Tottenham Vs West Brom: Match Thread

[markiespurs]

But last season we started out playing The two strongest teams in the league, So that was understandable.

think you missed my point mate, I was referring to the corresponding fixtures last year, not this time last year

 

[Mr Pink]

The PL is ruthless, it doesn't give you time for bedding in new systems and methods. We had to hit the ground running, not fanny around with a team that offers no creativity.

I watched Swansea earlier. New manager, but still playing the same system, which so far has been pretty effective. How do they managed to win two games with so called lesser players. Answer... if it aint broke dont try and fix it and thats what they have done. We on the other hand believe in the absolute opposite.

And we'll finish above them by about 20-30 points probably in the end. What some like you fail to understand, is that over the long run we'll be better for the changes AVB is trying to do. He's restricted in terms of what he has had/has at his disposal but that should change this week.

 

[Spursking]

This game reminded me of when we had Jol in charge as a manager of Spurs. Injury time equalizer because we were trying to defend a lead. Happened a lot of times under Jol. Attack is the best defense in my opinion. We should press forward at home even when leading 1-0. We should not defend. Every now and then we will get punished when attacking, but most of the time, we will be in a winning position if we keep the ball and keep on attacking even though we are only leading with one goal. We want to play exciting football, and we did not really see a lot of that today. We simply need more creative and exciting players. Hopefully they will add a couple before the transfer window shuts. COYS!!! A frustrating day.

 

[YidSurfer]

think you missed my point mate

Did I ! Explain please how !!.. I think if we had the exact same fixtures last season as this one, harry's team would of done better.

 

[scottlag10]

This game reminded me of when we had Jol in charge as a manager of Spurs. Injury time equalizer because we were trying to defend a lead. Happened a lot of times under Jol. Attack is the best defense in my opinion. We should press forward at home even when leading 1-0. We should not defend. Every now and then we will get punished when attacking, but most of the time, we will be in a winning position if we keep the ball and keep on attacking even though we are only leading with one goal. We want to play exciting football, and we did not really see a lot of that today. We simply need more creative and exciting players. Hopefully they will add a couple before the transfer window shuts. COYS!!! A frustrating day.

 

[markiespurs]

Did I ! Explain please how !!.. I think if we had the exact same fixtures last season as this one, harry's team would of done better.

only this time next week will we be able to tell if Harry did better over the same corresponding fixtures last season.

Last season we drew away at Newcastle, Won against West Brom and lost against Norwich, which gave us 4 points from those 3 games.

This season we have lost away at Newcastle and have drawn at home against West brom, a win next week against Norwich would give us 4 points, exactly the same points total we gained from those same 3 games last season.

 

[OnTheUp]

And we'll finish above them by about 20-30 points probably in the end. What some like you fail to understand, is that over the long run we'll be better for the changes AVB is trying to do. He's restricted in terms of what he has had/has at his disposal but that should change this week.

Sorry, but this is just BS. How is making our first team perform worse better for us in the long run?

 

[tony0379]

Ok he made a massive mistake by taking sandro off but surely if vdv,bale and vertonghen could use the other foot as well as their better foot we would have been 3-0 up and these idiot anti AVB fans wouldn,t tire us with these '' we shouldn,t have got rid of harry '' comments. Yes redknapp could have gone down as 1 of the best spurs managers till he committed football suicide in the space of a few months - 10pt lead,no rotation, publicly said he wanted england job, everytime spurs lost he would big himself up by saying we are overachieving ( maybe so but you dont disrespect the hand that feeds you, and of course who could remember the now infamous " i want chelsea to win the champions league only to take it back after a week. At the end redtwat didnt give a flying fuck about spurs and thats why levy sacked him. Now ffs lets get behind AVB and our team and not slate a man who has seriously been undermined by his chairman with this now tiresome modric saga. We have a week to go in the transfer market which will determine if we will be mid table crap or genuine top 4 contenders . The buck stops with you Mr levy which shall it be?

 

[YidSurfer]

But he didn't do better did he

Last season we drew away at Newcastle, Won against West Brom and lost against Norwich, which gave us 4 points from those 3 games.

This season we have lost away at Newcastle and have drawn at home against West brom, a win next week against Norwich would give us 4 points, exactly the same points total we gained from those same 3 games last season.

Why are you including and assuming were are going to win against norwich. Take that game out of the equation and Harry's team did do better.

 

[felmani26]

Some absolute guff spouted on here tonight!

How can AVB be expected to implement his system and ideologies whilst in the midst of player upheaval all within two months of being appointed?!

We will pick up results soon enough but this is still inherently Harry's team and it still has the good and bad points of AVB's predecessor so it's absolutely far too early to judge AVB on his impact thus far and anyone who is starting to write him off at this stage needs their head examined.

 

[scottlag10]

WIsh some Spurs fans would lay off AVB, give him a f...ing chance.
Levy has six days to get us out of the transfer mess he has created. Lets hope that this week brings us the class signings that we need (priority being creative midfield player) and rids us of the last of the dead wood. This weeks activity is the key to everything, or we shall be coming out of this transfer window weaker than we went in. If this season goes pear shaped Levy is to blame, nobody else.

