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This Week’s Manager Watch: Ryan Mason

ackie

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When we Sacked Jose, when we were 2 points off 4th place and we had these teams to play

Southampton(in terrible form)
Man City - League cup final
Sheffield Utd - (3rd worst team in PL history)
Leeds Utd - (Nothing to play for)
Wolves - (struggling with absence of striker)
Aston Villa - (Struggling and nothing to play for)
Leicester - (Team in fourth and it was always a potential cup final)

Fans weren't happy with Jose but they haven't been happy all second half of their season. You Sack Jose when Tuchel is available not because he pissed off Alli and Bale FFS!

Jose whether you like him or not, earns his money/reputation at this time of the season. In typical spurs fashion we didn't have the stomach to even be in the fucking race
Sacking jose was the right decision but wrong timing.
Like you said, either you sack him for Tuchel or let him complete the season.
Sacking him before a cup final and with a few easy games (on paper) was a disaster, specially choosing a young inexperience man to coach these poor attitude and fragile mentality players, who can't put a few passes together and are not committed and hungry for success as seen yesterday.
We are where we are because of poor leadership and attitude from the top... DL is at fault for poor decisions.
I sincerely hope he sells these players
 

ackie

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Exactly.

Levy deserves the sack for such and stupid and badly thought move, it's that simple. I honestly used to admire him a lot, but he totally fucked us up this season. With the colapse of both Chelsea and Leicester, I'm confident Mourinho would have given us that CL spot (and maybe also the Carabao cup). To sack him in order to bring Mason in during the run in has to be the most stupid move I have ever seen a football club make (okay, it's probably tied with the previous president of Barcelona hiring a company to give bad publicity to Messi and his team mates), and it's clear to me now that he needs to step down. This was fucking moronic.
DL is at fault and deserve to step down or be sacked.
It was more about money when he sacked JM
 

spurs-r-us

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Exactly.

Levy deserves the sack for such and stupid and badly thought move, it's that simple. I honestly used to admire him a lot, but he totally fucked us up this season. With the colapse of both Chelsea and Leicester, I'm confident Mourinho would have given us that CL spot (and maybe also the Carabao cup). To sack him in order to bring Mason in during the run in has to be the most stupid move I have ever seen a football club make (okay, it's probably tied with the previous president of Barcelona hiring a company to give bad publicity to Messi and his team mates), and it's clear to me now that he needs to step down. This was fucking moronic.
Oh come on. We collapsed far worse than Chelsea and Leicewter. We were toilet.
 

SlotBadger

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Said this in the match thread but does anyone else hear similarities to Boy George?

To be clear, this is about voices (not management ability)



 

BringBack_leGin

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Anybody giving grief to this guy, who has basically done the club a favour by putting himself in the firing line for 6 weeks so that they could quietly go about the manager search, who had no managerial experience but agreed to take a broken squad and see what he could do to stay the ship, and who has had to do so during our worst season in overs a decade with all the furore around ESL, Kane’s future, pandemic etc to deal with, anybody giving this guy grief deserves everything we’ve been served up this season.

He’s not the cause of any of this, he’s just the guy that stepped up when he was needed, and really the worst that can be levelled at him is that he’s clearly not ready, and we’ve had at least a few enjoyable matches amidst all the rubbish.

He will return to his old role with his head held high and a better future prospect for the experience. Some of you lot, however, this has brought out the ugly in you and I sincerely think you need to take a deep breath and start seeing the wood from the trees.
 

mkkid

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He was a bang average player , who had a awful injury.
Might as well given the job to Jamie Ohara.
We had a cup,final to win and a outside place of a cl place and we employed coneman.
Powell should of got the job over him, I’d of roll out Pleat.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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I can at least find a bit of joy in knowing a lot of you have changed your tune from when we decided to sack Mourinho before arguably the most important few weeks of our season.

I thought our bunch of world class players were being shackled by him? I thought anyone, including a bunch of you who thought you could do a better job, anyone except for Mou would get these guys firing again.

Now I see the same posters saying it was a mistake to sack Mou before the end of the season. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Enjoy the suffering it's what you all wanted. I was called an idiot for not wanting to sack Mou before the end of the season.

It's very clear that whilst that was the right decision, the timing was horribly wrong.
 

Aphex

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Anybody giving grief to this guy, who has basically done the club a favour by putting himself in the firing line for 6 weeks so that they could quietly go about the manager search, who had no managerial experience but agreed to take a broken squad and see what he could do to stay the ship, and who has had to do so during our worst season in overs a decade with all the furore around ESL, Kane’s future, pandemic etc to deal with, anybody giving this guy grief deserves everything we’ve been served up this season.

