissively accept it over and over.
 
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