Tottenham Vs West Ham: Match Thread

[glacierSpurs]

He got Chelsea really humming last year, hey turned into title contenders in that latter part of the year. If they'd have kept him they'd have continued to build the team around Mata and would be favourites IMO.

But I cant see him leaving his current post.

Napoli was out of UCL right? that might be good selling point...

 

[MikeCOYS]

I don't know if it's Sherwood and AVB fault, or all down to our players.

Despite a new manager, the team still plays the same: Possession, long-shots and misses (lots).

OK, something has changed, the players have more grit and passion to their play now but the style of play remains.


We can't defend, can't create chances and can't score. I started to think hard about why that's so, here's what I think:

Out of all our players, none has good shooting accuracy (except a few):

1. Dembele prefers not to shoot... and when he does they're often on target (mind blown..)
2. Adebayor holding man
3. Townsend beats a player and when he can cross, he tries to beat him again and then loses his chance
4. Lennon, self-explanatory
5. Chadli does fancy tricks but no end product
6. Lamela more of a provider but low on confidence and will improve IMO
7. Paulinho is a holder
8. Eriksen, he's still adapting
9. Holtby plays too deep for a man with such great vision (just below Eriksen)

To sum up our offensive bunch of players are bunch of Modric, Xavi, Iniesta, Makelele, Scholes, Ozil etc. type players, by that I mean they're undoubted talented but not the scoring goals type.

We need players like Hazard, Ramsay, Lampard, Llalana, Oscar, Cabaye etc. These type of players have goals in them.

Also, I think these players will blossom and Spurs will be a force to be reckon with in a year or 2.

Remember the relegation days with Ramos? Those players are talented but took a lot of time to gel. I think the same thing is happening right now.

That's the downside of buying too many foreign players at once.

However, this isn't an excuse for performing so badly week in week out as they train daily with each other.

Would AVB have turned Spurs into a title competing force in a year or 2 after they've all gelled? We shall never know.

 

[Jack]

Unlucky?

Look mate, I would accept someone saying on reflection we were probably unlucky to lose. However the subs were madness. Rose shouldn't have played if we had concerns over him lasting the 90 mins as the game could always have run long, Adebayor coming off would have been fine if Soldado had started with him but Defoe's love for standing offside and not giving us any presence upfront when it was clear they were going to bang in the long ball.

Yes the Townsend sub was unlucky but why not just use that sub to reinforce the midfield and tell Defoe to stand out as a wide striker and be useless there rather than through the middle, wouldn't have made much of a difference.

So where would you rather give Danny Rose game time. In the league or the cup? Sherwood will have picked that team (as all THFC managers playing West Ham should) in the hope that we're 2-0 up by 60 mins. That way he can rest his unfit players withouth morons like you calling him on it.

 

[Bennys LOL]

LEVY!! have a good long look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are competent at your job as chairman of a football club.

 

[Kendall]

If everyone chips in a quid I don't mind driving Defoe to Canada.

I'll give you a tenner to drive into the North Atlantic. Sure.

 

[greaves]

We should all take turns, we couldn't do any worse.

A and C do the Thursdays, you and I can split the weekends.

 

[Pican]

Maybe if we stopped singing defoes name, the board might get shot off him. He's an excuse of a premier league striker!!!

THIS! He offers absolutely NOTHING and should have been sold years ago.

 

[Wick3d]

I guess you can be afforded excuses when you've had two days and got your only real fit centre back suspended and no proper CM to come in. Unlike a guy that has failed to get a team playing for 18 months.

I know. Just an odd thing because AVB never got support in the media during his 18 month stint as manager.

 

[Armstrong_11]

Rubbish.... Utter rubbish...

We played better at 0-0 then we did at 1-0...

We sort of like... We got a goal, and we will win the game. We just didn't up our game... West ham took the game to another level, and we were not able to match it. And we paid the price.

Total disappointment...

 

[RuskyM]

TS: Adebayor doesn't have a point to prove to the fans, but I have no hesitation to keep him around the team if he shows same drive.

So it sounds like Sherwood is sticking around.

Excuse me.

 

[tottenham28]

What we lacked last year, we still lack after spending 110m.

We never replaced Modric with anyone similar.

We have no1 in the middle of the park who wants the ball. Who will take it under pressure. Biggest mistake we have made, not buying a similar player.

