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worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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I'd say it's their defence. They are being called on a hell of a lot, I've watched a number of their last games and they are doing much more last ditch defending.

They are like a really old plastic chair that is constantly been sat on by obese ppl, yet somehow, against all odds they are withstanding the pressure, but surely they will buckle before term ends?
Whoa! Mr Creosote has just entered the building.
 

glacierSpurs

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hope it's not OOT, but just being curious, where was Vardy last season actually? how could someone his age being so speedy yet there was no mention of him last season? normally speed monsters gets some mention even if they are shit isn't it?
 

southlondonyiddo

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Our points per game in the matches immediately following EL games is higher than our average across the whole season.

Cannot be bothered to look but I'd wager we have gained a lot more points around the time of no EL games than when we have had EL games to think about

Wasn't our 6 wins on the bounce during the EL break?
 

southlondonyiddo

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Our points per game in the matches immediately following EL games is higher than our average across the whole season.

After EL games

P10 W5 D3 L2 = 18pts = 1.8 points per game. Av PPG this season = 1.97


I would also add that we didn't take Dortmund seriously and thus won the 2 games after these fixtures which we may not have won had we played our strongest XI v the Germans

There is no doubt we dropped many league points due to the EL and this could cost us very dearly come the end of the season
 

glacierSpurs

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Vardy had a good season last year in the Premiership with Leicester City, you been on a desert island?
I see.. just saw he only scored a meagre 5 goals last year.....

but I'm blown away by your guess on where I have been, cos indeed Singapore is one little hot island! :depressed:
 

Teddysmith

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They are like a really old plastic chair that is constantly been sat on by obese ppl, yet somehow, against all odds they are withstanding the pressure, but surely they will buckle before term ends?
That is my favourite description of Leicester ever!!
 

nightgoat

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After EL games

P10 W5 D3 L2 = 18pts = 1.8 points per game. Av PPG this season = 1.97


I would also add that we didn't take Dortmund seriously and thus won the 2 games after these fixtures which we may not have won had we played our strongest XI v the Germans

There is no doubt we dropped many league points due to the EL and this could cost us very dearly come the end of the season

One of those defeats was against Palace in the FA Cup, where no points were available. You've added a extra game which incorrectly distorts the stat. 18 points from 9 games = 2ppg.
 

Matrix

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Comparing them to Greece and Chelsea is a bit OTT as its proven that it requires more luck to win a cup - In both examples Greece nor Chelsea were not the best teams in their respective competitions but a mixture of playing well on the day and favourable draws meant that luck played a huge part.

To win a league campaign you require consistency as its based over more matches and you play everyone twice over the space of 9 months so that requires more than luck...how many league winners do you know haven't been the best team to win their league compared to cup winners?

League tables don't lie, Leicester have the highest points total in the league at the moment as they've managed to do what everyone else hasn't done therefore they are currently the best team and whoever wins the league deserves to

Will agree to disagree. As someone mentioned before , they have found a formula to win. Not the best way but the most consistent. IMO it don't make them the best team.
In contrast Chelsea last year were undoubtedly the best team. Dominating and ruthless (Not against us though obviously).
Anyway as you were..
 

Lighty64

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Don't forget we still have to play Southampton too!

by time we play Southampton, they will know if they have any chance to qualify for Europe or not, when they play Leicester they still have to fight that bit harder to make sure they have a chance. at the moment Stoke and Southampton need to take over either Man U or Wet Spam to get a place. if Everton get to the Cup Final, their chances go down big time as only 6th spot will get the extra place due to Man C winning the CoC. by the time Southampton play us they might have very little to play for
 

Shadydan

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Will agree to disagree. As someone mentioned before , they have found a formula to win. Not the best way but the most consistent. IMO it don't make them the best team.
In contrast Chelsea last year were undoubtedly the best team. Dominating and ruthless (Not against us though obviously).
Anyway as you were..

The consistent team normally means the best team as they have the most points :D

But opinions and all that I suppose :)
 

Lighty64

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It's not even Vardy being their dangerman at the moment. He's completely dried up after that record breaking run - four goals in their last 15 league games. Mahrez is totally carrying Leicester now.

and managers like Koeman, Allerdyce, Billic, LvG, and Hiddink will make sure that they try and give him as little space, or gets more attention.

if Leicester get the 1st goal against those 5 teams, there is a very good chance they will need to get a 2nd or a 3rd, unless they nick it late on like they did against us. they have only scored more than 2 goals in the league 8 times all season, and only twice in 2016. they might do what they did to Newcastle and get 1 chance and score it, but no guarantees, just like there are no guarantees we are going to claw the 5pts back, but this squad will definitely create enough chances per game to give us a chance.

so far this year Leicester have only had 2 teams sit back and try and frustrate them, Newcastle never really sat back as much as Norwich and probably WBA, but when WBA went 2-1 down they managed to create chances and nick a draw. whatever the case at the moment Leicester know they still have to win games, they can't afford to try and get 7 draws, they still need to win 3 or 4 games, unless we drop points, the 5 managers above all want points, so are not going to make it easy for them, as those that we still have to play won't, but we will definitely create more chances than them to get those points
 

