Tottenham Takeover Talk

[For the love of Spurs]

I think Mr Tophotspur has been saying its dead a few times in the thread.

does he have inside info

 

[Dunc2610]

does he have inside info

Think its just what he's surmising from the info about various people talking to Man Utd and L'pool, nothing more. Normal jump before pushed Spurs Community behavior

 

[wadewill]

There is no way City are a bigger club than us. Historically or now. Everything about them is fake and inflated and hopefully that will soon be at an end

 

[glacierSpurs]

Even United seems to conclude the takeover faster than us. Well, no surprise I guess. If we judge how we deal inside a transfer window period, we will probably only get any takeover discussion done 6 years later.

 

[LukaKranjcar]

Fucking hell, as if United need any sort of financial assistance, they've been spending like the big boys for years.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Unless the exciting things is him leaving

Or buying the 1st round at Beaver town

 

[spursfan77]

Even United seems to conclude the takeover faster than us. Well, no surprise I guess. If we judge how we deal inside a transfer window period, we will probably only get any takeover discussion done 6 years later.

They have put a public deadline on bids of mid february. The fact they instructed the Raine Group to actually sell the club rather than our half hearted attempts show they want to get rid of it, I doubt ENIC actually do. Although what they are actually selling isn't really clear.



The first stage of the process, which is soon to conclude, invited expressions of interest.

Those who signed confidentiality agreements were then given access to what is called the ‘data room’ – where details of United’s financials are stored.

It is understood that multiple parties from Saudi Arabia, which do not include the owners of Newcastle United, have been given such access. Whether they will now go on to make a formal offer is unclear.

The Glazer family reportedly want £6bn for the club, although they have not gone public with a price. They are also open to two separate forms of investment.

The first is in the shape of a standalone injection of cash in return for a stake in the club.

The second is a more complex commercial partnership, in which expertise in such areas as media and retail would also be provided.

It is understood that these areas have attracted more than 20 parties. Such levels of interest strengthen the position of the Glazers, who could take a stake rather than oversee a full sale.
It remains the case, according to those familiar with the process, that a takeover is the likeliest outcome.

As this newspaper reported, the Qataris – who are separate from the QSI group which owns Paris Saint Germain – are confident that theirs will be the strongest bid.

According to a Bloomberg report, Ratcliffe has lined up banks including Goldman Sachs to provide debt financing for a potential bid.

 

[mil1lion]

Even United seems to conclude the takeover faster than us. Well, no surprise I guess. If we judge how we deal inside a transfer window period, we will probably only get any takeover discussion done 6 years later.

Well they've publicly been put on sale and we're not even for sale. We're just being linked with investment. Even then only for the last month have we supposedly been in talks.

 

[SaKkA.kenchiku]

I really don't see Utd being any different to City or Chelsea, maybe Newcastle in time. The size and stature of club is pretty irrelevant nowadays. Chelsea are still signing 100m players and sitting mid table. City soon started to attract the best players after the takeover. Chelsea did when Roman arrived. It's just going to be the same situation with Utd. Players aren't going to care which of those clubs they join as long as they get big wages they know they're going to compete. Utd haven't won as much in recent years as City or Chelsea anyway. Players aren't going to favour them because historically they have more titles or because they have a large fan base.

I still think there is a big difference in the monetary value and global appeal of teams like Man United and Liverpool, Real, Barcelona from someone like Man City. From my living in Asia over the last 15 years I have still yet to see anyone follow or wear anything affiliated with City, I have seen a lot more from Spurs (Son lead) but United and Liverpool they have cemented their following and reputation over the decades across the globe. Few seem to follow or care for City. Chelsea however seemed to have cemented their status much more than City have but I suspect that’s because of the profile of players they bought in comparison to City, or perhaps because they’ve won the Champions league…..

I think United and Liverpool would command much more value because of their following and history and exposure across the globe….

 

[Yiddo100]

They have put a public deadline on bids of mid february. The fact they instructed the Raine Group to actually sell the club rather than our half hearted attempts show they want to get rid of it, I doubt ENIC actually do. Although what they are actually selling isn't really clear.



The first stage of the process, which is soon to conclude, invited expressions of interest.

Those who signed confidentiality agreements were then given access to what is called the ‘data room’ – where details of United’s financials are stored.

It is understood that multiple parties from Saudi Arabia, which do not include the owners of Newcastle United, have been given such access. Whether they will now go on to make a formal offer is unclear.

The Glazer family reportedly want £6bn for the club, although they have not gone public with a price. They are also open to two separate forms of investment.

The first is in the shape of a standalone injection of cash in return for a stake in the club.

The second is a more complex commercial partnership, in which expertise in such areas as media and retail would also be provided.

It is understood that these areas have attracted more than 20 parties. Such levels of interest strengthen the position of the Glazers, who could take a stake rather than oversee a full sale.
It remains the case, according to those familiar with the process, that a takeover is the likeliest outcome.