Our midfielders are all athletes but scared to receive the ball under pressure, this we find ourselves passing along back 4 and back to keeper

Agree slightly but ever so slightly.
Dembele will take the ball all over the park but he is so slow in forward thinking, any attack is 99% nullified.

 

[phillipjpalmer]

the main problem with 4-4-2 is that you need the ball to stick with the front men, Defoe just can't do it, he's either too weak or offside, as soon as adebayor went off we had no ball retention.

I really wanted to see us get some silverware and play at wembley so for me this is a bitter pill to swallow

 

[riggi]

i wonder how riggi is feeling

Seasons over for me.

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

I don't know if it's Sherwood and AVB fault, or all down to our players.

Despite a new manager, the team still plays the same: Possession, long-shots and misses (lots).

OK, something has changed, the players have more grit and passion to their play now but the style of play remains.


We can't defend, can't create chances and can't score. I started to think hard about why that's so, here's what I think:

Out of all our players, none has good shooting accuracy (except a few):

1. Dembele prefers not to shoot... and when he does they're often on target (mind blown..)
2. Adebayor holding man
3. Townsend beats a player and when he can cross, he tries to beat him again and then loses his chance
4. Lennon, self-explanatory
5. Chadli does fancy tricks but no end product
6. Lamela more of a provider but low on confidence and will improve IMO
7. Paulinho is a holder
8. Eriksen, he's still adapting
9. Holtby plays too deep for a man with such great vision (just below Eriksen)

To sum up our offensive bunch of players are bunch of Modric, Xavi, Iniesta, Makelele, Scholes, Ozil etc. type players, by that I mean they're undoubted talented but not the scoring goals type.

We need players like Hazard, Ramsay, Lampard, Llalana, Oscar, Cabaye etc. These type of players have goals in them.

Also, I think these players will blossom and Spurs will be a force to be reckon with in a year or 2.

Remember the relegation days with Ramos? Those players are talented but took a lot of time to gel. I think the same thing is happening right now.

That's the downside of buying too many foreign players at once.

However, this isn't an excuse for performing so badly week in week out as they train daily with each other.

Would AVB have turned Spurs into a title competing force in a year or 2 after they've all gelled? We shall never know.

Players have a hell of a lot to answer for. That was a poo poor west ham under strength. Embarrassing if that was their best response to Sunday!

 

[barry]

I found myself laughing in hysterical disbelief when that winner went in. What a fucking week this has been.

Soton is going to be grim, isn't it?

Snap bro.. I actually laughed till the end of the match. I was calm throughout which was so cool. It was cathartic. After the removal of AVB I was just happier to be a Spurs fan, win, lose or draw.

 

[Gedson100]

This is actually a really good point: From what we understand, Sherwood was probably instrumental in most of our new signings. AND EVEN HE DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY THEM!

Maybe he wanted to look at the others, see if they measured up or should be shipped on (I know, hopeful)

 

[jezz]

Too much sense, just moan more and call Tim a clueless wanker.

Some of the reaction here is laughable, for most of that game we were far better, we created, we attacked, we kept the ball. It was much more positive than 60% of our performances under AVB...our makeshift and rusty defence played pretty poorly when called upon and we conceded (two decent finishes tbf). Let's have a bit of fucking perspective, I saw more fight and gusto in that side for an hour than I've seen most of the season, maybe he isn't the answer long term, but fuck me like, give the guy a break.

It's the shit cup too, seriously, who really gives a fuck?

You may now continue the fucking doom-mongering.

i actually give a fcuk about losing to west ham reserves.
For all the we gave the ball to wingers to cross the ball and hope someone gets on the end is shit footabll.
And we scored once and once only.
Top 4 with that pile of crap tactics is delusional to say the least.
Yeah he can have a break in the background for ever for all i care.
Get a decent manager and quick or our top players will be gone.

 

[glacierSpurs]

I hope Sherwood learnt the lesson of 5-man midfield doesn't necessarily give you the choke.. cos Big Sam uses boring long balls.. and especially so effective against our makeshift and nervy defence..

 

[dricha1]

is just a league Cu

Napoli was out of UCL right? that might be good selling point...

Italian league not so high profile either. I know his family still lives locally, and London is closer than Napoli. I just think he'd steady the ship and is a relatively low risk appt.

 

[idontgetit]

It's alright, I bet Spurs has been the direct cause of many spree-killing rampages in the past!

Apparently it's included in a clause under the Nuclear Treaties Act that no head of a nuclear state can be a Spurs fan