Tottenham Vs Aston Villa: Match Thread

[14/04/91]

Was a stroll at 2-0 then conceding a silly goal (having got away with one not long before) made it nervy.

For the last 10 mins we looked what we are - a young, inexperienced team. Bit panicky, lots of hoofs clear & no one wanting to put their foot on the ball.
But we'll learn. We'll learn to kill teams off, not to take our foot off the pedal & not to panic if we concede.

 

[faymantaray]

Has this already been posted? Mike Dean - Spurs fan.

 

[GlennHoddle]

Was a stroll at 2-0 then conceding a silly goal (having got away with one not long before) made it nervy.

For the last 10 mins we looked what we are - a young, inexperienced team. Bit panicky, lots of hoofs clear & no one wanting to put their foot on the ball.
But we'll learn. We'll learn to kill teams off, not to take our foot off the pedal & not to panic if we concede.

Agree with most of your points and i was screaming at the tv at 2-1 for someone in midfield to show some composure and get their foot on the ball as opposed to just kicking it upfield. We were looking for someone to show some leadership.
Imho this came from an unlikely source in the last 7/8 mins. Lamela!
Watch the game back, took the ball into both corners at different times, frustrating villa and giving our defence some breathing space to regroup, wasting valuable mins. Then gave a quick pass to release kane for the final goal.
Credit where its due, he showed some b*lls when we needed it last night

 

[14/04/91]

Agree with most of your points and i was screaming at the tv at 2-1 for someone in midfield to show some composure and get their foot on the ball as opposed to just kicking it upfield. We were looking for someone to show some leadership.
Imho this came from an unlikely source in the last 7/8 mins. Lamela!
Watch the game back, took the ball into both corners at different times, frustrating villa and giving our defence some breathing space to regroup, wasting valuable mins. Then gave a quick pass to release kane for the final goal.
Credit where its due, he showed some b*lls when we needed it last night

He relieved pressure very well and used up a good few minutes.
His pass to Harry was half a yard behind him though if I'm being ultra critical!

 

[spursfan77]

I thought dembele did ok again. That's 3 good performances from him since he thought he's going to get sold in January. Maybe we should keep that threat hanging over him. Might be the only way to get consistent performances out of him!

 

[longtimespur]

He relieved pressure very well and used up a good few minutes.
His pass to Harry was half a yard behind him though if I'm being ultra critical!

Making it ideal for a shot back across their keeper.

Harry hit it perfectly.

 

[Lilbaz]

Agree with most of your points and i was screaming at the tv at 2-1 for someone in midfield to show some composure and get their foot on the ball as opposed to just kicking it upfield. We were looking for someone to show some leadership.
Imho this came from an unlikely source in the last 7/8 mins. Lamela!
Watch the game back, took the ball into both corners at different times, frustrating villa and giving our defence some breathing space to regroup, wasting valuable mins. Then gave a quick pass to release kane for the final goal.
Credit where its due, he showed some b*lls when we needed it last night

Did well last night. Still loses the ball to often and could do with a few more goals but i could make critcisms all over the pitch. Just hope he can keep improving and be the player we want him to be.

 

[Ironskullll]

Out-fouled by Villa 15-6, which is in real contrast to our previous games this season. Evidence perhaps of a less intense approach. And yet it's only the second time this season that Villa have lost by more than a single goal (the first time was against the Pensioners). And no bookings. We all know what our squad's limitations are and so it doesn't help to harp on and on about them, without at least lending them a bit of perspective. We are supposed to be supporters, after all. In the cold light of day that's not a bad day's work.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Say one thing about Lamela, he always manages to finish a game strongly, when the rest of the team seem to be dropping a bit. A 95 minute player.

 

[thinktank]

yet almost 90% of their chances came through Walker's side, and their goal came after Mason lost possesion like an amateur on our right side.
Lamela had nothing to do with AV's resurgence. I'd say he was the one that killed their momentum at the end.

Sucked inside and behind play - huge chasm on the left for villa....

Spoiler

A minute later still hasn't cover his position - ball played out to Richardson who has half of the pitch to decide to sail into...

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Dier is dragged over to support Walker, still no sign of coco...

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Enters the picture here, way behind play...

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They still have the ball with threat of a ball about to come into the box, he decides to stroll away from the threat leaving us short and kyle with 2 players to mark in that eventuality...

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Rose fights off threat and we're lucky to not concede corner - goal kick...

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Lloris goal kick, coco pushed over too central and too deep again, ball is turned over...chasm on the left for villa in behind coco, header aimed into the hole...

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Here, coco takes shot, admires it and doesn't start his trot back to support walker...

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Villa bound forward, walker starts his dash back...

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Think this is Sanchez running past eriksen to start their second attack in the sequence that lead to them scoring....coco is on their penalty spot walking...

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Cross field ball to Bacuna in oceans of space on the left for villa, in the same attack...coco not even in frame...

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Coco turns up but decides he won't be needed and jogs the other way...

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Realises that's an error and he might well be needed and faces our goal and starts to jog towards danger...