As this newspaper reported, the Qataris – who are separate from the QSI group which owns Paris Saint Germain – are confident that theirs will be the strongest bid.

According to a Bloomberg report, Ratcliffe has lined up banks including Goldman Sachs to provide debt financing for a potential bid.

Have Enic actually said they want to sell though?

 

[glacierSpurs]

Well they've publicly been put on sale and we're not even for sale. We're just being linked with investment. Even then only for the last month have we supposedly been in talks.

IMO, anything and everything has a price for Levy. Will he ever outrightly put us up for sale? I personally wouldn't think so as he just wanna have as much control as possible and not lose any bargaining power.

 

[Dakes]

I still think there is a big difference in the monetary value and global appeal of teams like Man United and Liverpool, Real, Barcelona from someone like Man City. From my living in Asia over the last 15 years I have still yet to see anyone follow or wear anything affiliated with City, I have seen a lot more from Spurs (Son lead) but United and Liverpool they have cemented their following and reputation over the decades across the globe. Few seem to follow or care for City. Chelsea however seemed to have cemented their status much more than City have but I suspect that’s because of the profile of players they bought in comparison to City, or perhaps because they’ve won the Champions league…..

I think United and Liverpool would command much more value because of their following and history and exposure across the globe….

Chelsea and Arsenal are pretty big here in Africa. That's due to their success whilst having African players in their teams (e.g. Drogba, Kanu, etc.). But United and Liverpool are still the most supported though.

 

[SaKkA.kenchiku]

Chelsea and Arsenal are pretty big here in Africa. That's due to their success whilst having African players in their teams (e.g. Drogba, Kanu, etc.). But United and Liverpool are still the most supported though.

Similar to Son and Asia, but City? ……Yaya is the biggest African pull for them… is there much support for City? Question as i have no idea and interested ?

 

[SaKkA.kenchiku]

Similar to Son and Asia, but City? ……Yaya is the biggest African pull for them… is there much support for City? Question as i have no idea and interested ?

Chelsea had a great flow of African talents especially Drogba who was a machine of talent

 

[Dakes]

Similar to Son and Asia, but City? ……Yaya is the biggest African pull for them… is there much support for City? Question as i have no idea and interested ?

I have been seeing more and more City shirts being worn in recent years, so City's footprint is growing. But the roots of the other clubs are too strong. Support for them goes back many many decades. I can tell that the ones wearing City jerseys are not ardent football followers (I am basing this only on people I know who wear the shirts and the female celebrities who do so as well).

So I would anecdotally call the City fans here 'plastics'.

 

[mil1lion]

I still think there is a big difference in the monetary value and global appeal of teams like Man United and Liverpool, Real, Barcelona from someone like Man City. From my living in Asia over the last 15 years I have still yet to see anyone follow or wear anything affiliated with City, I have seen a lot more from Spurs (Son lead) but United and Liverpool they have cemented their following and reputation over the decades across the globe. Few seem to follow or care for City. Chelsea however seemed to have cemented their status much more than City have but I suspect that’s because of the profile of players they bought in comparison to City, or perhaps because they’ve won the Champions league…..

I think United and Liverpool would command much more value because of their following and history and exposure across the globe….

I'm speaking more in terms of transfers and on field success. I can't see Utd signing better players than City or winning more than they have. It will just be another team in the mix.
Utd will always be bigger than City or Chelsea but I don't see that making them anymore dominant. They've always had plenty of money anyway. Having Pep as manager has made the difference for City much like Jose did early on with Chelsea.
This is where I feel we could really benefit because we're not far off Utd and have finished above them in past seasons with far less spend. If we suddenly get a cash injection it's a bigger impact than Utd who already spend for fun. Especially if we keep Conte who is still one of the best managers in football.

 

[Ribble]

Fucking hell, as if United need any sort of financial assistance, they've been spending like the big boys for years.

That'd probably be one of the perks of the deal for them, they get football's largest marketing vehicle without needing to build anything up or lay any more money down past buying it.

 

[Spursberg]

I don’t get how the Saudis can own them and Newcastle though.|

Thing is, First they can have investment companies with different people although everyone knows it is the same and funneled through the state.

Second, these are extremely powerful people with huge investment in trade with the UK. If they want to make it happen, it will happen.

Same reason i have no faith in that the Man City punishment, if found guilty, will be any drastic measure like being expelled.
Because same here as with the Saudis, UK have so much trade with UAE that i guarantee there will be just as much corruption in the UK government to make sure their friendship and trade is intact.

The PL is such a big market now so we either join the money train or we will fall of in a couple of years.

 

[spursfan77]

Have Enic actually said they want to sell though?

that’s the billion dollar question. I’m not convinced deep down they do.

 

[cruise 99]

It should never have been allowed in the first place but you can blame the footballing authorities and poor governance for that.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing