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Tottenham Takeover Talk

Would you welcome a 25% ownership stake for Qatar Sports Investments (QSI)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 655 65.2%
  • No

    Votes: 350 34.8%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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The more I have thought about it, I don’t necessarily care about new owners throwing millions at new players. I just want an actual 5 year plan, a strategy, actual scouting of exciting young talent and a brand of football we can be proud of. As with all companies, it’s the boss at the top who sets that agenda.
Wouldn't an actual 5 year plan involve something like bringing in a managing director of football, employing a serious coach, signing good young players and players to fit the positions that need addressing on a continuing basis and not buying players in a position in a knee jerk reaction, because, as the name 5 year plan implies it will take up to 5 years and can't be done in 2 years.
I'm as frustrated as the next fan but isn't that what we're doing?
Hopefully prospective investors will see it from that angle too.
 

tottenmal

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Aug 22, 2013
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I don’t think anything will happen with this. Just my opinion
Yeah agreed. There has been enough buyout talk / imminent stadium naming rights rumours over the years that I won’t believe it until there is official word.
What Jo/Lewis want for spurs just doesn’t seem to align with what most seem to value the club at.
But if somebody was to invest at the £ value suggested, it’d be Qatar.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Aug 31, 2012
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With recent information lockdowns around the club I don't think we can read anything into radio silence.

I'd be more worried if there were serious rumours coming out about talks breaking down.
It’s crazy how little info comes out these days. With the exception of a few little tit bits there’s next to no ITK these days.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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This has gone worryingly quiet

Quiet is good I reckon at this stage. That Jacobs chap obviously gets his info from the Qatar side. If it was all over he would surely be desperate to tell anyone. But I suspect if we get no more news by the end of next month then I’d suggest it’s over and they weren’t that keen in the first place.
 

GutBucket

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May 26, 2013
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I don’t think anything will happen with this. Just my opinion
It could be that club was silent because of the whole Paratici thing. But Ben Jacobs suddenly being one of our go-to guys for team news is a strong hint that there is something in the works. Maybe just preliminary talks, maybe even less than that, but there was something at some point. Maybe it never reaches a serious discussion and maybe ENIC told them to fuck off, but something is/was cooking there (and not just books in Torino).
 

ajspurs

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Jul 7, 2007
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I don't know why people expect this to happen as swiftly as a player transfer (well a player transfer for most clubs :cautious:). Like someone else said in the thread, the hope is more so that it's been in the pipeline for longer than we've been aware but that doesn't mean anything is imminent for such a deal. No news is good news IMO, I think we'll know from the noises from our own ITK and some corners of the media if talks have broken down.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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Quiet is good I reckon at this stage. That Jacobs chap obviously gets his info from the Qatar side. If it was all over he would surely be desperate to tell anyone. But I suspect if we get no more news by the end of next month then I’d suggest it’s over and they weren’t that keen in the first place.
Exactly
This isn’t like a player transfer where there’ll be countless 3rd parties involved throughout the process, drip feeding journos and ITKs.

There’s probably no more than a handful of people who know anything about this.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Exactly
This isn’t like a player transfer where there’ll be countless 3rd parties involved throughout the process, drip feeding journos and ITKs.

There’s probably no more than a handful of people who know anything about this...we’ll only hear more if/when the people directly involved choose to let more info out.

If I was buying into thfc I would be checking everything and anything. It wouldn’t be a quick process at all. Think about the contract you’d need with levy and Lewis. You wouldn’t hold anything to chance with getting into bed with those two.

A good example is West Ham and the Czech guy buying in as the dildo bros are cut from the same cloth. I wonder how long that took.
 

Guernman

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Aug 24, 2013
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Jose’s Cup record with Spurs:

FA Cup 19/20: 2 replays, eliminated
19/20 CL: eliminated first knockout stage

20/21 Europa: eliminated round of 16
FA cup: eliminated 5th round
League cup:
Forfeit over Leyton Orient
Pens over Chelsea
Beat Stoke
Beat Brentford

Jose sacked, lost to Man City in final.

Jose did not have a stellar record in the cups while at Spurs. His sacking is not why we lost to City.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, we lose that game against City maybe eight times out of ten. But honestly, do you think we had a better chance of winning with Mason in charge rather than a manager who has won so many cup finals? In one off matches Mourinho has often defied the odds. With that comes a belief and an aura that could make the difference.