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Villa end up hitting the post. Soon after that, villa get a throw on the same side, Mason ends up having a mix-up with Dier and they score from a deflection. *pic=them hitting post

Spoiler

The Chasm in front of Walker was a big problem from 75mins onwards which is why I wanted Onomah to come on over to the right. It was clear coco was either too tired or not willing to fulfil the role needed from him in the last 15 mins, defensively. We need him to be sharp and track counters.

It was that space that gave villa the impetus and momentum that lead to their goal. We had clear danger signs leading up to it that we ignored.

If our discipline on the right was correct I don't think we would have conceded as we would have maintained control of the game.

And as far as everyone blaming mason for the goal, dier got in his way and there was a muddle between both of them. Mason had played some lovely balls up until then and we looked more fluid with him on imo

I'm a unapologetic lamela fanboy so my criticism of him always comes with love. And for me it's always TEAM first before any individual player no matter how much I love them. And, also, Eriksen is equally guilty of this sort of thing which is why I would much prefer both of them to play #10 and share that duty, for the most part (that sprint stat. for eriksen is rubbish as he jogs about mostly - god knows what they're classing as a sprint).

Poch should have seen the danger and closed the door on that threat earlier and they wouldn't have ended up scoring imo and we wouldn't have been scrambling in the last 10mins.

 

[Misfit]

Sucked inside and behind play - huge chasm on the left for villa....

Spoiler

A minute later still hasn't cover his position - ball played out to Richardson who has half of the pitch to decide to sail into...

Spoiler

Spoiler

Dier is dragged over to support Walker, still no sign of coco...

Spoiler

Enters the picture here, way behind play...

Spoiler

They still have the ball with threat of a ball about to come into the box, he decides to stroll away from the threat leaving us short and kyle with 2 players to mark in that eventuality...

Spoiler

Rose fights off threat and we're lucky to not concede corner - goal kick...

Spoiler

Lloris goal kick, coco pushed over too central and too deep again, ball is turned over...chasm on the left for villa in behind coco, header aimed into the hole...

Spoiler

Here, coco takes shot, admires it and doesn't start his trot back to support walker...

Spoiler

Villa bound forward, walker starts his dash back...

Spoiler

Think this is Sanchez running past eriksen to start their second attack in the sequence that lead to them scoring....coco is on their penalty spot walking...

Spoiler

Cross field ball to Bacuna in oceans of space on the left for villa, in the same attack...coco not even in frame...

Spoiler

Spoiler

Coco turns up but decides he won't be needed and jogs the other way...

Spoiler

Realises that's an error and he might well be needed and faces our goal and starts to jog towards danger...

Spoiler

Villa end up hitting the post. Soon after that, villa get a throw on the same side, Mason ends up having a mix-up with Dier and they score from a deflection.

Spoiler

The Chasm in front of Walker was a big problem from 75mins onwards which is why I wanted Onomah to come on over to the right. It was clear coco was either too tired or not willing to fulfil the role needed from him in the last 15 mins, defensively. We need him to be sharp and track counters.

It was that space that gave villa the impetus and momentum that lead to their goal. We had clear danger signs leading up to it that we ignored.

If our discipline on the right was correct I don't think we would have conceded as we would have maintained control of the game.

And as far as everyone blaming mason for the goal, dier got in his way and there was a muddle between both of them. Mason had played some lovely balls up until then and we looked more fluid with him on imo

I'm a unapologetic lamela fanboy so my criticism of him always comes with love. And for me it's always TEAM first before any individual player no matter how much I love them. And, also, Eriksen is equally guilty of this sort of thing which is why I would much prefer both of them to play #10 and share that duty, for the most part (that sprint stat. for eriksen is rubbish as he jogs about mostly - god knows what they're classing as a sprint).

Poch should have seen the danger and closed the door on that threat earlier and they wouldn't have ended up scoring imo and we wouldn't have been scrambling in the last 10mins.

Not that I entirely disagree.

 

[thinktank]

 

[Ossie85]

Sucked inside and behind play - huge chasm on the left for villa....

Spoiler

A minute later still hasn't cover his position - ball played out to Richardson who has half of the pitch to decide to sail into...

Spoiler

Spoiler

Dier is dragged over to support Walker, still no sign of coco...

Spoiler

Enters the picture here, way behind play...

Spoiler

They still have the ball with threat of a ball about to come into the box, he decides to stroll away from the threat leaving us short and kyle with 2 players to mark in that eventuality...

Spoiler

Rose fights off threat and we're lucky to not concede corner - goal kick...

Spoiler

Lloris goal kick, coco pushed over too central and too deep again, ball is turned over...chasm on the left for villa in behind coco, header aimed into the hole...

Spoiler

Here, coco takes shot, admires it and doesn't start his trot back to support walker...

Spoiler

Villa bound forward, walker starts his dash back...

Spoiler

Think this is Sanchez running past eriksen to start their second attack in the sequence that lead to them scoring....coco is on their penalty spot walking...

Spoiler

Cross field ball to Bacuna in oceans of space on the left for villa, in the same attack...coco not even in frame...

