Tim Sherwood rues loss of Gareth Bale

[Shea]

No doubt. He's probably responsible for Gazza getting injured in the '91 cup final and that bloke refusing to sell his business and holding up the stadium development project too.

Didn't Sherwood get us in debt before the 91 cup final and leave us having to sell Gazza and have alan sugar save our very existence?

He was also senior advisor to Sol Campbell when he moved to Arsenal but very few people know that as he (being sneaky Tim ) used Sky Andrews as a fall guy

And don't get me started on the time he cooked lasagne for the team

 

[Shea]

Boys just in a different class to the likes of soldado, lamela etc really.

No doubt

I'm only surprised he hasn't out performed Ronaldo - yet

 

[C0YS]

I have watched some of the games. Bale hasn't played at the level he played for us last season. But he still has had a successful first season. 20 goals and 16 assists is incredible. Even if that is all the player did.

The reason Bale has not replicated his Spurs form, is firstly that he is still settling in (missing preseason and large bits of the season through injury). Secondly he is not the center of the team, in fact he gets few touches during the game as the ball is almost always farmed out to Ronaldo. Still when he has been given the ball he has been brutally effective with it, if not always particularly exciting. He has also scored some pretty amazing goals. The one against Barca being the last example, but by no means the only one. He has also been played wide right, not his favored position and is not given the license to roam when Ronaldo plays. Rather he rotates his position only if Ronaldo wants to have a crack elsewhere.

Next season I expect him to improve again, be more exciting, gain more status within the team. The season after that, with Ronaldo ageing, I expect Bale to become the main man and reach very high levels.

 

[guiltyparty]

In some ways I think that's helped him. It takes some of the pressure off him.

Exactly. If Bale was still here banging them in and looking sexy, the clamour for Lamela wouldn't be so loud. Not that we'd have bought him, of course

Anyway, this did make me chuckle:

"Sherwood sent Bale a text message after Madrid's win saying 'Well done mate, keep it going', but laughed as he revealed he did not get one back."

 

[NEVILLEB]

Bale was irreplaceable. Just as Ronaldo or Messi would be.

When you think that Sherwood doesn't even step on the pitch and isn't responsible for the personal errors of the players all the hate looks extremely harsh.

He stood up for Naughton and Rose when weaker managers would have blasted them in the media.

He's given Bentaleb and Kane a chance despite the risks involved.

Maybe he's not such a bad person!

He didn't advocate selling Bale, Modric and VDV

 

[batigol]

Bale was irreplaceable. Just as Ronaldo or Messi would be.

When you think that Sherwood doesn't even step on the pitch and isn't responsible for the personal errors of the players all the hate looks extremely harsh.

He stood up for Naughton and Rose when weaker managers would have blasted them in the media.

He's given Bentaleb and Kane a chance despite the risks involved.

Maybe he's not such a bad person!

He didn't advocate selling Bale, Modric and VDV

I bet you won't hold him responsible for financially crippling Spurs too if that happens. Different job so he obviously has different responsibilities/ priorities. I doubt anyone can find a past manager/ coach who advocated selling Bale, Modric and VDV.

He should not be getting all the hate but you can understand why he gets more than his fair share when he speaks up about everything. As someone has said, if he has not learn that some things are best left unsaid in public then he should also expect plenty to come his way when he opens his mouth. He may not deserve the hate but we cannot expect there to be none when he keeps placing himself in the line of fire.

All said, I will just be glad to be in pre-season with a new manager/ head coach in place and basically a reset button to a wasted season. At this point, I just want to move on like some others since there is nothing left but bitterness and regrets in this season, and I will like to spend more time looking forward than be dwelling in this mess.

 

[Metalhead]

A 'blake

Didn't Sherwood get us in debt before the 91 cup final and leave us having to sell Gazza and have alan sugar save our very existence?

He was also senior advisor to Sol Campbell when he moved to Arsenal but very few people know that as he (being sneaky Tim ) used Sky Andrews as a fall guy

And don't get me started on the time he cooked lasagne for the team

Ha ha. Well I heard some whisper that he started the whole crisis in Ukraine when he told Putin and the Ukraine interim president that they had both made comments about their prowess between the sheets. What a stirrer!

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Bale was irreplaceable. Just as Ronaldo or Messi would be.

When you think that Sherwood doesn't even step on the pitch and isn't responsible for the personal errors of the players all the hate looks extremely harsh.

He stood up for Naughton and Rose when weaker managers would have blasted them in the media.

He's given Bentaleb and Kane a chance despite the risks involved.

Maybe he's not such a bad person!

He didn't advocate selling Bale, Modric and VDV

You don't need to be a footballing genius to see that Bentaleb and Kane are conference players in comparison with Bale and Modric and that is Sherwood's issue. he's had to replace world class players, but done so with such inferior players that we've ended the year as a laughing stock.

 

[riggi]

Who gives a shit.

 

[spurious1]

Have to disagree sir, sorry! What with moving his family over I'm surprised it hasn't effected him more!
Top boy though, nothing but admiration for the guy

Bale has adapted to a change of league (how many British players ever managed that?), change of country and language, but most of all, he has dealt with an absolutely enormous amount of pressure due to his price, and just the fact of playing for Real Madrid where expectations are in general astronomical, especially of their flair galacticos, and every detail of everything they do is scrutinized. It is vastly impressive from Bale, it shows real character on his part (we knew he had the skill...)

