Tottenham Hotspur Vs Liverpool Match Thread

[BringBack_leGin]

How exactly did we start poorly (very poorly)? We were apprehensive, but thats a given against one of the leagues top sides. A very poor start is going 2-0 nil down in 10 minutes. The fact that they didnt score, and that they couldn't hold possession suggests we started very well.
I haven't had the benefit of any highlights yet, but from where I was sat I just thought we looked extremely nervy and a quite sloppy, aside from the defence who I gave a lot of credit to for the lack of penetration from Liverpool.
We'd have conceded either way. But Gomes made a mistake. Johnson would have certainly created a chance out of that.
I praise Gomes to the rafters normally, but in my opinion it was a mistake by him. Johnson was moving away from the goal, and once Gomes had charged out he could have stayed on his feet at that point and tried to bully Johnson away. Like with the first point, perhaps seeing highlights later will change my mind, but I think Gomes would have been better off allowing the chance to be created and trying to save it.
Wrong.
Nice detailed explanation. I suppose the plethora of crosses that came from his side would back up your point. Oh wait, there weren't any. Ah well.
Off day, both halfs were poor. Insua did incredibly well to keep him out of the game. In the second half Lennon ran pentratively 4 or 5 times and even without an end product, havoc was created each an every time

That is the last I'll say to you on these issues because our views on the issue are quite polarized and I want to see the match from a TV view before consolidating my views.

 

[tRiKS]

We played on of the best teams in europe and over all we deserved the win. Centally (king, Bassong, wilson and Hud) were were brilliant. the rest of the positions aroudn them all had good and bad moments.

We gave them too much possesion. Bassong, gomes, and BAE especailly went long too quickly in the second half. It's to be expected but it's something we need to learn. Getting the ball away long, doesn't equal pressure relief. Taking a few passes to give your team time to push up together and in formation is what does.

Liverpool were out played today but i think if we're very honest we'll agree they could still have been better and agasint utd and arsenal and chavs that amont of ball will be turned to better use than today.

I'm being perhaps a little over critical on what is a great day. a great win but I still think it's something we need to work on.

 

[Max_Junglie]

Very satisfactory result. However, I presume that if Harry's planning on trying to shut many games out like that this season then our number 1 remaining transfer target must be Steven Segal. Seat-of-the-pants stuff.

I was quite surprised at how dirty Liverpool were today. Good job Gerrard gets to referee most of their games otherwise they'd finish every match with about 7 players because of their persistent, and cynical, fouling. I wish JD had bitten Mascherano again.

Anyway, yeah, most players could've done something better, but so what, we won, job done. And we actually got to see Benny smile.

 

[kcmei]

we made a strong liverpool side look like a side who has just been promoted to the epl

 

[jrio]

I'm a very happy young man now!

We started poorly, very poorly, and it was down to our defence that Liverpool didn't make their early dominance count. Then, Skrtel and Carragher clashed heads, a few minutes were wasted and Liverpool lost their momentum while we calmed down, regrouped, and began to asssert ourselves. By the time we scored we had been the better team, carving out the only real chances. Liverpools penalty, though a definite spot kick, came against the run of play, and we hit back straight away when in the past we might have reverted to type and folded.

I expect you think I'm targeting you but... eh?

Early Liverpool dominance? There was nothing in it, everything was in the centre, supposedly because Rafa's plan was to constrict play to thwart Hudd's passing range. The collision did give us the initiative. Normally, Pool would have been able to sub Skkrtel.

All goals were scored as a result of set-pieces, showing how tight the margins are, even with Pool being as poor as they were.

 

[Kendall]

I thought Corluka murdered them, he mugged Gerrard and Babel off all game.

 

[tRiKS]

That is the last I'll say to you on these issues because let's face it, you always disagree with me so I'd be wasting both our times. Cheers :beer:

I think it's fair to say Gomes shouldn't have been put in that position. Hud and BAE made the mistakes initially of letting GJ get a run and then both leaving it for the other to deal with. BUT keepers seem to get a red mist and staying in goal would have made GJ do something with the ball.

I don't understand GK's motivations in moments like that because half the time when keeprs get a touch of the ball they still get a pen agsint them. Winning the ball doesn't guarantee the right decision (Saville 1/4 final) so percentage wise surely making GJ have to cross or shoot the ball is the correct thing to do.

I'm not getting at gomes i think most keeprs would do what he did i just think technically most gk's shouldn't

 

[Chris12345]

Went down my local for a few celebratory drinks, i walk in and there's loads of liverpool fans in there :rofl:. Did i enjoy taking the piss out of them:rofl:.

Funny how they always think they should of won :roll: and we robbed them :rofl:.

But fair play to them they did buy me a drink :beer:.

COYS

Yeah, was watching in a tiny pub in rural Wales, with about 5 yids and 5 scouse, the Liverpool fans shock my hand and said we deserved it and that we'll do well this year! Fair play!

Buzzing right now!

Spurs beat Liverpool, Cambridge come from 2 goals down to win 4-2 away! Usain Bolt destroys the 100m... British gold in the heptathlon! (not that I know much about it!)... couldn't of asked for more! :dance:

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I expect you think I'm targeting you but... eh?

