The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread 4th/5th July 2015

[LexingtonSpurs]

Is that good odds?

Skybet has us at 8/15 - you bet 15 to win 8

Southampton is at 6/4 - bet 4 to win 6

By bookies standards, we are prohibitive favorites to sign TA right now

 

[sundanceyid10]

Watford itk saying stambouli and capoue deal done for £13.5m. Should be announced in the next couple of days.

Fine bit of business if we have got that for the pair of them.

 

[carpediem991]

Kramer and Son would be incredible business. I'd easily splash 35m for that pairing. Not going to happen though. What a shame.

To sell Capoue and Stambouli is another good piece of business and I had not thought that we can shift them so early in the window. If this is going to be confirmed we already got about 30m for Paul, Capoue, Holtby, Stambouli and Falque. Aim now has to be to replace them with Alli, Pritchard, Winks/ Carroll, Milos and a class player in the 20-25m region.

 

[BedfordshireSpud]

........less a few million in wages.

Had the benefit of some tax write-downs though - always makes Levy happy.

 

[whitestreak]

Hardly a dead cert then!

Bet £4 to get £1 back (plus stake)
That is a firm favourite! 1-4 on

 

[razor1981]

Two cabbages, one smaller than the other but from the same grocery

Savoy Cabbage & Brussels Sprouts are two common varieties of cabbage. The Savoy being considerably larger than the sprout.

Savoy was a historical feudal territory of the House of Savoy during the 11th - 18th centuries, of which Turin was the capital from 1563 onwards.

Brussels is... well, Brussels.

So maybe the cryptic refers to players from Turin and Brussels.

"From the same grocery" could mean they're represented by the same agency.

A couple of players we've been linked to recently, Llorente (currently of Juventus, Turin) and Mitrovic (currently playing for Anderlecht in Brussels) are both represented by Mondial Sport Management.

So that's my guess.

One other possible combination I've thought of using the same line of reasoning as above (though maybe a little more tenuous):

Monaco was once a protectorate under the House of Savoy, so...

Big cabbage = Yannick Ferreira Carrasco (Monaco)
Little cabbage = Youri Tielemans (Anderlecht)
Grocer = Christophe Henrotay (agent for both players)

 

[robin09]

Wow, pretty solid signings for them. Don't think we'd sell both without another CM imminent though

Solid signings, but behind them, as the last line of defence, lurks the octopus.

 

[225]

Kramer and Son would be incredible business. I'd easily splash 35m for that pairing. Not going to happen though. What a shame.

To sell Capoue and Stambouli is another good piece of business and I had not thought that we can shift them so early in the window. If this is going to be confirmed we already got about 30m for Paul, Capoue, Holtby, Stambouli and Falque. Aim now has to be to replace them with Alli, Pritchard, Winks/ Carroll, Milos and a class player in the 20-25m region.

falque???

we sold him a year ago

 

[Spurger King]

falque???

we sold him a year ago

I think there was some news about receiving an extra million from his latest transfer.

 

[chrissivad]

falque???

we sold him a year ago

wasnt there some sell on fee we could be getting for him?

 

[225]

wasnt there some sell on fee we could be getting for him?

he hasn't been sold, he's going on loan.

noticed that @gilzeantheking is quick to hand out neg reps for useful info.... As per norm

 

[cliff jones]

But Son has not got anything to do with small cabbage, other than they have a cabbage dish in Korea. If he was Irish you could link him by saying in Ireland they have Colcannon. Of if we was from El Salvador we could link him to Curtido and so on... you can't link a player just because his compatriots eat cabbage and have a dish named after it.

The alternative is even more tenuous, that a) Kramer is a Kraut (can kind of work, but not as the lynch-pin to the whole clue), and that son could mean small, but obviously doesn't at all - I'm a son and I'm full grown.

Finally the fact that we haven't been linked at all is not what makes the guesses stronger, but what makes them even more terrible, because frankly they're now random. The only chance whatsoever of guessing correctly is if we assume they are already linked to us. Otherwise you can guess any two players just about and probably find a national dish of cabbage or whatever...

dear mr sloth

dont downplay the koreans fondness for cabbage, of the pickled variety. its the national dish and passion. just so you know.

 

[glospur]

Skybet has us at 8/15 - you bet 15 to win 8

Southampton is at 6/4 - bet 4 to win 6

By bookies standards, we are prohibitive favorites to sign TA right now

Decimal odds are so much easier to understand and calculate. Whenever I've read odds as they arte presented in England I've never understood them until I read your post.

 

[PrettyColors]

So we sold the two midfielders who play even a semblance of "defensive midfielder"

I understand they may not be up to scratch, but without a defensive midfielder, we will not achieve our aspirations. Perhaps a lot of faith in Veljkovic?

 

[branchie]

falque???

we sold him a year ago

We got a sell on fee

 

[chrissivad]

he hasn't been sold, he's going on loan.

noticed that @gilzeantheking is quick to hand out neg reps for useful info.... As per norm

its why i said we could be getting for him.

If he plays for them (im guessing a competitive game) then they activate a buy out and will pay another 7million Euros for him

 

[gilzeantheking]

he hasn't been sold, he's going on loan.

noticed that @gilzeantheking is quick to hand out neg reps for useful info.... As per norm

It was a fat finger error - but hey ho

 

[225]

We got a sell on fee

Not yet we haven't - he hasn't been sold.

its why i said we could be getting for him.

If he plays for them (im guessing a competitive game) then they activate a buy out and will pay another 7million Euros for him

It'll be a little more complicated than that, otherwise they wouldn't bother with the paperwork. As an example, it took almost a year for Holtby's transfer to be 'activated' in similar circumstances. It wouldn't surprise me if he was sold on to Roma with some dodgy levy-style deal than meant we got 15% of nothing.

It was a fat finger error - but hey ho

If that's the case I apologise, but it's around the 5th time I've received that rating from you on similar posts.

 

[razor1981]

It'll be a little more complicated than that, otherwise they wouldn't bother with the paperwork.

It isn't. From Roma's official website:

AS Roma SpA announces that the club have signed a loan agreement with Genoa CFC SpA for the services of Iago Falqué Silva until June 30, 2016 for a fee of €1 million. The agreement also includes a commitment to buy the player permanently for a further fee of €7 million once he makes at least one competitive appearance for the club. Finally, the agreement also includes a performance-related bonus of a maximum of €1 million should the player reach certain targets.

 

[kr1978]

Not yet we haven't - he hasn't been sold.



It'll be a little more complicated than that, otherwise they wouldn't bother with the paperwork. As an example, it took almost a year for Holtby's transfer to be 'activated' in similar circumstances. It wouldn't surprise me if he was sold on to Roma with some dodgy levy-style deal than meant we got 15% of nothing.



If that's the case I apologise, but it's around the 5th time I've received that rating from you on similar posts.

It's an odd one but @chrissivad is right-it's a 1 million loan fee and then as soon as he plays one competitive game it becomes a permanent transfer for a fee of 7 million. Don't know why but that's what the reports all say