This must be a petition by bitter Wet Spammers

[LondonOllie]

You couldn't make this up! They so far have a whopping Number of signatures: 1,517

HM Government e-petition

No public funding for Tottenham Hotspurs' planned redevelopment

Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport

This petition calls on the Government to prevent any central or local public money being used to support Tottenham Hotspurs' redevelopment of its football ground. Tottenham Hotspurs is a commercial concern which receives many hundreds of £millions each year enabling its owners to purchase players for tens of £millions of pounds and pay them of £millions of pounds. None of this expenditure stays in the community. This is not a company short of money, assets or the ability to raise funds commercially. Normally when a company wishes to develop land it pays the local council to build the necessary infrastructure. Public money should not be used to support this private company nor special terms be offered. There are many better uses for public money that does not include a rarely used stadium and associated infrastructure. Support public spending on health, housing, and education for the community in Tottenham not this needless and blind free gift to a commercial company.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/14605



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[nightgoat]

Tottenham Hotspur. It's not pluralised.

 

[Dare!]

It's a Gooner apparently.

 

[lilywhitecurtis]

Yeah, this utter sad act has been posting it all over twitter.

 

[BigRed]

Didn't Arsenal get public money for the Emirates? Should they pay that back?

 

[spud]

......not this needless and blind free gift to a commercial company.

What is a 'blind free gift'? Guide dog perhaps?

 

[eViL]

I hope West Ham get promoted next year. I miss beating them.

 

[SpurSince57]

Didn't Arsenal get public money for the Emirates? Should they pay that back?

No. (They didn't get any, I mean.)

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

No. (They didn't get any, I mean.)

Although no public money was provided, the sale of Highbury must have been a large contributor to paying for the Emirates, especially when you consider the price of land and the desirability this area commands.

 

[tooey]

I kind of have to agree that the money would be better spent on health care, policing, education etc.

 

[Roberts84]

I kind of have to agree that the money would be better spent on health care, policing, education etc.

Without us in the area there wouldn't be any job. Most of the small businesses in the area benefit from us being there and we probably put more money in to the local community working with kids than the Government. So by putting it in to policing, education etc will just see it swallowed up in red tape with no real benefit.

 

[14/04/91]

Didn't Arsenal get public money for the Emirates? Should they pay that back?

No but they made a promise to pay for/towards the upgrade of the nearest tube station. And never did.

 

[SpurSince57]

One hates to be fair to the Gooners, but the reason they didn't cough up was because TfL decided against the upgrades to Holloway Road and Drayton Park. That £7m was part of their s.106 obligation, which still cost them about £60m—about four times ours.

I'm assuming the money BoJo offered is still on the table. That pretty much covered our s.106 costs, which are for infrastructure around the stadium and improvements to Tottenham Hale, not the stadium itself.

 

[tooey]

Without us in the area there wouldn't be any job. Most of the small businesses in the area benefit from us being there and we probably put more money in to the local community working with kids than the Government. So by putting it in to policing, education etc will just see it swallowed up in red tape with no real benefit.

so you think giving a club (even if it is our club) money for a shiney new stadium is the best way to directly help the regeneration of the area? How about spending some £££ on social care and policing to address the problem of crime and anti-social behavior amongst the youth in the area? If the government were funding a new stadium for say... arsenal you'd be set against it.

 

[StanSpur]

I kind of have to agree that the money would be better spent on health care, policing, education etc.

Possibly true but when you think about the overal picture of Spurs being at WHL it brings with it an investment in policing in the mandatory security measures teams are required to pay not to mention the increased presence in the area on match days being a preventative for criminal actions in the area. Also the money brought to local businesses on match days probably supports them from going under. Just think of the walk from 7 Sisters Tube to the ground. At least 4 pubs heaving, a few socials and other bars busy, all the kebab and other food stops with queues outside the door and the newsagents selling fags and cans of beer right left and centre. 38000 people spend a lot of money on their walk to the ground and 60000 would spend even more. This money is kept in the community (even that spent at McDonalds in terms of staff wages), so despite the petition saying all money from football goes out to foriegn fancy dans i'd argue that there are a lot more people on the spurs payroll that live in the local area than just the 25+ players in the squad and the local community benefits greatly from Spurs being there - the local council cannot afford to see us pick up and move into the countryside.

 

[tRiKS]

I don't think we should have public money to build the stadium.

 

[Pedro]

I don't think we should have public money to build the stadium.

Well I do. Private developers get these contributions to encourage regeneration, so why shouldn't we? Especially with all that we would give back to the community. Also remember its not just a stadium in the development. The planners have taken the piss with the the vast amount of contributions they have asked for, its a form of legal bribary, and it is this that has made the development unfeasible. The contribution we would be getting from government would be a drop in the ocean anyway, but would help us lose slightly less money.

 

[brasil_spur]

i love the £millions of pounds bit .... i'm pretty sure you'd have to write a petition in half decent english for it to be taken seriously. plus haven't we already been awarded some money - bit late isn't it?

 

[SpurSince57]

Well I do. Private developers get these contributions to encourage regeneration, so why shouldn't we? Especially with all that we would give back to the community. Also remember its not just a stadium in the development. The planners have taken the piss with the the vast amount of contributions they have asked for, its a form of legal bribary, and it is this that has made the development unfeasible. The contribution we would be getting from government would be a drop in the ocean anyway, but would help us lose slightly less money.

Our s.106 payments were around £15m, a quarter of what Arsenal had to pay, and a small fraction of the overall cost of the development. These are now being covered by the funds BoJo made available.

 

[Real_madyidd]

If the person that wrote the petition lives in Tottenham then I think the funds should go on education rather than the stadium. You cannot expect people live their lives with such poor English.