Ticket price shenanigans & Spurs.

[Archibald&Crooks]

Fuck me there's enough stick on here given to people who walk out after 85 minutes so I can't begin to imagine the vitriol that'd be aimed at anyone leaving on 70 minutes or whatever. Protest schmotest.

It would be very VERY 'spurs' though (I didn't use THAT word) if we staged a walk out on 90 minutes

 

[mkkid]

Watching Tottenham isnt like going to Asda and then going to Aldi because there cheaper.
I've made an emotional connection to THFC,I still go with the same friends who I went with in the 80s.
Look around white hart lane is full of middle aged men and tourists.My son season ticket ,when up 500 pounds as soon as he turn 18.He was unemployed at the time.
We need to encourage kids into WHL,because there the supporters for the next 40-60 years.YOU can go to ropey and cup games if you can't afford, others have told me.
Football is a habit, we need to encourage youngster back in.
My friend was told at a trust meeting from pea head himself the club doesn't like season ticket holders as they don't spend money.
I agree with the Liverpool fans, if you the look at Red white and Kop,they are getting shafted, much like we are and are going to now and I fear in the new stadium.
Spurs have taken away cup credits and then the loyal point saga.They want to put up season prices by 2 percent for next year.Why they will only make 300k hardly a game changer,it's Greed pure and simple.

 

[mkkid]

Spurs haven't even announced their ticket prices for next year. One could argue that by protesting now could have an effect on any decision on ticket prices, but I think that would be a naive approach.

Potentially our last season at WHL will draw a lot of people to the ground, so it is a simple case of supply and demand. I suspect they could raise the ticket prices by £5 a game and would still sell out all games, given what's coming in terms of Wembley/MK/A.N.Other.

Personally I wouldn't walk out. I agree that footie tickets are too expensive, but so is beer, smokes, prostitutes. No one forces me (or forced me) to partake in any of them so if I want to do so then I need to find the money. I know it's not that simple and people will be priced out of the game so something should be done, but me walking out will have little impact on this. It's an industry problem, not a problem unique to Tottenham.

I also hold mixed emotions about the whole cheaper tickets for away fans thing. Why should one set of fans pay less to see the same thing but I have to pay more. I get the children and OAP argument.

The trust have indicated they want a rise of 2 percent...
The 30 is plenty is a start as we are as fans ,always effected by away cat a prices.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Maybe ticket prices should be means assessed. Those of us earning below the national average have our ticket price subsidised, and anybody who earns six figures has to pay £10k for an ST!

 

[SandroClegane]

So I work in ticket sales across the pond in soccer. Our least expensive season ticket package is USD $350 for around 20 games as we throw in cup games and a few friendlies. We also give our customers things such as autograph sessions, season ticket holder scarves, and other perks like jackets.

Our most expensive package is USD $3,350. People are willing to pay these prices and most people think these are cheap for tickets compared to other sports in the US.

It's weird to me as an outsider to see people complaining about the Liverpool tickets as frankly, they don't seem that expensive to me, especially for the quality of the product there and being a historic brand.

 

[Gbspurs]

The soaring ticket prices does have to stop though. I can barely afford to go more than a couple of times a year and that as full time worker so how can the kids and the next generation of fans afford to go?

No wonder the stadiums are getting quieter. It's full of older people who have been forced to sit down.

Won't be long until the only people who go are the wealthy and someone will be stood with cue cards telling the audience to please be quiet during the performance.

 

[nightgoat]

ENIC aren't building a new stadium to get more genuine fans in, it will be more "tourist fans" who can afford the increased prices to rake in money.

Reading in some places that the TV deal from next year will mean clubs will help up grass route support more, cannot see it myself, the game is all about profit

Except they've already announced that as the percentage split between season tickets/member tickets/away fans will match WHL the majority of the new seats will go to new season tickets. There can't be many 'tourist fans' on our 50,000-long waiting list.

 

[bomberH]

Fuck me there's enough stick on here given to people who walk out after 85 minutes so I can't begin to imagine the vitriol that'd be aimed at anyone leaving on 70 minutes or whatever. Protest schmotest.

It would be very VERY 'spurs' though (I didn't use THAT word) if we staged a walk out on 90 minutes

Like throwing our season tickets on to the pitch when we lost 4-0 at home to Blackburn.... on the last day of the season!

 

[Borks]

Even though I'm losing loyalty points each year as I'm going to less games than I did 5 years ago, I think the loyalty points scheme is fair. If you went a lot in the 90s you shouldn't be rewarded with Wembley tickets now if you go to 1 game a season. The current scheme rewards recent support for the team and ironically the majority of those who claim that Spurs have "stolen" points from them also claim to be massive Spurs fans who go home and away, which if the case, would mean that very few people would've been able to build up more points than them in a 4 year period, so are probably benefiting as much as anyone from the changes. Just because you've gone from 900 points to 500 doesn't mean you're worse off.

