Tottenham and the transfer market

[Donki]

Its all about wages IMO, its easy to say go splash £35 million on a player, which you will have to spend these days for a player like Aguero, Rossi and Llorente, thats the easy part. These types of players would be demanding say at LEAST £150,000 a week, you work that out over a 5 year contract and that makes it a total wage bill of £31.2 million. Then you have other top players at your club wanting a new contract to be on equal earning, its not long before the walls come crumbling down and I am not being dramatic.

Levy keeps the finances in check because he has too, he is a bussiness man everyone is saying look at Leeds why go so far back? Look at Man U, look at Liverpool look at West Ham all having to get new owners. We have spent money in the past but due to the likes of Chelsea and Man City in the last decade wages have spirilled to the point of stupidity, players come to England EXPECTING big salary and due to what players are already getting paid here.

Alot of football players are moving now for money more than anything look at Nasri, wanted by United probably the best club team in the world over the last 10 years, he picked City. if we want to get more spending power we need to get into the CL on a regular basis AND get our new stadium. Its as simple as that football is changing and we need to get used to it, hopefully the new rules regarding spending will help the situation but I doubt it.

So yes I am happy with our transfer policy, we need to get the stadium and get back into the CL on a regular basis.

 

[hellava_tough]

Good thread


As others have said it can be frustrating at times (summer transfer window before CL) but there are constraints on our spending so you'd have to say that overall we've done a pretty good job


Perhaps one area that could be improved upon is our academy, which hasn't really produced anyone since King, although this season Livermore has come through (although will he be top-class?)

Our scouting network has done better, however, when looking for young players (BAE, Hudd, Walker, Rose, Sandro, Lennon, Kaboul, Bale, Dawson)

If we want to maintain our success these are the two areas where we should be investing in

 

[chinaman]

Here's an idea. With our resources, we can't compete with the big boys in terms of transfer fees and wages. How about financing Hoddles's football academy so that we can have first call to any potential star he discovers.

 

[Dubwise]

I think the thing that really frustrates me is that a world class player is not viable mainly based on wages even if they did want to join the club

But we should be looking at taking a punt on a few lesser known players, i think this is partly a limitation on Harry wanting proven PL players.

The last player we took a real punt on was Modric, everyone said he was to slight and small for the division, well now look how much of an asset he is.

Before that we took a punt on Berbatov, similar result.

If anything it seems to be the players from the premier league that have let us down, Bentley and Bent being the two that stick out. GDS has obviously flopped but was worth a gamble and knowing levy he will still turn a profit

I would love to see us splash the cash on Olivier Giroud, he may not demand massive wages, will cost a bit but i have seen enough of him this year to know he is quality

Or that guy who has been scoring for fun for Freiburg, Papiss Cisse, the guy is clinical

Whether it be Giroud or Remy or Cisse or someone else i hope we take a gamble thsi window, we can afford to as we don't urgently need anyone, if they flop well thats a shame but it won't destroy our season, if they prosper then we have a player who is ready and settled for next year

Newcastle have made two of the most impressive signings in the last two seasons, Tiote and Cabaye, both would be useful at spurs and would strengthen our squad, when they were in France they would have bitten our hand off if we had offered them a contract, lets look at this calibre of player

As much as i like Parker i want some players for future development, not immediate soloutions, Redknapp has fixed our problems but can he set us up for a few seasons of quality, i have not seen evidence of it yet

 

[dontcallme]

I think the thing that really frustrates me is that a world class player is not viable mainly based on wages even if they did want to join the club

But we should be looking at taking a punt on a few lesser known players, i think this is partly a limitation on Harry wanting proven PL players.

The last player we took a real punt on was Modric, everyone said he was to slight and small for the division, well now look how much of an asset he is.

Before that we took a punt on Berbatov, similar result.