I am not saying we would have won, I am saying we would have had a much better chance at an upset. And the decision to fire him a few days before that is hard to explain. Surely it can only have been based upon financial considerations around bonsues or the optics of firing a manager immediately after he won something. Whatever the thinking, what was seemingly prioritised was either money or how it made Levy look, instead of maximising the opportunity, however slim, for Spurs to win a trophy for the first time in years.

Levy can only have been thinking, shit, what if he actually wins, that wouldn't be ideal for my agenda right now. At least I can't think of any other narrative that fit what happens, and I find it unacceptable. It's not like we had Mourinho's replacement waiting in the wings.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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ENIC's defenders will say that they have elevated the club out of mid-table mediocrity and improved all of the infrastructure.

But, remember they have done all of that to their benefit too. When they sell up, they will be the big winners as they'll walk away with a huge profit.

I'd even go as far to say that they have also made the club a hugely profitable venture for the next buyers too.

So we still get the short straw.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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ENIC's defenders will say that they have elevated the club out of mid-table mediocrity and improved all of the infrastructure.

But, remember they have done all of that to their benefit too. When they sell up, they will be the big winners as they'll walk away with a huge profit.

I'd even go as far to say that they have also made the club a hugely profitable venture for the next buyers too.

So we still get the short straw.
This is what makes me laugh. The way some are still defending them anyone would think Enic are philanthropists.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Funny to think people have been claiming ENIC are looking to sell the club and are just getting it ready to sell for the last fifteen years.
 

Nebby

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Dec 27, 2013
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ENIC's defenders will say that they have elevated the club out of mid-table mediocrity and improved all of the infrastructure.

But, remember they have done all of that to their benefit too. When they sell up, they will be the big winners as they'll walk away with a huge profit.

I'd even go as far to say that they have also made the club a hugely profitable venture for the next buyers too.

So we still get the short straw.
Paragraph 1: They have.
2: Having taken all the risk, that only seems fair.
3: That’s a good thing.
4: That will depend on the new owners.
 

SpursSince1980

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Jan 23, 2011
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I’m gonna be positive and assume quiet is good. A deal of this magnitude takes time. Even a major investment. May mean we also don’t want other teams thinking we have a massive war chest.

Glass half full version.

Glass half empty version

It‘s dead as a doornail
 

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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ENIC's defenders will say that they have elevated the club out of mid-table mediocrity and improved all of the infrastructure.

But, remember they have done all of that to their benefit too. When they sell up, they will be the big winners as they'll walk away with a huge profit.

I'd even go as far to say that they have also made the club a hugely profitable venture for the next buyers too.

So we still get the short straw.
You don't invest in something and not want a profit for yourself. Considering the time they have spent on the club, building said infrastructure, I think it's fair they get a profit on it. Don't you? If they have set it up for the next owners then they did a pretty good job.

Not a fan of ENIC or Levy, but they have done a lot of good for the club whether people want to admit it or not. Of course some things could have been done better, but on the whole they're not the worst football club owners in the world. Just look at what is happening at Crawley Town for example. Wagmi came in before the season and have gone through managers and the playing squad like they're nothing. Trust me, we all want to go to the next level and be serial winners, but it could be a lot worse.
 

Mark_147

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Aug 24, 2011
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You don't invest in something and not want a profit for yourself. Considering the time they have spent on the club, building said infrastructure, I think it's fair they get a profit on it. Don't you? If they have set it up for the next owners then they did a pretty good job.

Not a fan of ENIC or Levy, but they have done a lot of good for the club whether people want to admit it or not. Of course some things could have been done better, but on the whole they're not the worst football club owners in the world. Just look at what is happening at Crawley Town for example. Wagmi came in before the season and have gone through managers and the playing squad like they're nothing. Trust me, we all want to go to the next level and be serial winners, but it could be a lot worse.
They bought the club for 22m and its probably now valued at 4 billion. How will they not make a profit.
 

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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They bought the club for 22m and its probably now valued at 4 billion. How will they not make a profit.
I didn't say they wouldn't. They have the right to whatever profit they make and I won't be mad about whatever they take, because they have increased the club's value like you said.
 

alexis

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Sep 1, 2012
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Alright guys, I wasn't sure where to post this but someone I follow on twitter has made the jump on to YouTube and posted his first proper piece on there which is based on Tottenham and Levy. He is a Palace fan so has no bias and is usually pretty good with this stuff. I have not yet watched this myself, he just asked me to post it forward. Hopefully you guys enjoy it and find it a good piece. Please share it forward if you like and help him on his journey.



If it shouldn't be here or goes against anything please let me know and I'll be happy to move/delete it. Thanks guys.

He looks like he wants to bite your ears off
 
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