 

[waresy]

It is a tough one as football is big money now but it also needs to be accessible to all, or should be. our grounds would be worse places if there is just people who want to watch PL while visiting. while it is great to have new visitors and potential fans it is detriment to the atmosphere, which for me is part of going to a game.

The economics lend towards higher prices in the games. The price of shirts etc is getting ridculous now, why they need to be £55 each with 3 per season and only last one season is beyond me and rips fans off.

For me, I'm at a point where my visits to the lane are not as frequent as I'd like and mostly try to get to cup games as the club have been quite good with offering ticket packages with children's prices being much more reasonable so bringing my lad to the games becomes more realistic.

My biggest bug bear has been the early onsale dates and our favourite - StubHub. I liked the ticket exchange.
I've not seen the discussions on the loyalty points but presume it is the impact of the points dropping. A weighted system could have reflected long term loyalty as well as promoting those that are going to the games now? I certainly dont begrudge anyone able to go to finals etc when they go to more games (other than jealousy or envy on both counts).

 

[balebalebalebale]

So I work in ticket sales across the pond in soccer. Our least expensive season ticket package is USD $350 for around 20 games as we throw in cup games and a few friendlies. We also give our customers things such as autograph sessions, season ticket holder scarves, and other perks like jackets.

Our most expensive package is USD $3,350. People are willing to pay these prices and most people think these are cheap for tickets compared to other sports in the US.

It's weird to me as an outsider to see people complaining about the Liverpool tickets as frankly, they don't seem that expensive to me, especially for the quality of the product there and being a historic brand.

It's not a great comparison.

The product isn't nearly as in-demand, and mls or usl teams have to compete against up to 4 other sporting experiences in the same geographic area.

In my opinion a better comparison is baseball. When I was growing up my dad would take me to lots of Red Sox games. it was cheap and the atmosphere was raucous. Now it's heinously expensive, and the drunks and old timers who kept the place rocking are gone. Now Fenway park is basically a tourist attraction.

Now, when I moved to Pittsburgh you could get pirates tickets for 5 bucks. Now they aren't so terrible so it's a bit pricier, but the atmosphere is still great. So what's the difference? The city isn't a tourist attraction in itself (although it's a fantastic place to visit).

My point is, the benefits that the bigger pl clubs have reaped from international exposure also come with negatives. for Tottenham and the other London clubs the positives and negatives will be magnified because London is already a huge tourist attraction

Also this isn't some new phenomenon. Im guilty of it as in 2004 I went to a game at Stamford bridge (Spurs were away) as I just really wanted to see a pl game. Sat next to my dad and I were 2 Norwegian guys in man utd shirts.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Like throwing our season tickets on to the pitch when we lost 4-0 at home to Blackburn.... on the last day of the season!

I remember that, hilarious…….

 

[Dougal]

I stopped going to Stamford Bridge at £49 a ticket, must be 15 years ago now. Stopped going to the Emirates at £64 a ticket and have been greatly affected by the loyalty points thing so don't have the option anymore anyway. Been gradually priced out after regularly going to about half the away games every season. I'd go to every game if I could. In reality I couldn't get a ticket for Watford away now and that pissed me off the most as I live round the corner. I haven't become any less loyal. I have had to become more realistic. Football is too expensive.

 

[Mckenna88]

Get the whole stadium to do a 'I refuse to sit down protest throughout the game' protest

They would hate that

 

[DiscoD1882]

Just so long as everyone doesnt go at 85 minutes so I can still get my train.


Thanks

Supporter with Kids.

 

[mil1lion]

So the answer fans have to being overpriced for a season ticket is to leave a game they've paid for early? OK

 

[Hoops]

Londoners moan, northerners take action. Basically you lot are pen pushing pussies, northerners are real men.

 

[King of Otters]

Londoners moan, northerners take action. Basically you lot are pen pushing pussies, northerners are real men.

I think there's a lot to be said for the legacy of organised labour in Liverpool and how it shapes the culture of the supporters. I laugh at them as much as anyone but when it comes to stuff like this I take my hat off. Spurs fans would never do something like this off our own backs, there just isn't the same structure of internal unity to organise it and put it into place. Judging by this thread we can't even get on board with it when someone else has set the example for us. Every supporter recognizes that ticket prices are out of control but when the chance comes to do something about it we're more worried about missing out on value for money, or adversely impacting upon the team in the final 20 minutes of one game out of 38. Change in history, particularly when money is involved, is always hard fought and invariably involves some degree of self sacrifice. Until football fans set the tribalism aside and show they're willing to sacrifice the thing they love the money men in the game will continue to exploit that love to take us for every penny they can.

/rant

 

[riggi]

Haha stupid scoucers, what a silly id.....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35546090

 

[spursfan77]

Remember this season's season ticket renewal payment was going to be in March last year. It was ridiculous until the THST got involved and got the club to move it back until May and the season had ended.

THFC are as bad as the rest of them in regards to tickets. I hope we will do something inventive with pricing in the new stadium but I doubt they will.