He’s not the cause of any of this, he’s just the guy that stepped up when he was needed, and really the worst that can be levelled at him is that he’s clearly not ready, and we’ve had at least a few enjoyable matches amidst all the rubbish.

He will return to his old role with his head held high and a better future prospect for the experience. Some of you lot, however, this has brought out the ugly in you and I sincerely think you need to take a deep breath and start seeing the wood from the trees.

Oh come off it. He's looking to further his career like everyone else.

I'm sorry, but him starting Winks in the league cup final was a joke. The bloke has rolled us back even further then when Jose was here. At least Jose KNEW who the bad apples were and dropped them. Winks, Alli, even Dier were out of the picture.

Mason comes back in and rewards these players poor attitudes, with them mouthing off behind the scenes, and phoning it in, by giving them a run in the team.

It is unbelievable. Mason has cost us Europa League. Jose would have got us top 6 I am convinced of it, he may have even done a special and won the cup, we will never know.

Mason has been worse than Sherwood was. At least Sherwood knew who to pick and who not to.

Mason is clueless, bringing on Doherty when Tanganga went off just summed him up. I could do a better job managing the team and I'm not even joking.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Sacking jose was the right decision but wrong timing.
Like you said, either you sack him for Tuchel or let him complete the season.
Sacking him before a cup final and with a few easy games (on paper) was a disaster, specially choosing a young inexperience man to coach these poor attitude and fragile mentality players, who can't put a few passes together and are not committed and hungry for success as seen yesterday.
We are where we are because of poor leadership and attitude from the top... DL is at fault for poor decisions.
I sincerely hope he sells these players
Agree. Should've gone much earlier, if not then should've at least had the cup final.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Lets leave off the criticism, tbh Mason has done a far better job that I thought he would given his experience and the circumstances. He's taken over in a horrible situation and given it his best and got us playing some good football in at least half the matches he's been in charge.

Lets thank him and help him to keep developing as a coach.
 

DiVaio

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When Mourinho was sacked, we were 5 points off 4th place, not 2. Since 2021 Mourinho had 1,41 points per game, with Mason we have 1,8 points per game.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Agree. Should've gone much earlier, if not then should've at least had the cup final.

Things weren't unravelling earlier in the season to justify an earlier sacking. I mean we were top of the table as we all know. The sacking was inevitable once things turned sour but end of the season would've been ideal.
 

Aphex

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When Mourinho was sacked, we were 5 points off 4th place, not 2. Since 2021 Mourinho had 1,41 points per game, with Mason we have 1,8 points per game.

Means nothing. Mason's fixtures have been really quite easy over a very small sample size. I do not think spread out over the season Mason would out perform Jose, look at who he selects in the starting line ups. For a start Ndombele wouldn't get a look in, and if it wasn't for some Ndombele magic earlier in the season we'd be even worse off.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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When Mourinho was sacked, we were 5 points off 4th place, not 2. Since 2021 Mourinho had 1,41 points per game, with Mason we have 1,8 points per game.

Not trying to take anything away from Mason as he is just an interim manager, but PPG is only relevant over the same number of games/seasons.
 

Griff001

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Things weren't unravelling earlier in the season to justify an earlier sacking. I mean we were top of the table as we all know. The sacking was inevitable once things turned sour but end of the season would've been ideal.

He should've gone after the Europa exit in my opinion.

I'm not too happy with Mason's selections at times, the continual picking of Winks and dropping of NDombele is jarring. But I can't fault the bloke, he's been put in an impossible situation and is just doing the best that he can.
 

hughy

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He's made a couple of incredibly naive decisions in regards to team selections and tactics, but I do feel a bit sorry for him and hope his confidence isn't hit too hard by this.

I know he didn't have to take the job, but he's had a rancid month or so with losing the Cup final in his second game, the ESL farce and now all the Kane talk. I hope we absorb him back in to our youth set-up when the new manager comes in, and he can go back to the basics again. I think low Championship/League 1 would be a good place to start in full-time management for Mason.
 

Gassin's finest

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There is no point criticising Mason. He's a company man who's doing what he's told to do from above. He'll get a pat on the head and sent back to the youth setup after Leicester. Its another indictment of our owners. Ryan is sound as a pound, and doesn't deserve to have this shit put on him.
 
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