Underappreciated XI?

[Rout-Ledge]

Companion piece to the worst ever XI...

I'll start the ball rolling:

GK: Sullivan
RB: Corluka
CB: Naybet
CB: Gallas
LB: Lee
RM: Davies
CM: Mendes
CM: Davids
LM: Malbranque
ST: Crouch
ST: Kanoute

 

[punkisback]

Sullivan

Corluka
Bassong
Gallas
Atouba

Davies
Davids
Mendes
Ricketts
Dalmat

Kanoute

 

[Grey Fox]

Daines
Corluka
Phil Beal
Scales
Chris Hughton
Peter Taylor
Krankjar
Alfie Conn
Leonhardson
John Duncan
Chris Armstrong

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Companion piece to the worst ever XI...

I'll start the ball rolling:

GK: Sullivan
RB: Corluka
CB: Naybet
CB: Gallas
LB: Lee
RM: Davies
CM: Mendes
CM: Davids
LM: Malbranque
ST: Crouch
ST: Kanoute

I like nearly all you choices but not sure they qualify as underrated,perhaps under appreciated. Not sure Sullivan was either though.

In terms of what he actually gained us to what he actually cost us I think Gomes would be a better choice as under rated. I think Lloris has probably cost us as many goals with errors as Gomes and he's no better (as good mind you) at the other stuff, just Lloris's mistakes haven't been quite as comedic.

 

[Montasura]

Absolutely loved Kanoute. At another time in a different Spurs squad (like the last few years) he could have torn the league apart. Fantastic player.

 

[jondesouza]

Keller

Corluka
Nethercott
Gardner
Lee

Davies
Samways
Davis
Dumitrescu

Armstrong
Walsh

 

[dimiSpur]

Keller

Corluka
Nethercott
Gardner
Lee

Davies
Samways
Davis
Dumitrescu

Armstrong
Walsh

Keller is the worst GK I've seen play for anyone. And I'm probably overating him in that assessment.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Stuart Nethercott was one of the worst defenders we've ever had as well.

 

[dagraham]

I like nearly all you choices but not sure they qualify as underrated,perhaps under appreciated. Not sure Sullivan was either though.

In terms of what he actually gained us to what he actually cost us I think Gomes would be a better choice as under rated. I think Lloris has probably cost us as many goals with errors as Gomes and he's no better (as good mind you) at the other stuff, just Lloris's mistakes haven't been quite as comedic.

Sorry I can't agree with you there. LLoris may be a bit Grobbellaresque in his style which sometimes costs us, but this style also prevents many goals too. In all the time Lloris has been here I have never been worried that he'll fumble the ball. Gomes was classic butter fingers syndrome.

 

[jondesouza]

Keller is the worst GK I've seen play for anyone. And I'm probably overating him in that assessment.

Ha. I've seen far worse. I always thought Keller was average for us and certainly doesn't deserve the reputation he's got amongst Spurs fans. I'll always remember his clean sheet against Brazil when playing for the States. I think it was Romario that said it was the best performance he'd ever seen from a keeper.

 

[Bobbins]

I like nearly all you choices but not sure they qualify as underrated,perhaps under appreciated. Not sure Sullivan was either though.

In terms of what he actually gained us to what he actually cost us I think Gomes would be a better choice as under rated. I think Lloris has probably cost us as many goals with errors as Gomes and he's no better (as good mind you) at the other stuff, just Lloris's mistakes haven't been quite as comedic.

Agree with all of that until the last bit - Lloris is light years ahead of Gomes at every level. Gomes had a great period of pulling off some fantastic saves, but Hugo's overall play is far better and his saves just as good. Also, Hugo's mistakes have been there, for sure, but in nothing like the same quantity or impact as Gomes. Before he got perma-dropped Gomes was making a goal-costing mistake in almost every game.

 

[jondesouza]

Stuart Nethercott was one of the worst defenders we've ever had as well.

Can't agree with that. He wasn't a world beater but far from the worst centre back to play in a Spurs shirt. I think people just remember the 4-1 semi-final defeat against Everton when he was overpowered by Amokachi. I'm not saying he should have been a stalwart or anything like that but he doesn't deserve the hate he does get.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Sorry I can't agree with you there. LLoris may be a bit Grobbellaresque in his style which sometimes costs us, but this style also prevents many goals too. In all the time Lloris has been here I have never been worried that he'll fumble the ball. Gomes was classic butter fingers syndrome.

But Gomes's pro-active style prevented many goals too. We became so much less vulnerable at set pieces because of him. Like I said, his faux pas were generally of a more comedic nature but Lloris has some real fuck-ups in his armoury. But take their mistakes out and both are excellent shot stoppers and 1v1'ers.

I wouldn't swap Lloris for Gomes but I was never as worried by Gomes as some and believe he saved us way more than he cost us.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I like nearly all you choices but not sure they qualify as underrated,perhaps under appreciated. Not sure Sullivan was either though.

In terms of what he actually gained us to what he actually cost us I think Gomes would be a better choice as under rated. I think Lloris has probably cost us as many goals with errors as Gomes and he's no better (as good mind you) at the other stuff, just Lloris's mistakes haven't been quite as comedic.

Agree. Title changed accordingly.

Disagree about Lloris/Gomes though...

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Agree with all of that until the last bit - Lloris is light years ahead of Gomes at every level. Gomes had a great period of pulling off some fantastic saves, but Hugo's overall play is far better and his saves just as good. Also, Hugo's mistakes have been there, for sure, but in nothing like the same quantity or impact as Gomes. Before he got perma-dropped Gomes was making a goal-costing mistake in almost every game.

If I was a defender, I know who I'd rather have behind me...and it ain't no octopus.

 

[dagraham]

But Gomes's pro-active style prevented many goals too. We became so much less vulnerable at set pieces because of him. Like I said, his faux pas were generally of a more comedic nature but Lloris has some real fuck-ups in his armoury. But take their mistakes out and both are excellent shot stoppers and 1v1'ers.

I wouldn't swap Gomes for Lloris but I was never as worried by Gomes as some and believe he saved us way more than he cost us.

Yes I agree both keepers have got an element of rush goalie about them. Sometimes it saves us and sometimes it costs us. Difference for me is if Gomes came out and it didn't cost us a goal, he'd throw it in our net just to make sure.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Agree. Title changed accordingly.

Disagree about Lloris/Gomes though...

Jenas should surely be in there as captain then, maybe instead of Davids. Jol was the only idiot who didn't appreciate him enough.

 

[dagraham]

Jenas should surely be in there as captain then, maybe instead of Davids. Jol was the only idiot who didn't appreciate him enough.

Agree. This will probably earn me loads of neg reps but Jenas had more talent than a lot of our current midfielders. His problems were all in his head. Lacked the focus to deliver consistent performances and perform against the big teams (except the gooners, where he always scored for some reason).

 

[jondesouza]

Agree. This will probably earn me loads of neg reps but Jenas had more talent than a lot of our current midfielders. his probelms were all in his head. Lacked the focus to deliver consistent performances and perform against the big teams (except the gooners, where he always scored fro some reason).

It's not only that but he also kept being asked to perform midfield roles that didn't suit him. It's no accident that his best periods for us came when he played alongside Carrick and Palacios, both of whom would sit in front of the back four.

 

[idontgetit]

Always thought Huddlestone was under-rated on this site. If he hadn't got injured at the end of that Champions League season he could really have been special for us.