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millsey

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Dec 8, 2005
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If up top really dont think poch is what they thought, i would just say go and get Benitez now. We are 4 points off champs league places and the season could actually be saved
 

yojambo

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Jun 13, 2012
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I'm not calling for us to be top of the league, all I want is to see us make some progress on the pitch, but we have'nt progressed this season one bit, if anything we have gone backwards.

I'm all for giving a manager time, but it has to be the right manager and there has to be signs of progression, otherwise it's just giving a manager time for the sake of it.

I appreciate your outlook, i agree that it would be nice to see some cohesion within the team. I still think Pochettino will come good, let him build his own team and see where we are in 3 years time.
 

millsey

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I appreciate your outlook, i agree that it would be nice to see some cohesion within the team. I still think Pochettino will come good, let him build his own team and see where we are in 3 years time.
3 years playing like today. Ill be watching Rugby league long before that
 

markiespurs

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Jul 9, 2008
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I appreciate your outlook, i agree that it would be nice to see some cohesion within the team. I still think Pochettino will come good, let him build his own team and see where we are in 3 years time.

I like your optimism about Poch and really wish I could share it

I just think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one though.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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I like your optimism about Poch and really wish I could share it

I just think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one though.
It's all subjective. At the end of the day, it's down to Levy/Lewis anyway. Difficulty for Levy will be accepting that yet again, he has made the wrong choice (not saying that I want Poch out at all, I really don't fancy yet another change).
 

Nocando

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On what single basis so far can you say that? choice of captain, buying Fazio and Stambouli? dropping our best defender
Vertonghan? Playing Adebayor constantly? playing too strong a team in Europe? not playing two up top in home games?
tell me why he should have more time?

Cough @thinktank cough
 

JayB

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What really irks me is that we have brought in a manager who is well known for stubbornly adhering to a rigid philosophy, and that we expect him to make it work with a squad that has been cobbled together by a committee whose purpose is to buy players that will be profitable, rather than players that suit our footballing needs. In order for a manager like Poch to be successful, he needs to be given financial backing and total control over the playing staff, two things that are totally anathema to the way that Levy runs the club.

If Levy was intent on persisting with with the current structure, what he really needed to do was bring in an experienced, pragmatic manager who can take a hodgepodge of players and figure out a way for them to function coherently, and we've basically chosen to do the opposite of that with Pochettino. There is a total mismatch between the structure of the club and the needs of the manager, and unless that changes (it won't) this project is destined for failure.
 
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TH1239

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What really irks me is that we have brought in a manager who is well known for stubbornly adhering to a rigid philosophy, and that expect him to make it work with a squad that has been cobbled together by a committee whose purpose is to buy players that will be profitable, rather than players that suit our footballing needs. In order to a manager like Poch to be successful, he needs to be given financial backing and total control over the playing staff, two things that are totally anathema to the way that Levy runs the club.

If Levy was intent on persisting with with the current structure, what he really needed to do was bring in an experienced, pragmatic manager who can take a hodgepodge of players and figure out a way for them to function coherently, and we've basically chosen to do the opposite of that with Pochettino. There is a total mismatch between the structure of the club and the needs of the manager, and unless that changes (it won't) this project is doomed for failure.

This was why opting for Pochettino over De Boer was utter madness and why questions needs to be asked why Levy would opt for Poch. It reeks of no due diligence of a serious nature being done. Pochettino will fail unless he's backed in the transfer market. No net spend is one thing, but not selling players for a loss, which Levy really is unlikely to do, means virtually no ability to reshape the squad.
 

Lo Amo Speroni

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I wanted Benitez, said as much often but and its a big but let's not even think about getting rid of Poch until he has had plenty of time to get the team he wants playing the way he wants. He has to have at least two seasons.
 

TropicalYid

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So disappointed. We are shit. What are poch doing? Dont understand his team selection or tactics.
 

Bobbins

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@thinktank You made me dream (for about 5 minutes admittedly) it might be different this time you git :cry:

There was a time when men were kind
When their voices were soft
And their words inviting
There was a time when love was blind
And the world was a song
And the song was exciting
There was a time
Then it all went wrong

I dreamed a dream in time gone by
When hope was high
And life worth living
I dreamed that love would never die
I dreamed that God would be forgiving

Then I was young and unafraid
So dreams were made and used and wasted
There was no ransom to be paid
No song unsung
No wine untasted

But the tigers come at night
With their voices soft as thunder
As they tear your hope apart
And they turn your dream to shame

He slept a summer by my side
He filled my days with endless wonder
He took my childhood in his stride
But he was gone when autumn came
And still I dream he'll come to me
That we will live the years together
But there are dreams that cannot be
And there are storms we cannot weather

I had a dream my life would be
So different from this hell I'm living
So different now from what it seemed
Now life has killed
The dream I dreamed

:cry:
 

gibbospurs

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Aug 28, 2010
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I think the real question here is has Poch lost the dressing room?? The little effort the guys show for him seem to suggest he has or very nearly. If he has then how can we keep him on?
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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@thinktank You made me dream (for about 5 minutes admittedly) it might be different this time you git :cry:

There was a time when men were kind
When their voices were soft
And their words inviting
There was a time when love was blind
And the world was a song
And the song was exciting
There was a time
Then it all went wrong

I dreamed a dream in time gone by
When hope was high
And life worth living
I dreamed that love would never die
I dreamed that God would be forgiving

Then I was young and unafraid
So dreams were made and used and wasted
There was no ransom to be paid
No song unsung
No wine untasted

But the tigers come at night
With their voices soft as thunder
As they tear your hope apart
And they turn your dream to shame

He slept a summer by my side
He filled my days with endless wonder
He took my childhood in his stride
But he was gone when autumn came
And still I dream he'll come to me
That we will live the years together
But there are dreams that cannot be
And there are storms we cannot weather

I had a dream my life would be
So different from this hell I'm living
So different now from what it seemed
Now life has killed
The dream I dreamed

:cry:

Oh, mop it up you blouse. We're gonna win the fucking league!!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
























:cry:..:cry::cry:...:cry::cry::cry:...:arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh::arghh:
 

VegasII

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I think the real question here is has Poch lost the dressing room?? The little effort the guys show for him seem to suggest he has or very nearly. If he has then how can we keep him on?

Could be both. They've lost him and he's lost them.
 

whitesocks

The past means nothing. This is a message for life
Jan 16, 2014
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Think its all bollocks lewis appointed poch, He has no interest in football and probably doesnt know the difference between Poch and Mourinho
I imagine Lewis got a taste for it when he allegedly sacked Redknapp for non football reasons.

And the silly money Bale was suddenly worth would certainly have increased his interest.
MP would have told him he can make even more with Lamela.
How could he resist?
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
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Time for Levy to move on.

Despite his undoubted good work, he HAS to be held responsible for mess,

And it really is a mess.

I don;t want to agree, because I was pretty supportive of him post Bale sale. But I am rapidly drifting to agreeing with you.
 
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