Uefa investigates Celtic chants

[JamesTheYiddo]

Uefa is examining videos appearing to show Celtic supporters involved in sectarian chanting in Barcelona.

A Uefa spokesman confirmed the footage included singing outside and inside the Nou Camp for the Champions League last-16 match on 4 March.

"We have received some footage showing Celtic supporters singing some alleged anti-Queen and pro-IRA songs - sectarian songs," he said.

"If the investigation is conclusive, a disciplinary case would be opened."

Several videos have been brought to Uefa's attention, including film of supporters at the 'fan-zone' designated for travelling supporters.

"We take care of all manifestations of sectarian singing," the Uefa spokesman added.

"The only condition is that it must be in the immediate surrounding area of the stadium. There was alleged sectarian singing inside the stadium.

"It will depend on the easiness of having these songs understood and the quest of finding other evidence."

 

[Dougal]

Wow, Uefa didn't waste any time there did they? Celtic fans singing pro-IRA and anti-Queen songs, well I never!

"It will depend on the easiness of having these songs understood and the quest of finding other evidence." - Google it you fecking idiots :roll:

 

[paul_1979yid]

and no mention of elephants

 

[N10toN17]

I've had the misfortune of being stuck on a tube with celtic supporters once, I've seen some hairy stuff down the years but I'd say they were the nastiest and most offensive bunch I've had the pleasure of meeting, funnily enough the other crapiest supporters I've come across were rangers fans. Hmmm, I'm seeing a pattern emerging here.

 

[Kevealis]

About time too. If it was pro-AlQuida chants then they would be banned from Europe in seconds. But supporting the IRA is deemed acceptable.

 

[Kevealis]

and i've now just read that they have gotten away with it again. Shocking.

 

[LSUY]

About time too. If it was pro-AlQuida chants then they would be banned from Europe in seconds. But supporting the IRA is deemed acceptable.

:roll: Surely you've realised that before now? As a lot of the Irish Americans in places like New York and Rhode Island (who have never been to Ireland or could locate it on a map) have pointed out:

The IRA aren't terrorists, they are freedom fighters fighting against the evil British Empire that oppress the people of Northern Ireland which is stopping the formation of an independent & united Ireland.

They aren't as bad as we British make out because the IRA at least have the manners give a telephone call warning before blowing up innocent people, which makes all the difference.

Unlike Al Qaeda, they only attack legitimate targets. The nine children killed at Omagh, the three year old killed at the Warrington bomb attack and the Second World War veterans that died at Enniskillen were all perfectly legitimate targets in the IRA's fight for freedom.

The Rangers-Celtic rivalry is one of the worst around. It was either last season or the season before that a girls youth game between the two had to be called off because the abuse from the childrens parents was so much that some of the children started to cry.

On the other hand, Celtic being investigated has lead to some great posts on 606. The best one:

What is wrong with singing pro-IRA songs? Its not illegal to be a member of the IRA.

 

[haxman]

and i've now just read that they have gotten away with it again. Shocking.

Your lot aren't innocent in all this either.

 

[Kevealis]

Your lot aren't innocent in all this either.

Innocent in all what? celtic singing pro-ira songs?

We have a section of our fans who are less than desirable, but we have been fined for it already and you will not find any sectarian song at Ibrox on matchday. We've cut it out. Uefa have, in fact, praised us for our remarkable improvement and say we're an example of how teams can cut out bigoted singing within their support.

The problem is that celtic have been doing the exact same thing for 120years now, and NEVER get picked up on it. For one half of the old firm to be fined and not the other half...well thats just crazy. We're bucked up our ideas, yet they are still allowed to glorify the IRA (is glorifying terrorism not illegal these days?).

 

[Kevealis]

:roll: Surely you've realised that before now? As a lot of the Irish Americans in places like New York and Rhode Island (who have never been to Ireland or could locate it on a map) have pointed out:

The IRA aren't terrorists, they are freedom fighters fighting against the evil British Empire that oppress the people of Northern Ireland which is stopping the formation of an independent & united Ireland.

They aren't as bad as we British make out because the IRA at least have the manners give a telephone call warning before blowing up innocent people, which makes all the difference.

Unlike Al Qaeda, they only attack legitimate targets. The nine children killed at Omagh, the three year old killed at the Warrington bomb attack and the Second World War veterans that died at Enniskillen were all perfectly legitimate targets in the IRA's fight for freedom.

The Rangers-Celtic rivalry is one of the worst around. It was either last season or the season before that a girls youth game between the two had to be called off because the abuse from the childrens parents was so much that some of the children started to cry.

On the other hand, Celtic being investigated has lead to some great posts on 606. The best one:

I really am hoping this is just littered with sarcasm :rofl:

 

[Dougal]

I've had the misfortune of being stuck on a tube with celtic supporters once, I've seen some hairy stuff down the years but I'd say they were the nastiest and most offensive bunch I've had the pleasure of meeting, funnily enough the other crapiest supporters I've come across were rangers fans. Hmmm, I'm seeing a pattern emerging here.

All teams have a few bad apples among them. If Celtic fans were as bad as you made out they wouldn't receive such a great welcome and leave such a great impression wherever they go. Wasn't it something like a reported 70,000 that made the trip to Seville and not one arrest? UEFA even gave them an award.

