The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread - 15/16 June 2013

[$hoguN]

Why?

Because people fail to realise that a) football is a squad game and b) that Holtby and Siggy can both play a number of positions.

 

[samsonlevi]

Because for the amount we'll be paying for Paulinho he'll be a starter along side dembele and sandro, so Sig and holtby will get put on the bench and I don't think they'll stick around too long if that's the case. Both are 22,23 and so need game time. I'm fully aware you also need a strong bench but they will wanna play. Just my opinion though.

Honestly how often does ANY team just survive the whole season on the same starting 11??? Its clear that hudd and Livermore will be offered to go and possibly Parker!!

Also injuries do occur during the season !!

 

[Greenspur]

My mate's dad's lawyer's golfing partner's goldfish says we're replacing Levy with a microwave. Everybody panic...

It had better be a microwave that spends money.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Paulinho will give us options. Last season AVB had to start Dembele when he was fit as we didn't have any other strong box to box players. Paulinho will mean more opportunity for rotation without weakening the starting 11.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Are there any mods about? I'd quite like a 24 hour ban, so I can get on with some work. My willpower is not strong enough to keep me away, and the jobs I have to do are rather pressing...

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

Jonathon Norcroft from one of the papers linking us with McCarthy of Wigan today. Says we're front runners - happy to bid 15m., but Wigan want 20m. Also says Fulham had 8m. offer turned down and that Mancini would have gone for him if he had stayed on at City

Personally - I think he's very good and would be perfect for us. I also think we could get him for 10m. 15m. sounds far too much to me.

 

[$hoguN]

Paulinho will give us options. Last season AVB had to start Dembele when he was fit as we didn't have any other strong box to box players. Paulinho will mean more opportunity for rotation without weakening the starting 11.

Mourinho got it spot on a few years back when he said if you want a successful team you need to have two players for every position. Signing Paulinho will bring us closer to that.

 

[Bobbins]

Paulinho will give us options. Last season AVB had to start Dembele when he was fit as we didn't have any other strong box to box players. Paulinho will mean more opportunity for rotation without weakening the starting 11.

Actually I think he could've utilised Holtby a lot more in that position, but didn't seem to fancy him.

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Holtby was never at the races imo. Rather than AVB not fancying him, it just looked like he was out of kilter.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

I think it was more the case of playing it safe with Holtby. Joining mid-season meant it would have been a lot more hectic/unpredictable in trying to bed him into CM I imagine. PLus, after his initial buzz of promise he lost confidence quite quickly and that only came back towards the end of the season.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Are there any mods about? I'd quite like a 24 hour ban, so I can get on with some work. My willpower is not strong enough to keep me away, and the jobs I have to do are rather pressing...

Are you sure you want banning for a whole week?

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Are you sure you want banning for a whole week?

if I shut up now can we forget the whole thing?

 

[Lilbaz]

Are there any mods about? I'd quite like a 24 hour ban, so I can get on with some work. My willpower is not strong enough to keep me away, and the jobs I have to do are rather pressing...

Never met anyone so dedicated to taking the garbage out and walking the dog. I salute you sir!

 

[Indisguise]

Are there any mods about? I'd quite like a 24 hour ban, so I can get on with some work. My willpower is not strong enough to keep me away, and the jobs I have to do are rather pressing...

Are you sure you want banning for a whole week?

You are the proud recipient of my very first "doh" rating!

 

[Sum Monsterism]

Never met anyone so dedicated to taking the garbage out and walking the dog. I salute you sir!

taking the garbage out? naaah **puts on a&c's voice** she's gone to see her dad for fathers day. backscuttle. dwarf. itk or else.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

You are the proud recipient of my very first "doh" rating!

Thanks. And much appreciated it is too

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

if I shut up now can we forget the whole thing?

But of course. But if you change your mind and want banning for a month, let me know

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Jonathon Norcroft from one of the papers linking us with McCarthy of Wigan today. Says we're front runners - happy to bid 15m., but Wigan want 20m. Also says Fulham had 8m. offer turned down and that Mancini would have gone for him if he had stayed on at City

Personally - I think he's very good and would be perfect for us. I also think we could get him for 10m. 15m. sounds far too much to me.

The final figure is always misleading anyway. We all know no football club cuts a straight cheque for 20m quid. Part of the reason negotiations go on so long is because it would end up being something like:

8m up front
2m more in 12 months
2m more in 24 months
2m more if we qualify for CL and McCarthy plays 20+ games next season
Same for the season after that
2m when he plays 100 games for Spurs
1m when he plays 200 games for Spurs
1m when he scores 10 goals for the club

That is much more easy to swallow.

 

[Lilbaz]

Would be nice if he was having meetings with agents or chairmen though.

 

[Lilbaz]

The final figure is always misleading anyway. We all know no football club cuts a straight cheque for 20m quid. Part of the reason negotiations go on so long is because it would end up being something like:

8m up front
2m more in 12 months
2m more in 24 months
2m more if we qualify for CL and McCarthy plays 20+ games next season
Same for the season after that
2m when he plays 100 games for Spurs
1m when he plays 200 games for Spurs
1m when he scores 10 goals for the club

That is much more easy to swallow.

Also may include signing on fee/agents fee or his wages. Or just a made up figure.