 

[hodsgod]

No, you bat questions like that away, you NEVER, EVER answer them.

You don't even need media training to know how to know how to do it, he's bound to have seen at least one politician have a TV interview in his 40 something years, just either just ignore it, answer your own question or end the presser because the jour no is an idiot.

Do me a favour, he isn't a politician, and managers generally answer the questions asked.

 

[jezz]

I have watched some of the games. Bale hasn't played at the level he played for us last season. But he still has had a successful first season. 20 goals and 16 assists is incredible. Even if that is all the player did.

The reason Bale has not replicated his Spurs form, is firstly that he is still settling in (missing preseason and large bits of the season through injury). Secondly he is not the center of the team, in fact he gets few touches during the game as the ball is almost always farmed out to Ronaldo. Still when he has been given the ball he has been brutally effective with it, if not always particularly exciting. He has also scored some pretty amazing goals. The one against Barca being the last example, but by no means the only one. He has also been played wide right, not his favored position and is not given the license to roam when Ronaldo plays. Rather he rotates his position only if Ronaldo wants to have a crack elsewhere.

Next season I expect him to improve again, be more exciting, gain more status within the team. The season after that, with Ronaldo ageing, I expect Bale to become the main man and reach very high levels.

Sounds very similar to lamelas situation.

 

[hodsgod]

I must admit that people constantly starting threads just as an excuse to have a pop at him is getting pretty boring. He'll be gone in a few weeks and the hatred can pass to someone else.

Exactly.

 

[spurious1]

You don't need to be a footballing genius to see that Bentaleb and Kane are conference players in comparison with Bale and Modric and that is Sherwood's issue. he's had to replace world class players, but done so with such inferior players that we've ended the year as a laughing stock.

Well, that might be...but I don't think that anyone is seriously saying that Bentaleb and Kane are expected to be the replacements for Modric and Bale, that's a bit of a big ask for the poor kids.

Or maybe we'll see Real in a double swoop this summer for Bentaleb and Kane for 140M! C'mon DL, you know you can pull it off.

 

[jezz]

Do me a favour, he isn't a politician, and managers generally answer the questions asked.

Yep like he's not a spurs player, no point in speculating about what might have been.
I would like to concentrate on the players who actually play for spurs, next question please.
But no im going to have a dig at the club before I leave.

 

[Vwbottom]

Sherwood also probably caused the banking collapse and world wide recession.

What else can we blame him for?

Everything life related tbh.

 

[guiltyparty]

Well, that might be...but I don't think that anyone is seriously saying that Bentaleb and Kane are expected to be the replacements for Modric and Bale, that's a bit of a big ask for the poor kids.

Isn't the point Sherwood's been picking said kids over the replacements bought?

To write off those buys so early, but claim that youngsters need time, is contradictory

 

[slartibartfast]

Watch the games.

Bale hasn't been anywhere near his best for Madrid. I didn't say he was bad or anything. He scores goals because Madrid score for fun and against teams worth hundreds of millions less than them. Anyone can score in that team. He hasn't turned up against the big teams and was the worst player on the pitch for Madrid in both league Clasicos. Why in the world would it matter if he scored in his first game or not?

Once again. I'm not saying he has been a total flop or anything, but ask any Madrid fan and they'll tell you he hasn't been great and definitely not close to deserving of his price tag. He still did score 20 in 38, which you have to respect, but he hasn't been good. I like him, so I do hope the goal yesterday gives him some confidence (albeit it could have been easily prevented by Bartra).

Funny how I made a similar post in a thread a month ago and got all agrees, now he scores one nice goal and I'm getting disagrees/WTFs.

I have watched quite a few games thanks.
He was never going to show he was worth 80m in his first season because nobody is.
You cannot score 20 goals in 38 games, get 16 assists, all in your first season and say he hasnt been any good. Its just nonsense.
I would love to have a player who could manage that at Spurs.
You forget he hardly set the world alight under AVB for large portions of games, sometimes you didnt even know he was playing, but then he'd blast one in from 30yds or run length of pitch and bang one in and suddenly he's MoM.
Thats what you pay for and thats what he's done.
Some of his goals have been awesome for Madrid.
And to suggest any bugger can score 20 from 38 with 16 assists for RM in that league begs the question, why pay 80m for a player. Thats just nonsense imo but we'll just have to agree to disagree
Also I think he could have scored a lot more had he not kept squaring to Ronaldo for a tap in. Those type of chances would have no one there to tap them home in most teams (like us) and he'd just have taken the shot on. How would 36 in 38 have looked? Poor season?

 

[absolute bobbins]

Do me a favour, he isn't a politician, and managers generally answer the questions asked.

Only the stupid ones do, the press core wouldn't even dare ask Jose, Sir Alex or LVG a question like that in the first place, even Harry would have easily batted it away with a "he's a triffic lad".

They ask Tim questions like that because our press officer is incompetent and because they know they'll get copy from Tim that shows the club in a negative light.

He's there to talk about Spurs, player updates and thoughts ahead of the next match. It is not his job to talk about former players, he'll have plenty of time for that when he's our former manager

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

Bale has stepped it up playing for Madrid, pleased for him gave his best while here!