Early Liverpool dominance? There was nothing in it, everything was in the centre, supposedly because Rafa's plan was to constrict play to thwart Hudd's passing range. The collision did give us the initiative. Normally, Pool would have been able to sub Skkrtel.

All goals were scored as a result of set-pieces, showing how tight the margins are, even with Pool being as poor as they were.

I just felt in the first quarter of the match that Liverpool were getting through our midfield very easily and that we looked quite panicky in midfield and couldn't get the ball near any of our 4 attacking players. I agree with everything you say after the bolded bit though.

Like I said to Bob, I may well change my mind upon viewing the extended highlights on SSN later (not to mention MoTD2), but after the first 20 minutes I felt quite underwhelmed, but within moments of the restard after the Carragher/ Skrtel collision I felt very positive and was very happy with our performance all over.

 

[Spurger King]

Funny how they always think they should of won :roll: and we robbed them :rofl:.

Oh the irony. Scousers accusing us of robbing them!

 

[kcmei]

on motd hansen dont look happy

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I think it's fair to say Gomes shouldn't have been put in that position. Hud and BAE made the mistakes initially of letting GJ get a run and then both leaving it for the other to deal with. BUT keepers seem to get a red mist and staying in goal would have made GJ do something with the ball.

I don't understand GK's motivations in moments like that because half the time when keeprs get a touch of the ball they still get a pen agsint them. Winning the ball doesn't guarantee the right decision (Saville 1/4 final) so percentage wise surely making GJ have to cross or shoot the ball is the correct thing to do.

I'm not getting at gomes i think most keeprs would do what he did i just think technically most gk's shouldn't

Oh yeah I was definitely wondering where the hell BAE was at the time, and I love Gomes, but he could've handled the situation better in my view. Had Johnson been closer to our goal, Gomes might have seen red.

 

[lishiyo]

thought we were both nervy at the start, rather scrappy affair; we started getting on top after their collision, yay for Pool having so little depth :grin: (not that we weren't struggling with injuries at the back ourselves, but Bassong has made up for it)

tbf if Keane had put away some of those chances, the margin wouldn't be so close. I can remember Pool fluking many games early on last season, usually with some undeserved goal in the last 10 min; obviously they should've obliterated us last season at the Lane, but Carragher loves us :grin:

Are we finally going to start taking advantage of our set pieces? Eek Now on to our away form....

 

[Legend10]

Dominance that led to one 30 yard shot easily covered by Gomes in an entire half.

They barely got within 30 yards of our goal in the entire first half.

Although we never threatend Liverpool's goal in the first 20 minuts or so we were always comfortable. The second half of the first half we played very well and on another day would have come in 2 or 3 up.

Liverpool weren't at their best but this was still a very good and disciplined performance. However it will be wasted if we don't build on it with a performance and at least a point from Hull.

 

[hybridsoldier]

I thought Corluka murdered them, he mugged Gerrard and Babel off all game.

tried to give you rep but wont let me lol

I just said the same thing in another thread, Charlie was fantastic today, quick and aggressive....no probs with him at CB for Hull game

 

[lishiyo]

Dominance that led to one 30 yard shot easily covered by Gomes in an entire half.

They barely got within 30 yards of our goal in the entire first half.

Although we never threatend Liverpool's goal in the first 20 minuts or so we were always comfortable. The second half of the first half we played very well and on another day would have come in 2 or 3 up.

Liverpool weren't at their best but this was still a very good and disciplined performance. However it will be wasted if we don't build on it with a performance and at least a point from Hull.

Given how utterly dire they were second half of last season, I will be disappointed if we don't come away with all three, though our weakness does seem to be away games against bottom half teams...

 

[haxman]

The difference a year makes - same result but a much different and improved performance on the same fixture last season.

We didn't deserve the win last year after being played off the park but I thought we thoroughly deserved the 3 points today.

Great to start the season on a high!

 

[llamafarmer]

The Lane looked and sounded unbelievable today!

I enjoyed those highlights, shame Hansen finds it so difficult to give us credit rather than whinge about Liverpool being rubbish!

 

[Kendall]

The Lane looked and sounded unbelievable today!

I enjoyed those highlights, shame Hansen finds it so difficult to give us credit rather than whinge about Liverpool being rubbish!

Not really. He said we look excellent and that if Liverpool had got a draw out of the game it would've been a travesty of justice since we were so utterly dominant.

Sometimes I think people hear what they want to hear from pundits.

 

[Legend10]

Given how utterly dire they were second half of last season, I will be disappointed if we don't come away with all three, though our weakness does seem to be away games against bottom half teams...

I will be disappointed as well but I do think it will be a tough game.

Hull gave a pretty good account of themselves at the Chavs yesterday and unlike last year I think they know thier survival hopes will depend on their home form.

First home game, crackling atmosphere. Definitely a game in recent seasons that we would lose after a decent home result. We want a win but a draw won't be a disaster.

If we can win then we can realistically be sitting on 10 points after 4 games, now that would set us up very nicely!