 

[Kevealis]

All teams have a few bad apples among them. If Celtic fans were as bad as you made out they wouldn't receive such a great welcome and leave such a great impression wherever they go. Wasn't it something like a reported 70,000 that made the trip to Seville and not one arrest? UEFA even gave them an award.

Dont believe the figures about Seville! They range from 50,000 to 150,000 to 6.4billion! All depends who you ask :rofl:

Seriously though, yeah they behaved in Seville and do tend to behave wherever they go. But they still sing the same songs. For whatever reason, they never get punished.

 

[Dougal]

Dont believe the figures about Seville! They range from 50,000 to 150,000 to 6.4billion! All depends who you ask :rofl:

Seriously though, yeah they behaved in Seville and do tend to behave wherever they go. But they still sing the same songs. For whatever reason, they never get punished.

Well like I said in my first post, that is down to the authorities to crack down on. We all know it goes on and politics and religion should have no place in sport. I consider myself a Spurs, Celtic and Irish man but if I couldn't sit down and have a beer with a Gooner, Rangers or English man straight after a game I'd think there was something severely amiss.

 

[llamafarmer]

But they still sing the same songs. For whatever reason, they never get punished.

It's probably to do with the easiness of having these songs understood and the quest of finding other evidence. :up:

 

[haxman]

Innocent in all what? celtic singing pro-ira songs?

We have a section of our fans who are less than desirable, but we have been fined for it already and you will not find any sectarian song at Ibrox on matchday. We've cut it out. Uefa have, in fact, praised us for our remarkable improvement and say we're an example of how teams can cut out bigoted singing within their support.

The problem is that celtic have been doing the exact same thing for 120years now, and NEVER get picked up on it. For one half of the old firm to be fined and not the other half...well thats just crazy. We're bucked up our ideas, yet they are still allowed to glorify the IRA (is glorifying terrorism not illegal these days?).

Thats not what I meant. What I meant was down the years surely Rangers fans have sang one or two dodgy songs as well? Now as someone who has had no desire to set foot in Ibrox I can't tell if you have cut down on the sectarian chants, if so, thats a good thing and well done, and as Dougal says politics and religion should have no place in sport but unfortunately thats just the way it is.

 

[LSUY]

I really am hoping this is just littered with sarcasm :rofl:

Yeah, it was meant to be sarcastic. Sarcasm is hard to get across on forums without using a smilie.

 

[Kevealis]

Thats not what I meant. What I meant was down the years surely Rangers fans have sang one or two dodgy songs as well? Now as someone who has had no desire to set foot in Ibrox I can't tell if you have cut down on the sectarian chants, if so, thats a good thing and well done, and as Dougal says politics and religion should have no place in sport but unfortunately thats just the way it is.

yes we have, and like i said, we've cut it out. You only need to ask UEFA how much we've changed. Sadly, its to the detrement of the atmosphere. Had to cut out our most popular songs

 

[TheChosenOne]

The end of it..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7318430.stm

 

[mkkid]

All teams have a few bad apples among them. If Celtic fans were as bad as you made out they wouldn't receive such a great welcome and leave such a great impression wherever they go. Wasn't it something like a reported 70,000 that made the trip to Seville and not one arrest? UEFA even gave them an award.

What alot of people dont realise about the run to Seville,is that when they played Blackburn,there were the most arrests at Blackburn for football related volience!
At the semi thay had a plane diverted back to cardiff and at Seville they had 70 million fans but the mayor of Seville stated it was 58 thousand.
Celtic As a club and there fans seem to want to form special relationship with every one the play.
Ranger have an attutide,no one likes we dont care.
At Barca this year,Rangers didnt have one arrest and had they largest following of away fans in the Champions league but were accused of destroying the part of the town and littering.
Celtic had 22 arrest at Barca this year,this was not mentioned in the press again.
Celtic have must better PR than Rangers and like it or the the press in Scotland is Anti-Rangers.
The reason Rangers were fined 20 thousand euros at Villlareal was lead by G Spiers the Scotish sport correspendence for the times newspaper .Uefa found them not guilty and then because of an uproar in the Scottish press they looked into it again and they were guilty.
Minty wasnt prepared to stand up for his fans,yet again.
Both sets of fans sing songs, glorifing Terrorism.
I was at Ibrox on Saturday and i can assure both sets of fans were belting out there songs on the Subway and outside the ground.
Politics\sectarism make this, one a the greatest derbies in the world.If you have a chance of getting a ticket,id recommend it!

 

[N10toN17]

All teams have a few bad apples among them. If Celtic fans were as bad as you made out they wouldn't receive such a great welcome and leave such a great impression wherever they go. Wasn't it something like a reported 70,000 that made the trip to Seville and not one arrest? UEFA even gave them an award.

I know dougal we've got a few of our own and as I said I've been in some fairly dodgy situations but I can only go on personal experiences and my personal experience has celtic and rangers as the two sides whose fans have been the worst to be near, maybe it's because they were down in London, but that's just giving them an excuse.

I like a good old bit of rivalry and I hate the goons with a passion, but for me celtic and rangers step over the line and go beyond what is reasonable rivalry. I'd never want to go to one of their derbies, I'd take a milan or roman derby any day of the week, yes it'll be vicious but won't have and religious bollox going on.