Training Ground to get a 500 Seat Stand?

[michaelden]

http://www.enfield-today.co.uk/News.cfm?id=5408

Spurs plan 500-seater stand on green belt site

Monday, 17 February 2014

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By Ruth McKee


RESIDENTS in the north of the borough are horrified over plans to build a 500-seater stand on the site of a controversial premier league training centre.

Tottenham Hotspur Football Club opened their multimillion pound training centre in Bulls Cross, off Whitewebbs Lane to all players at the club last year and now they have applied to Enfield Council for a “minor material amendment” to add a 500-seater-stand and extra floodlights to the centre.

However, residents and environmental campaigners are horrified at the prospect of further development on the site which is nestled in the heart of Enfield's green belt land, just inside the M25.

Jose O'Ware, who lives in Rosemary Avenue, to the south of the training ground fears that this application could be “the thin end of the edge”.

“It's a training ground, why on earth do they need to seat 500 people?

“My concern is why they need such a big spectator stand. Is this the thin end of the wedge? When the time comes and they want to redevelop the Tottenham site – will they then decide to just move the whole stadium up there?”

She is stunned that the club seem to be encouraging more people on to the site without any work done to Whitewebbs Lane that would alleviate congestion on the narrow country road.

“The roads around there were never built for a huge amount of traffic and if this stand is now going to be used by 500 people how will the road cope especially as there is no public transport nearby.

“I mean people aren't going to be walking there from the A10 are they?”
But a spokesman from Tottenham Hotspur stressed that the stands will only be for existing spectators, such as parents of young players and talent scouts.

He added that as they are not expecting an added influx of spectators, that they would not be carrying out extension or resurfacing work on Whitewebbs Lane.

“Also, although there will be added floodlights they will never be lit at the same time as the existing ones,” the spokesman added.

The proposal is still pending approval by Enfield Council's planning committee.

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[michaelden]

I like the idea, means support for the youth matches, maybe Barca type training sessions etc... But some old bag doesn't like it. Thinks we'll move the whole stadium up there... WTF?! Over dramatisation by her.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

F**k greenfield sites. They are so Naughties.

 

[michaelden]

The amount of times I've seen schemes canned because of greenfield lobbyists. Its an archaic law for an older time, we need to move on to benefit all.

 

[deadmanwalking]

Quite like the idea myself.

 

[biscuitbeck]

Not sure how much effect it will really have on us as supporters of the club if we can't even use it anyway? It'd be good if it could be used by fans but it sounds like it's just to make it easier for the current spectators, scouts and parents, to watch the games and training.

 

[Kendall]

Understand her concerns about congestion, but seriously, 500 people on the odd occasion (it won't be for every training session), is it really going to affect things that much?

I like the idea it it gives fans the chance to view training from time to time. I know sometimes we do it on the WHL pitch, but rarely.

 

[Ironskullll]

F**k greenfield sites. They are so Naughties.

I bet not a single tree will fall for this development. Yet "brown field sites" such as back gardens with plenty of trees, bats, butterflies and the likes in the shires are preferred for development. To understand the results, think of the floods we've had lately. The whole environmental/green thing needs rethinking. But maybe this isn't the right place for that!

 

[class of 62]

F**k greenfield sites. They are so Naughties.

as is jose oware!.. is she still complaining about anything & everything.. left enfield 10 years ago & she was a professional moaner & whinger then!.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

“It's a training ground, why on earth do they need to seat 500 people?

It's where our youth train - if your son was playing for Spurs, would you rather watch the juniors standing around on the sidelines, like over the marshes, or sitting down in a stand?

But a spokesman from Tottenham Hotspur stressed that the stands will only be for existing spectators, such as parents of young players and talent scouts.

As the club clearly state later in the article. Rough maths says with ~36 players involved in each match, factor in siblings etc. and that's probably close to 100 family members for each game. Couple of games one after the other, count in the scouts and other staff, plus any press and the stand is already more than half full.

“My concern is why they need such a big spectator stand. Is this the thin end of the wedge? When the time comes and they want to redevelop the Tottenham site – will they then decide to just move the whole stadium up there?"

Don't be an idiot.

She is stunned that the club seem to be encouraging more people on to the site without any work done to Whitewebbs Lane that would alleviate congestion on the narrow country road.

“The roads around there were never built for a huge amount of traffic and if this stand is now going to be used by 500 people how will the road cope especially as there is no public transport nearby.

“I mean people aren't going to be walking there from the A10 are they?”

So you know that, we know that, what's your complaint really? Btw, are you the same woman who was complaining about this very same subject when we first put in the proposals for our training ground to be built? Said the area would be ruined, roads eating cars, think of the children etc? Yeah, didn't happen then so i'm inclined to wonder if you're complaining just for the pleasure of complaining.

 

[jambreck]

Not sure how much effect it will really have on us as supporters of the club if we can't even use it anyway? It'd be good if it could be used by fans but it sounds like it's just to make it easier for the current spectators, scouts and parents, to watch the games and training.

Fans are allowed to attend U21 and U18 games at the training ground, from what I understand.

 

[jambreck]

I bet not a single tree will fall for this development. Yet "brown field sites" such as back gardens with plenty of trees, bats, butterflies and the likes in the shires are preferred for development. To understand the results, think of the floods we've had lately. The whole environmental/green thing needs rethinking. But maybe this isn't the right place for that!

Not quite.

The cladding will be wood!

 

[jambreck]

I like the idea it it gives fans the chance to view training from time to time. I know sometimes we do it on the WHL pitch, but rarely.

Pretty sure that this will only be for U21 and U18 games. Not training.

 

[jambreck]

All of the following renders were posted yesterday on the Training Ground thread in the stadium section but in case some of you haven't seen them:

 

[Deleted member 26368]

Designs look pretty cool and unobtrusive - should keep that miserable bint from moaning.

Slightly off topic, anyone been to the new training complex? Do the club offer tours? I'd love to have a nose around.

(on a side note, I just googled Jose O'Ware for some back info on her previous complaints about Spurs. Turns out she stood for UKIP in the 1999 European Election. Fancy that!).

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Looks very cool. I don't see what there is to complain about, it's very unobstrusive

 

[worcestersauce]

So thats like, 10 rows of fifty seats how high do they think that would be?
Even if you doubled it wiyh rows of 25!

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

Will there be a Sainburys beside the new stand...??

 

[have_it]

We're the bike shed...we're the bike shed,
we're the bike shed Bulls Cross

 

[Shanks]

I see this and immediately think - it's a viewing gallery being built to sell off our assets at a profit ;-)