Toby's wage demands

[cider spurs]

Hopefully not. We shouldn't base our spending on CL revenue.

Oh, I totally agree, but maybe the added windfall will allow for a few goodies.


#notbilloddie

 

[Lilbaz]

Has anyone considered we might be playing the waiting game ourselves, waiting to see if we do indeed qualify for the champions league proper, and the added finances that could provide.

Might be in a posotion to push the structure of wages even furthet once CL secured.

It would be madness to base our wage structure on qualifying for the cl.
If we don't qualify the following year we'd have to sell players to bring the wages down.
See any team that gets relegated to understand how damaging that could be.

 

[cider spurs]

It would be madness to base our wage structure on qualifying for the cl.
If we don't qualify the following year we'd have to sell players to bring the wages down.
See any team that gets relegated to understand how damaging that could be.

Not on about the whole wage structure, merely trying to suggest that a few extra quid in the coffers from qualification could give us a little more revenue to offer Toby or whomever.

It's a revenue stream is it not, sure it would be factored in the end of year financials. Money in, money out.

 

[Lilbaz]

Not on about the whole wage structure, merely trying to suggest that a few extra quid in the coffers from qualification could give us a little more revenue to offer Toby or whomever.

It's a revenue stream is it not, sure it would be factored in the end of year financials. Money in, money out.

Giving toby an extra few quid raises the wage bill. We will budget the wage bill based on not qualifying for cl as it is a very real possibility.
We use cl qualification to give the players bonuses (for qualifying).
If you are saying give him a lump sum, then we already do with the bonus.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Levy and THFC base the total wage bill primarily on a percentage of turnover. 55% of turnover is considered to be acceptably prudent. Very few football clubs comply with it. We do.

The problem with considering Champions League revenue when assessing individual player salaries is that CL is a year-to-year thing, whereas a player contract represents a 4-6 year commitment. So they wouldn't do that.

Also, the standard is not related to individual contracts, it is related to the overall salary bill for the organisation. I doubt that an individual wage negotiation would be directly affected by an individual season's qualification (or not) for the CL.

 

[cider spurs]

Levy and THFC base the total wage bill primarily on a percentage of turnover. 55% of turnover is considered to be acceptably prudent. Very few football clubs comply with it. We do.

The problem with considering Champions League revenue when assessing individual player salaries is that CL is a year-to-year thing, whereas a player contract represents a 4-6 year commitment. So they wouldn't do that.

Also, the standard is not related to individual contracts, it is related to the overall salary bill for the organisation. I doubt that an individual wage negotiation would be directly affected by an individual season's qualification (or not) for the CL.

Get your point. What I would like to state however. I know Champions league is a year to year thing, and player contracts for argument sake say 4 years.

So lets suppose we have indeed offered Toby 110k per week, but he wants circa 150k per week.

That leaves us short about 2 million a year short bar 80k, times this by 4, the length of Tobys hypothetical new contract. We'd be short 8 million, 320k

This season the group stages are awarded a guaranteed minimum of €12.7 million, plus bonuses for wins and draws.

So whilst purely hypothetical, at no point have I suggested we gamble on future CL qualifying to pay Toby, just the fact that the money would be there if we qualified this time.

But all pointless anyway, because as others have stated, money already allocated by way of bonuses if we qualified.