If anything it seems to be the players from the premier league that have let us down, Bentley and Bent being the two that stick out. GDS has obviously flopped but was worth a gamble and knowing levy he will still turn a profit

I would love to see us splash the cash on Olivier Giroud, he may not demand massive wages, will cost a bit but i have seen enough of him this year to know he is quality

Or that guy who has been scoring for fun for Freiburg, Papiss Cisse, the guy is clinical

Whether it be Giroud or Remy or Cisse or someone else i hope we take a gamble thsi window, we can afford to as we don't urgently need anyone, if they flop well thats a shame but it won't destroy our season, if they prosper then we have a player who is ready and settled for next year

Newcastle have made two of the most impressive signings in the last two seasons, Tiote and Cabaye, both would be useful at spurs and would strengthen our squad, when they were in France they would have bitten our hand off if we had offered them a contract, lets look at this calibre of player

As much as i like Parker i want some players for future development, not immediate soloutions, Redknapp has fixed our problems but can he set us up for a few seasons of quality, i have not seen evidence of it yet

I agree that buying a highly sought after world class player in his prime is usually out of our reach due to wages. VDV seems to be the exception though he didn't appear to be highly sought after.

Since HR has taken over we have bought Sandro, Walker and other young players such as Naughton and Falque. The squad HR inherited was full of talented foreigners finding their feet in the Prem and young players needing experience. HR hasn't filled every gap in our squad with experienced, obvious Prem players as he has given the likes of BAE and Bale a chance to shine and since HR has taken over they have become two of our most ever present players.

Yes Bentley and Bent weren't right for us but the real difference is the players HR has been buying have been right for us.

HR has publicly announced his interest in Remy so I don't think he is so narrow as to only look at the Prem. He realises our squad isn't easily improved upon and we might need to look further afield.

The Berbatov deal took a long time to finalise though. We were in contact with him and his club for a long time before he signed.

The immediate solution HR has bought us have put us in the title race. The backup for these players are a mix of experienced Prem players and talented youngsters giving us one of the strongest squad in the league.

 

[Dubwise]

I agree that buying a highly sought after world class player in his prime is usually out of our reach due to wages. VDV seems to be the exception though he didn't appear to be highly sought after.

Since HR has taken over we have bought Sandro, Walker and other young players such as Naughton and Falque. The squad HR inherited was full of talented foreigners finding their feet in the Prem and young players needing experience. HR hasn't filled every gap in our squad with experienced, obvious Prem players as he has given the likes of BAE and Bale a chance to shine and since HR has taken over they have become two of our most ever present players.

Yes Bentley and Bent weren't right for us but the real difference is the players HR has been buying have been right for us.

HR has publicly announced his interest in Remy so I don't think he is so narrow as to only look at the Prem. He realises our squad isn't easily improved upon and we might need to look further afield.

The Berbatov deal took a long time to finalise though. We were in contact with him and his club for a long time before he signed.

The immediate solution HR has bought us have put us in the title race. The backup for these players are a mix of experienced Prem players and talented youngsters giving us one of the strongest squad in the league.

I had a feeling Walker was purchased before Harry arrived and i don't think Harry would have had much to do with the Sandro deal.
I am a huge fan of Harry and the way he has stabalised our squad has been magnificent, now that its stable though i want to see a bit of risk.
I always thought of Harry as the kind of guy to take those risks with his dealings at previous clubs, i guess we have no idea as to how the scouting process takes place though

One thing i have concluded though is, being a football scout would be the greatest job in the world

 

[dontcallme]

I had a feeling Walker was purchased before Harry arrived and i don't think Harry would have had much to do with the Sandro deal.
I am a huge fan of Harry and the way he has stabalised our squad has been magnificent, now that its stable though i want to see a bit of risk.
I always thought of Harry as the kind of guy to take those risks with his dealings at previous clubs, i guess we have no idea as to how the scouting process takes place though

One thing i have concluded though is, being a football scout would be the greatest job in the world

I think HR has found the right chairman for him in Levy. Levy has put together an international scouting system and arranges the negotiations so he gets to buy players for us like Sandro and VDV, Almost certainly with HR's approval, and then leaves HR to play to his strengths.

Levy will never give a manager too much leeway with regards to finances so HR can't build too high a wage bill with players coming to the end of their careers. HR gets to manage the biggest club that will hire him and Levy gets a steady hand in charge. It's a perfect match.

FYI - Kyle Walker was bought in the summer of 2009 and HR took over after 8 Prem games of the 2008/2009 season.

 

[Samson]

It may well be true that there is more value in the Parker/Friedel/Pienaar end of the market, coupled with distressed assets like Adebayor and Van Der Vaart, supplemented with our own youth, than in the 21-23 year old bracket that Lyon-style Moneyball suggested you should buy (and we did).

Not paying fees would allow us to raise the wage bill, too.