Spoiler

Spoiler

Coco turns up but decides he won't be needed and jogs the other way...

Spoiler

Realises that's an error and he might well be needed and faces our goal and starts to jog towards danger...

Spoiler

Villa end up hitting the post. Soon after that, villa get a throw on the same side, Mason ends up having a mix-up with Dier and they scores from a deflection off of verts.

Spoiler

The Chasm in front of Walker was a big problem from 75mins onwards which is why I wanted Onomah to come on over to the right. It was clear coco was either too tired or not willing to fulfil the role needed from him in the last 15 mins, defensively. We need him to be sharp and track counters.

It was that space that gave villa the impetus and momentum that lead to their goal. We had clear danger signs leading up to it that we ignored.

If our discipline on the right was correct I don't think we would have conceded as we would have maintained control of the game.

And as far as everyone blaming mason for the goal, dier got in his way and there was a muddle between both of them. Mason had played some lovely balls up until then and we looked more fluid with him on imo.

I'm a unapologetic lamela fanboy so my criticism of him always comes with love. And for me it's always TEAM first before any individual player no matter how much I love them. And, also, Eriksen is equally guilty of this sort of thing which is why I would much prefer both of them to play #10 and share that duty, for the most part (that sprint stat. for him is rubbish as he jogs about mostly - god knows what they're classing as a sprint).

Poch should have seen the danger and closed that door on that threat earlier and they wouldn't have ended up scoring imo and we wouldn't have been scrambling in the last 10mins.

AV's resurgence came when Lamela was playing on the left. You even said that in your original comment. Yet now you are giving me examples of situations where he didn't help Walker, who plays on the right.
But anyway, I'll give you my opinion on what you said. Lamela often backtracks more than any other winger we have. Yesterday he played more up the pitch than usual. He was basically a striker. I think that was coming from Pochettino. If he was supposed to be defending all the time I'm sure Pochettino would've been furious, but that was not the case. Consider also that the formation is not symmetric. Having 2 wingers doesn't mean they both have to play the same way. Yesterday we basically had 3 midfielders (Dembele-Alli and Dier) and a front 3. So I think that the defensive duties of covering our fullbacks were to be done by those 3, not by Eriksen or Lamela.

 

[thinktank]

AV's resurgence came when Lamela was playing on the left. You even said that in your original comment. Yet now you are giving me examples of situations where he didn't help Walker, who plays on the right.
But anyway, I'll give you my opinion on what you said. Lamela often backtracks more than any other winger we have. Yesterday he played more up the pitch than usual. He was basically a striker. I think that was coming from Pochettino. If he was supposed to be defending all the time I'm sure Pochettino would've been furious, but that was not the case. Consider also that the formation is not symmetric. Having 2 wingers doesn't mean they both have to play the same way. Yesterday we basically had 3 midfielders (Dembele-Alli and Dier) and a front 3. So I think that the defensive duties of covering our fullbacks were to be done by those 3, not by Eriksen or Lamela.

The left from villa's point of view when they had the ball. Thought that was obvious.

I also disagree with the rest of what you wrote there. If anyone watches the last 15mins closely it's clear what happened.

 

[Misfit]

AV's resurgence came when Lamela was playing on the left. You even said that in your original comment. Yet now you are giving me examples of situations where he didn't help Walker, who plays on the right.
But anyway, I'll give you my opinion on what you said. Lamela often backtracks more than any other winger we have. Yesterday he played more up the pitch than usual. He was basically a striker. I think that was coming from Pochettino. If he was supposed to be defending all the time I'm sure Pochettino would've been furious, but that was not the case. Consider also that the formation is not symmetric. Having 2 wingers doesn't mean they both have to play the same way. Yesterday we basically had 3 midfielders (Dembele-Alli and Dier) and a front 3. So I think that the defensive duties of covering our fullbacks were to be done by those 3, not by Eriksen or Lamela.

This is more thinking tbh. 3 CMs doesn't mean the wingers have the night off but eh, there's only so much each player can do.

 

[Misfit]

And ultimately, the blame for the goal does initially lay at Mason and Dier getting snafu'd so we're arguing about tiny details here wrt Lamela. Woulda been nice but not a massive error and even if it was, players make multiple errors each and every game so meh.

 

[thinktank]

And ultimately, the blame for the goal does initially lay at Mason and Dier getting snafu'd so we're arguing about tiny details here wrt Lamela. Woulda been nice but not a massive error and even if it was, players make multiple errors each and every game so meh.

All about momentum, mate. Watch the last 15mins again when you get a chance.

 

[Misfit]

All about momentum, mate. Watch the last 15mins again when you get a chance.

Will do mon frère.

 

[nicdic]

All about momentum, mate. Watch the last 15mins again when you get a chance.

Even if Lamela is the cause for the negative momentum, he is undoubtedly responsible for getting us to put our foot on the ball and regain our heads and composure at the end.

 

[thinktank]

Has this already been posted? Mike Dean - Spurs fan.

This one is never gonna get old. He's absolutely loving it.