Tottenham vs Real Madrid - Part II: The Match Thread

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  1. Sweetsman

    Sweetsman Well-Known Member

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    Now, that's what you call an airkick!
     
  2. ralvy

    ralvy Active Member

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    Okay, did Modric really say that?
     
  3. pffft

    pffft some kind of member

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    Someone once wrote Modric's transfer request:

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    So no, to answer your question.
     
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  4. Shadydan

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    Nope, as I keep saying I understand the rules but there are always contentious decisions and grey areas, like I pointed out before refs have used common sense in these situations in the past and given handballs despite the defender not meaning to touch the ball, it's not as black and white as you make out. It's all about context really, not EVERY decision should be given as a foul and not EVERY decision should be play on but depending on circumstance you should award the attacking team especially if that situation puts them at a disadvantage when they could have benefited from a promising situation...I don't even understand what you're trying to debate, there's overwhelming evidence numerous times which lays contrary to your claims.

    The only reason they won't change the rules to accidental handball is because it would create confusion and teams will try and buy penalties by kicking it against players' hands or arms.

    I haven't even seen the Modric incident to be honest but I'm not even arguing about that anyway, more against the mere insistence that handball's need to be deliberate to be given as a foul which is incorrect. BTW The penalty in the Utd/Benfica was given for handball fella, not the foul. (y)
     
  5. worcestersauce

    worcestersauce "I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope

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    I'm not sure I've ever been more impressed by anything in my life, that's brilliant.
     
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  6. ernie78

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    Last night was epic, the atmosphere was amazing and probably most importantly I put to bed my personal Wembley hoodoo - Since 1986 I have never seen any team I’ve supported win at Wembley. Be it football, rugby lge or internationals I have not seen a win. I initially didn’t want to go as I didn’t want to jinx Spurs to a kicking but am so glad I saw that and can go again finally.
     
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  7. ClintEastwould

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    Cant wait to get in from class and watch the game again, with beers, popcorn and slo-mo at the ready. Last time I did that was Arsenal in 2015 with Kane's winner and before that, Inter 3-1.

    Glory Glory Tottenham Hotspur!
     
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  8. SpursDave88

    SpursDave88 Well-Known Member

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    This plus every time we don't win "the league is gone"
     
  9. 1882andallthat

    1882andallthat Well-Known Member

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    From the moment that draw was announced most of the pundits had pretty much written us off and didn't even offer us a wing and a prayers chance of getting out of this group, they were saying unequivocally that we were in the pretty much same boat as Celtic which wasn't bound for the knockout stages unlike Liverpool Chelsea Man Utd and Man City who had the so called golden passages.

    I must admit you could see what they were basing it on in that they only had to look back to last seasons group stages at Wembley, even I had my doubts and thought we'd be right up against it. How wrong could many of us most of them be ? We were everything in the group stages that we weren't last year and that is he biggest understatement of the year, we were bold, brave, decisive, we had clear tactical plans and we didn't freeze on the big stage.

    We now need three points from the last two games to guarantee top spot, who'd have though it ? A fantastic achievement, COYS, let's finish the job off in style and go through as group winners, let some of the other English teams worry about pulling Real Madrid out of the hat in the knockout stages.
     
  10. kr1978

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    Only on SC could a match thread after we have given Madrid a good kicking turn into an argument on the handball rules :LOL:
     
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  11. TottenhamMattSpur

    TottenhamMattSpur Well-Known Member

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    I'm just watching the recording of BT live coverage yesterday. Why do they keep saying a win would guarantee we go through? If Dortmund or Apoel had won they could mathematically have caught us?

    Irrelevant now I know but it's bugging me
     
  12. SpursDave88

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    No they were correct and you were wrong.

    Had Dortmund won, they would have been 6 points behind us with 2 games to play whilst Real were 3 behind us.

    For Dortmund to finish above us they would then have to win both their games, including beating Madrid.

    If that had happened then Madrid could at most get 3 points, thus being level on points with us but finishing below us because of the head to head record.

    Ie if Dortmund had beaten Apoel and won both their remaining games, RM would have dropped intk Europa.
     
  13. fletch82

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    That is the definition but.....

    It' horse shit if a unfair advantage is gained by the player it should be a free ick or in Ramos case last night a pen
    If you score from a handball accidental or not it should be hand ball period
    Same as if you keep the ball out of your bet accidentally ala Ramos last night it should be a pen.
    Silly feckin rule that needs revising yet again.
     
  14. TottenhamMattSpur

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    If we beat Madrid and Dortmund beat us and Madrid (had they won against Apoel) they'd have finished on 10 points, same as us if we lost to Apoel.

    It would then have gone to head to head between us and Dortmund to decide who finished higher.
    If Madrid had beaten Apoel but, as I mentioned, lost to Dortmund, they too would have been on 10 points and gone head to head with Dortmund and us.

    So I can't see How, had Dortmund have won yesterday, we would have been through.
     
  15. SpursDave88

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    Because RM would have finished below us because of the head to head. Having drawn and lost to us...
     
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  16. Spurger King

    Spurger King can't smile without glue

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    This. Beating Real guaranteed a three way tie at the top of the table on points, at worst.

    As our head to head v Real was better, we’d finish at least second.
     
  17. Cheltenham Spur

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    The tiebreaker if 3 teams are level on points is points in matches between them.

    In the scenario above we would have topped the group and Madrid would have gone out.
     
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  20. thinktank

    thinktank Hmmm...

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