 

[markiespurs]

Why are you including and assuming were are going to win against norwich. Take that game out of the equation and Harry's team did do better.

Just changed what I posted

My main point is that all this doom and gloom needs to be put into the context of a whole season and like I've said, if we beat Norwich next week, then we will have the same points total out of those three games that we had over the corresponding games last season, when we finished 4th.

like I said in my original post, it's all swings and roundabouts and 2 games into a season is far too early for all the doom and knee-jerk reactions around here today

 

[OnTheUp]

Some absolute guff spouted on here tonight!

How can AVB be expected to implement his system and ideologies whilst in the midst of player upheaval all within two months of being appointed?!

We will pick up results soon enough but this is still inherently Harry's team still and it still has the good and bad points of AVB's predecessor so it's absolutely far too early to judge AVB on his impact thus far and anyone who is starting to write him off at this stage needs their head examined.

Dear god, I'm beginning to think fans like you actually like the mediocrity we temporarily escaped from.

Glad to hear fans at the ground boooing though. AVB has got to perform better than HR straight away, no excuses. If he doesn't he deserves to be criticised because he's not getting the players to achieve the results Harry could.

 

[GlennHoddle]

just like the many texts on my phone, this place makes me embarrassed to be a spurs fan.

wot more could avb have done today?

Sandro was on his last legs when he was brought off, the only option was jenas, tell me wot harry would have done differently?
Rem parker is injured and ratface has f***ed up another pre season for us!

Gallas is a world cup winner, should he not have enough experience to command his teammates to push out and not concede stupid corners in the injury time or is that avb's fault?

Dawson probably would have commanded the box for the corners, but that is a big probably, hindsight is great, what would the backlash be if AVB brought Daws/Caulker on for a midfielder and we still conceded a late goal?

We need to give AVB time and Levy needs to back him, Levy has not come good on the promises we all expect he would have made to AVB before he took over.

And there is no point in comparing Harry to AVB, different managers/coaches, and to be fair Harry had a better squad to work with than AVB has had for the last month.

Get the squad finalised and settled, then lets come back and rate AVB......

 

[YidSurfer]

I'm merely pointing out stats not spouting about harry. And also as someone else stated, The premier League is not the place to cock about trying different things. As AVB is starting to discover.

Lets see how patient and faithful fans will be if these so called transfers don't Materialise.
And a defeat at the hands of Norwich. I watch with interest.
I'm not getting any delusions of grandeur about AVB like some are..
Oh.. And did you hear on the radio today, AVB claims there will be NO more strikers being signed. LOL

 

[septicsac]

I think AVB will feel kinda let down by the the board & Levy(mind you if he knew anything about us then he should have known better)...pretty sure he thought/hoped he would have started the season with everything in place and not have to be firefighting, trying to move players on and waiting for the modric situation to be sorted. Think we will have a clearer picture once the window closes and then again about 10 games into the season.

 

[nedley]

just like the many texts on my phone, this place makes me embarrassed to be a spurs fan.

wot more could avb have done today?

Sandro was on his last legs when he was brought off, the only option was jenas, tell me wot harry would have done differently?
Rem parker is injured and ratface has f***ed up another pre season for us!

Gallas is a world cup winner, should he not have enough experience to command his teammates to push out and not concede stupid corners in the injury time or is that avb's fault?

Dawson probably would have commanded the box for the corners, but that is a big probably, hindsight is great, what would the backlash be if AVB brought Daws/Caulker on for a midfielder and we still conceded a late goal?

We need to give AVB time and Levy needs to back him, Levy has not come good on the promises we all expect he would have made to AVB before he took over.

And there is no point in comparing Harry to AVB, different managers/coaches, and to be fair Harry had a better squad to work with than AVB has had for the last month.

Get the squad finalised and settled, then lets come back and rate AVB......

Good post.

 

[felmani26]

Dear god, I'm beginning to think fans like you actually like the mediocrity we temporarily escaped from.

Glad to hear fans at the ground boooing though. AVB has got to perform better than HR straight away, no excuses. If he doesn't he deserves to be criticised because he's not getting the players to achieve the results Harry could.

So we didn't have shit results with Harry at the helm then?

Point is, nothing is won or lost at this early stage so whilst we haven't had the results we would have liked, what possible benefit is it to get on the managers back now?!

And this bollocks that Harry would have got 6 points is just unsubstantiated bullshit that people like you like to peddle to make others think you're so knowledgeable.

Give me strength!

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

Sorry, but this is just BS. How is making our first team perform worse better for us in the long run?

I don't get that either. How much better than one point off third. the whole point was to improve surely. All this footballing ethos, 5 year plan is a load of flannel if we fall behind the pack this year it will be even harder to make up the difference especially with our better players probably wanting to leave. The point is why did we need a transition season.

 

[Mr Pink]

Sorry, but this is just BS. How is making our first team perform worse better for us in the long run?

you really are a bit special...