Spurger King

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and managers like Koeman, Allerdyce, Billic, LvG, and Hiddink will make sure that they try and give him as little space, or gets more attention.

if Leicester get the 1st goal against those 5 teams, there is a very good chance they will need to get a 2nd or a 3rd, unless they nick it late on like they did against us. they have only scored more than 2 goals in the league 8 times all season, and only twice in 2016. they might do what they did to Newcastle and get 1 chance and score it, but no guarantees, just like there are no guarantees we are going to claw the 5pts back, but this squad will definitely create enough chances per game to give us a chance.

so far this year Leicester have only had 2 teams sit back and try and frustrate them, Newcastle never really sat back as much as Norwich and probably WBA, but when WBA went 2-1 down they managed to create chances and nick a draw. whatever the case at the moment Leicester know they still have to win games, they can't afford to try and get 7 draws, they still need to win 3 or 4 games, unless we drop points, the 5 managers above all want points, so are not going to make it easy for them, as those that we still have to play won't, but we will definitely create more chances than them to get those points

Yep. It was only a few weeks ago that people started to see Leicester as the favourite rather than plucky underdogs on a great run, and their performances would have been analysed in depth once it became apparent that they were one-trick ponies.

Since teams started to take them more seriously their performances have really dropped off. This is a team that dropped 2 points to an awful West Brom only a short while ago FFS! We've had a whole season of strong teams coming at us, and weaker teams sitting back. They haven't...until now.

They're clear favourites given their current position, and we have an outside chance, but I'd be less confident if they were romping their way to comfortable victories every weekend. They're clinging on by tooth and nail, and are one loss and one draw from being caught. They'll drop more than 5 points between now and the end of the season, and if we win our next two difficult games I think we'll do it.

Have to get at least 3 points from Liverpool and United, and realistically 4-6.
 

Lighty64

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Yep. It was only a few weeks ago that people started to see Leicester as the favourite rather than plucky underdogs on a great run, and their performances would have been analysed in depth once it became apparent that they were one-trick ponies.

Since teams started to take them more seriously their performances have really dropped off. This is a team that dropped 2 points to an awful West Brom only a short while ago FFS! We've had a whole season of strong teams coming at us, and weaker teams sitting back. They haven't...until now.

They're clear favourites given their current position, and we have an outside chance, but I'd be less confident if they were romping their way to comfortable victories every weekend. They're clinging on by tooth and nail, and are one loss and one draw from being caught. They'll drop more than 5 points between now and the end of the season, and if we win our next two difficult games I think we'll do it.

Have to get at least 3 points from Liverpool and United, and realistically 4-6.

yep definitely need 4-6 out our next 2, we have gone on 2 amazing runs this season 14 games unbeaten (unfortunately 8 draws), to then lose from a very poor 2nd half, and 2 bad goals conceded. Then 6 straight wins, to then lose against a team that every year the 1st fixture they look for where playing us for the final time at their place.

if the season finished tomorrow I would say overall, too many draws up to December, losing to Newcastle, losing to Leicester in the 83rd min, and not killing the goons off twice, but especially the home 1 with them down to 10 men.

I find hard enough to believe after 31 games we have only lost 4 games lol, but to think Leicester have only lost 3 is more amazing, as the 4 we have lost, only 1 of them we wasn't the better team performance wise, though Leicester were unlucky to lose at the Library, but that bad luck has since been well paid back.
 

southlondonyiddo

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One of those defeats was against Palace in the FA Cup, where no points were available. You've added a extra game which incorrectly distorts the stat. 18 points from 9 games = 2ppg.

Stick your incorrectly distorted stats where the sun don't shine :)

How about just admitting that taking the EL seriously early and mid season may well cost us the only chance of a league title in most of our lifetimes? Or maybe just admit that maybe it cost us an FA Cup this season?
 

Spurger King

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yep definitely need 4-6 out our next 2, we have gone on 2 amazing runs this season 14 games unbeaten (unfortunately 8 draws), to then lose from a very poor 2nd half, and 2 bad goals conceded. Then 6 straight wins, to then lose against a team that every year the 1st fixture they look for where playing us for the final time at their place.

if the season finished tomorrow I would say overall, too many draws up to December, losing to Newcastle, losing to Leicester in the 83rd min, and not killing the goons off twice, but especially the home 1 with them down to 10 men.

I find hard enough to believe after 31 games we have only lost 4 games lol, but to think Leicester have only lost 3 is more amazing, as the 4 we have lost, only 1 of them we wasn't the better team performance wise, though Leicester were unlucky to lose at the Library, but that bad luck has since been well paid back.

If we were chasing Oil Money or Arsenal, everyone would be talking about the value of experience at such a critical period of the season.

Instead, this point seems to have been brushed under the carpet to favour the fairy tale story of a Leicester victory. They were terrible against Newcastle, and for the first time there was palpable tension emerging from the stands. They could plough on regardless, but this could also be the point where all of the mental frailties that resulted in them ending up at Leicester in the first place reach critical point.

I'll take my hat off to them if they keep grinding out results, but I have never seen a team better primed for a collapse (and this is based on visual evidence). All we can do is keep winning and applying the pressure.
 
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